[Pro] Page height-best practice?

What’s the best way to handle pages that expand vertically?

For example, say I have a Master Page that’s 960 x 800, but during the design process several of my pages based on that master need to be taller than 800 pixels.

Should I create a new master page to accommodate the taller height, or simply expand the site page. Or would a flexible page wrapper work better, and if so, where should I place the flexible page wrapper, in the master page or in the site page?

Also, how does all of this factor into master page heights?

Just trying to get a better idea for how I should be designing my sites to take full advantage of the power of master pages.


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Do you talk about NOC (Nested Objects Construction) aka BMC (BoxModel Construction)?

So if - the canvas size in Freeway doesn’t matter anymore, cause the height of your page (in Browser) is the sum of the heights of each sections (in Freeway). So set the height of canvas as you like.

I still can’t speak about Master/Child relations cause I do not really use Master pages.

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Except for mobile devices in my experience. You may have a nice page with footer at the bottom in your browser, but on a mobile the height of the screen doesn’t allow for footers at the bottom, unless your content goes beyond the device screen height.


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So, what’s the consensus on this? My issue has more to do with flexible inline boxes. Should I worry about the boxes falling off the bottom of the page?


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No the inline boxes will push on regardless of your document settings.


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Again, the “page” you see in Freeway Pro is not real. It is a canvas that
only means anything in the application. Make it as long as you need,
different each page. It will have no effect on how long the browser window
is. End Of Story.


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On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 9:04 AM, RavenManiac email@hidden wrote:

So, what’s the consensus on this? My issue has more to do with flexible
inline boxes. Should I worry about the boxes falling off the bottom of the
page?


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Okay, will do. But what about the page-wrapper. Should that be specified as a pixel size or percentage?


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If you’re building an inline (flexible) layout then it should have no defined height. Not “0” but no height value.

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Okay, will do. But what about the page-wrapper. Should that be specified as a pixel size or percentage?


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You mean click it off so the grab handles turn red?


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if you mean the page div that Freeway starts with in the measurements make sure its set (in FW6 inspector) to minimum height - 100%


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Select the div then go to Menu > Item > Fit Box to Content. There used to be a global setting to set an undefined height for all new divs. Maybe it’s still there, I don’t know. The other way is to delete any height value for an element in the Inspector then Tab out so the field is blank.

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You mean click it off so the grab handles turn red?


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I believe in Pro6, no defined width is achieved through use of “Available”
width setting and no defined height is achieved through “Flexible” heading.
( I know, confusing, huh? )

If you’re talking about the Pro6 “page” setting, then Align:None,
Width:Available, Min-Height:100%


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On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Todd email@hidden wrote:

If you’re building an inline (flexible) layout then it should have no
defined height. Not “0” but no height value.

Todd
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Okay, will do. But what about the page-wrapper. Should that be specified
as a pixel size or percentage?


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Yes it is. And that’s coming from the guy who once tried reading Simulacra and Simulation.

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( I know, confusing, huh? )


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Well, I would have used different terminology - but that reflects my
comfort with actual html/css terms, and my ling-time belief that FWP
labeling should help users to understand what they are really doing instead
of always forcing us to translate the baby-talk. But that’s just me. :slight_smile:


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On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Todd email@hidden wrote:

( I know, confusing, huh? )


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Yeah, I agree. It’s like a terminology tug-of-war.

Todd
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Well, I would have used different terminology - but that reflects my
comfort with actual html/css terms, and my ling-time belief that FWP
labeling should help users to understand what they are really doing instead
of always forcing us to translate the baby-talk. But that’s just me. :slight_smile:


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So, if I want to ensure that the whole page is colored without using the Page > Background > Color option can I use an inline wrapper to do that? If so, how do i set that wrapper?

BTW, I’m using FWP 5.5 for this.


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Basically, I want to be able to change the page background easily via a master page, but I can’t use the page option because I already have a background image.


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I’m not sure why you aren’t setting the Window background. I think the Page
background targets the first div element.

In either case, you can change the instance background from the master, so
what’s the big deal?


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Basically, I want to be able to change the page background easily via a
master page, but I can’t use the page option because I already have a
background image.


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