[Pro] Mobile redirect question

I have a mobile redirect. On the mobile version there is an option to go to the desktop version. For this to work I had to make a second desktop home page without the mobile redirect, reason obvious.

But is this a good way of doing it? For example, what does the Google bot think, with 2 more or less identical home pages? What about SEO confusion? Any other and better solution?

Any comments one way or the other would be great.


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This is probably one of the only cases where a landing page is a good idea - where the mobile redirect is applied.

Then the ‘Home’ page can be your normal content page.

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What method are you using to do the initial redirect?

Walter

On Apr 11, 2014, at 12:01 PM, Jon wrote:

I have a mobile redirect. On the mobile version there is an option to go to the desktop version. For this to work I had to make a second desktop home page without the mobile redirect, reason obvious.

But is this a good way of doing it? For example, what does the Google bot think, with 2 more or less identical home pages? What about SEO confusion? Any other and better solution?

Any comments one way or the other would be great.


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Hello you two, and thank you for a very quick response. I’m astounded.

“Landing page”, is that what I described? Meaning, I am doing it somewhat correctly?

I’m using the Mobile Redirect Action directed to a subdomain “mobile.mydomain.com”.

Further thoughts?


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“Landing page”, is that what I described?

OK - for Landing page read Splash Page ie a meaningless page that has no SEO value that just welcomes you to a site and has a single link to the rest of the site.

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A splash page as you describe it I think will not do the job? People expect to come to the home page with all links functioning to the rest of the site.

However, another matter is if they click from another page to get to the home page… But I suppose then they would have to start all over again.


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People expect to come to the home page with all links functioning to the rest of the site.

That is why a Splash Page is normally a meaningless page. But if you want to use the mobile redirect and not get into a redirect loop then that is the page you want to apply it to without duplicating content.

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Then you’re probably going to have to use something other than the Action to do your redirect, so you can add a user-choice option to things. If someone comes back to your full-fat page from the mobile page, you know they mean to see it, or if they have a querystring variable like ?full_site=true added to the link, then you really know for sure. And then you set a session cookie on their browser so they don’t have to go through this on every page in your site. (You do have an equal-and-opposite mobile page for every regular page in your site, don’t you? You don’t just redirect from the home page, but from every page, right?)

I don’t have anything I can copy and paste to you right now, but if you’re looking at this on the Web site, please search on the term cookiejar and see what comes up. I have written about this problem before.

Walter

On Apr 11, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Jon wrote:

A splash page as you describe it I think will not do the job? People expect to come to the home page with all links functioning to the rest of the site.

However, another matter is if they click from another page to get to the home page… But I suppose then they would have to start all over again.


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Now I get it: A page that is not pretending to be the home page, but one that just says “Come inside to the desktop version”.

And this page I can ask not to be indexed.

Thank you, David.


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Walter, your post just came up. I need to study that later and have a closer look at it.

Thank you very much.


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A page that is not pretending to be the home page, but one that just says “Come inside to the desktop version”.

Yes - thats it.

As I say meaningless SEO wise…

However you should probably consider the more serious approach that Walter offers. I suppose it really depends on your future plans for the site.

Are you considering going Responsive long term?

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Walter, I just have the redirect on the home page. This is where 99% of the people go to first, but I suppose I can put it on the master page and amend each one. We’re only talking about 9 pages all together. Your solution could be a little too complicated for me, but I will give it a try after doing some research. Could be fun.

David, going responsive probably means doing most of the site from the start again, which I am not prepared to do.


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Here. I just found this using the search system at FreewayTalk:

http://freewaytalk.net/thread/view/115476#m_115486

This should suit your 9-page site pretty well, as it avoids the whole splash page or home page thing entirely. You would apply this script to the desktop pages ONLY. Then put a “view desktop site” link on the mobile pages, so someone could change their mind it they wanted to.

The point of this (and you’re perfectly suited to follow this course, since your site is small and you are using a mobile subdomain, not putting all your pages in one folder as the OP on that original thread was doing) is that you make an exact duplicate of your desktop site for your mobile users, and redirect from one to the other 1:1, avoiding this whole problem: xkcd: Server Attention Span

Walter

On Apr 12, 2014, at 5:11 AM, Jon wrote:

Walter, I just have the redirect on the home page. This is where 99% of the people go to first, but I suppose I can put it on the master page and amend each one. We’re only talking about 9 pages all together. Your solution could be a little too complicated for me, but I will give it a try after doing some research. Could be fun.

David, going responsive probably means doing most of the site from the start again, which I am not prepared to do.


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now that a solution is found (or pretty near), may I ask you why a “mobile-user” needs to see the desktop-version of a page he already saw?

We had tons of discussions about “redirect” and “responsive”. One thing I always (try to) clarify is, that both methods require a huge amount of work - starting by strategy (conceptional). And I think ALL desktop pages need a mobile partner (redirect spoken) - not only one.

The “redirect” is the visual controlled version of creating a “perfectly fit into mobile’s world”. You can decide, what script parts (hover effects e.g.) could be removed (redundant) and therefor THE Freeway method (literally).

The “responsive” one is the WYETSL (What you expect to see later) route. Agreed - you only need one set of pages but re-arranging floats, widths, padding, margin or even visibility requires a good amount of imagination and knowledge per se. Construction (inflow) first … which is usually the first and biggest hurdle if it comes to “review” older projects.

As I said: Mobile optimizing IS work - independent of what route you go.

Cheers

Thomas


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In the case of a site which is a truly separate “mobile only” view, the visitor may suspect (and could be right) that the mobile site is missing things that the desktop site includes. These may have been left off out of kindness – multi-megabyte image carousels and 3G wireless rarely get along, for example – but they may just be tracking separately because they are two different sites, and the mobile may not have been updated on the same schedule as the desktop.

This pattern is something I have seen on lots of different sites. If you have a really amazing iPhone 5s, and you can handle a grown-up site, you don’t want to see the same thing that gets presented to the Android 1.2 crowd (barely one one step above the bad old days of flip-phone-optimized sites).

Walter

On Apr 14, 2014, at 4:33 AM, Thomas Kimmich wrote:

now that a solution is found (or pretty near), may I ask you why a “mobile-user” needs to see the desktop-version of a page he already saw?


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Hmm - yeah, agreed, maybe.

In Germany (perhaps in other countries as well) there is a real bummer on mobile/desktop relationship which should be read like:

If you call a store (for watches e.g.) on desktop, the pricing for (some) watches is 299€ but if you call this store on its mobile-version, pricing is 349€. Founded out by random sample on 10 Online-Shop systems in Germany.

Honestly - sitting with my mobile somewhere surfing the internet, I only want to have “the most important” things but rarely the full featured heavy-weighted 5 minutes to wait version. If I want to know more? I’ll investigate this later at home - but that’s me.

Cheers

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