[Pro] php feedback form non-responsive

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Hello,
I have a php feedback form that I have tried everything to get to work using what I could find in the 'talk category. Let me preface that it did work at one upload sometime yesterday, then I spent considerable time replacing it with the easiform before realizing it was a ‘pay for use’ action.

Now nothing works and I suspect my send and reset buttons are not being seen. I have used both low and upper case for the two in the inspector, flattened the elements of the form (? -uncheck layer in the inspector), made new pages and copied the form to them, forced republished, uploaded numberous time, just downloaded the newest version and uploaded for the umpteenth time, etc.

Should I rebuild the page from scratch - has freeway not rewritten part of the code?

The page is here:

http://www.class-e-ads.com/contact-solutions-email.html

Thanks in advance!

Frank H.

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Can you please make your page code ‘More Readable’

File>Document Setup then choose the Output tab and use the second dropdown.

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I suspect my send and reset buttons are not being seen

How did you create these

An image can be selected and in the Graphic Inspector under the 3rd tab you can ‘check’ the Submit checkbox to make it work as a Submit button.

Is that what you did?

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You also appear to have applied the PHPFF action to just the Mr checkbox.

Remove the action and reapply it as a Page action.

Also if you do NOT want your submitters to choose that they are Mr and Mrs and Ms then make the checkboxes Radio buttons instead.

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Make sure that each radio button is named ‘title’ and then set the
value to ‘Mr’, ‘Mrs’ or ‘Mrs’. You will get only one of them in the
form submission. You set the name and value in the third tab from the
left in the Inspector while the button is selected.

Walter

On Jun 23, 2011, at 8:52 PM, DeltaDave wrote:

You also appear to have applied the PHPFF action to just the Mr
checkbox.

Remove the action and reapply it as a Page action.

Also if you do NOT want your submitters to choose that they are Mr
and Mrs and Ms then make the checkboxes Radio buttons instead.

David

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For a start your form is not constructed as a form of your type should
be, wrong elements for purposes such as check boxes where radio
buttons would be used and text areas where text fields would be used.

There is a simple tutorial and an in depth tutorial for the easiForm
actions available at the http://easibase.com web site. At the moment
your example seems to the Feedback Form action, even if you want to
use this action
the in depth pdf at the easibase web site will show you how you should
use the various form element options, you just need to ignore the
stuff specific to applying the actions.

HTH

On Jun 24, 2011, at 1:48 AM, Frank H wrote:

Hello,
I have a php feedback form that I have tried everything to get to
work using what I could find in the 'talk category. Let me preface
that it did work at one upload sometime yesterday, then I spent
considerable time replacing it with the easiform before realizing it
was a ‘pay for use’ action.

Now nothing works and I suspect my send and reset buttons are not
being seen. I have used both low and upper case for the two in the
inspector, flattened the elements of the form (? -uncheck layer in
the inspector), made new pages and copied the form to them, forced
republished, uploaded numberous time, just downloaded the newest
version and uploaded for the umpteenth time, etc.

Should I rebuild the page from scratch - has freeway not rewritten
part of the code?

The page is here:

http://www.class-e-ads.com/contact-solutions-email.html

Thanks in advance!

Frank H.

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David, Walter,

Thanks for your responses. I did find the PHPff applied to the check box before I got these replies - embarrassing. I knew I should have given it a break… Thanks so much to all who replied.

I was also going to ask about the salutation option - thanks again there! And for the specifics, Walter.

I am under the impression ‘more efficient’ is preferred for publishing (-or not?), when asking for assistance is ‘more readable’ desired (as I wont be trying to decipher much code anytime soon : )

Final question here, when would phpff be applied as an item?

I save many of these emails for searching offline - and often find things that I forgot reading in the hundreds of posts - back button java tonight, then go to the forum. Your words are not wasted!

Again, many thanks.

Frank H.

On 24 Jun 2011, 12:26 am, DeltaDave wrote:

Can you please make your page code ‘More Readable’

File>Document Setup then choose the Output tab and use the second dropdown.

David

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Mike,

Thanks for your reply.

Other issues addressed (thanks to you as well) will using the text areas where fields should have been interfere with the form? I like the way the boarders look, but will try Form Elements CSS as close second if I must correct the area to fields- as long as FECSS is ok with the form.

If I had a complaint with the easiform it would have been that purchase was not explicit, but that appears to have been my fatigue (or blindness) depending on your perspective. Sorry.

The time it took me to assemble easiform would largely be due to the fact I am fairly slow yet and tend to tweek things while assembling. As I am so new to this, I am going to try to rough things out to trial quicker. That is kind of an indirect lesson to me from this ‘exercise’.

Thanks again for your help.

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Dave,
Yes, that is the way both png images are set, one ‘reset’ and the other ‘send’. Now they both seem to work as sends.
Appreciate your help!

http://www.class-e-ads.com/contact-solutions-email.html

by the way, would there be a problem with the form in a spawn new window (perfered for the look) or text to new window?

Frank H.

On 24 Jun 2011, 12:34 am, DeltaDave wrote:

I suspect my send and reset buttons are not being seen

How did you create these

An image can be selected and in the Graphic Inspector under the 3rd tab you can ‘check’ the Submit checkbox to make it work as a Submit button.

Is that what you did?

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On Jun 24, 2011, at 5:59 AM, Frank H wrote:

I am under the impression ‘more efficient’ is preferred for
publishing (-or not?), when asking for assistance is ‘more readable’
desired (as I wont be trying to decipher much code anytime soon : )

More Efficient takes advantage of the fact that computers don’t
actually read the way we do. By stripping out most of the “white
space” that we humans use to make our reading more pleasant and less
confrontational, it lets the computer just wail away down two or three
very long lines of text rather than 30 or 40. This used to be a good
improvement, but nowadays, with processor speeds and network speeds
being what they are, it mostly amounts to a very minor rounding error
in difference between with and without it. I never use it at all.

Final question here, when would phpff be applied as an item?

One of the best things about Freeway is its deep and rich clipboard.
Seriously. Once you style up a collection of elements on one page, you
can copy and paste it into another page (or site) and use it again
with few or no changes.

So imagine this: draw a table on your page with the table tool, 2
columns wide by 6 rows. Use the left column for the field labels, and
the right column for the fields of your contact form. Now click once
on the table element, and apply the PHPFF to it. Make all the settings
you need to in that Action dialog. Test it out on your server (sure,
it just works). Now back in Freeway, click once on the edge of the
table so it’s highlighted (corner handles showing) and Copy. Move to
another document, in another site and domain. Paste. Upload, and the
form works. (I’ve left out a couple of steps – making the error and
success pages – for dramatic effect here; but you get the idea.)
Everything about the Action (and the Action itself) was carried along
in the clipboard.

Walter

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Look on the ActionsForge for the Image Reset Action. There is no way
to really reset a form using a normal image button – they always
default to behave like a submit – as you’ve seen. The Action writes a
little blodge of JavaScript into a normal image tag to simulate the
result you’re after.

Walter

On Jun 24, 2011, at 7:00 AM, Frank H wrote:

Dave,
Yes, that is the way both png images are set, one ‘reset’ and the
other ‘send’. Now they both seem to work as sends.
Appreciate your help!

http://www.class-e-ads.com/contact-solutions-email.html

by the way, would there be a problem with the form in a spawn new
window (perfered for the look) or text to new window?

Frank H.

On 24 Jun 2011, 12:34 am, DeltaDave wrote:

I suspect my send and reset buttons are not being seen

How did you create these

An image can be selected and in the Graphic Inspector under the 3rd
tab you can ‘check’ the Submit checkbox to make it work as a Submit
button.

Is that what you did?

D

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On Jun 24, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Frank H wrote:

Mike,

Thanks for your reply.

Other issues addressed (thanks to you as well) will using the text
areas where fields should have been interfere with the form? I like
the way the boarders look, but will try Form Elements CSS as close
second if I must correct the area to fields- as long as FECSS is ok
with the form.

Text areas do no behave as text fields, if you are asking for the user
to provide one line of text then it would make sence to use a form
element that provides one line of text.

Styling the form fields generally should give you what you want, but I
am not sure what you mean by the border being different on a text area
than a text field!

If I had a complaint with the easiform it would have been that
purchase was not explicit, but that appears to have been my fatigue
(or blindness) depending on your perspective. Sorry.

It is on the easibase web site and on the info at actions forge, in
fact anywhere you can download the actions from.

The time it took me to assemble easiform would largely be due to the
fact I am fairly slow yet and tend to tweek things while
assembling. As I am so new to this, I am going to try to rough
things out to trial quicker. That is kind of an indirect lesson to
me from this ‘exercise’.

It is actually very easy to use the actions, even for first timers…
if they follow the tutorial :slight_smile: but the first time generally needs a
little more time, there is even an easiForm example on the web site
you can download for a basic contact form that will run in FW pro 4 or
above.

Doesn’t matter what any one attempts, generally if you take some more
time to follow a tutorial or read how to do something it generally
saves a lot more than that time lost at the end of the day! doesn’t
matter if it is a MFI unit or a car manual or an action. I find that *
most * people who contact me because thay have an issue is because
they have not read what is written. I know it seems inviting just to
plod on in after reading the first sentance, * I used to do that also

  • but then I discovered after a while that I could save the time I
    lost simply by taking more time reading a bit at the start… although
    it does still seem tempting :slight_smile:

It would help to download the easiForm PDF file just to try and
understand the form elements a bit, even if you are using another
action. The first part of the PDF tutorial covers the basics of the
form elements before adding the easiForm actions, same principal goes
for all forms what ever of the teo form actions you use.

Good luck.

Thanks again for your help.

Frank H.

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when asking for assistance is ‘more readable’ desired

Yes - definitely.

The super dooper coders here like Walter can probably skim through ‘more efficient’ code quite easily but for us less gifted - ‘more readable’ is exactly that! And likely to get a quicker answer.

And I am assuming that your form is now working as expected?

As a side note - as Walter has suggested - you really should construct your form in a table structure. Example here: http://www.deltadesign.co/formtest.html or have a look at Tims page on the PHPFF action FreewayActions.com | PHP feedback form

If you do this then you will avoid the problem you have currently at http://www.class-e-ads.com/contact-solutions-email.html
where your text boxes are overlapping at anything other than small font sizes.

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would there be a problem with the form in a spawn new window (perfered for the look) or text to new window?

Yes - potentially. You would probably find that your error/success page would then open in the spawned window or in a new window. Leaving the visitor with another window to close.

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Dave,

One sure can get lost in these here parts.

Tim’s page is actually where I started with this, but then there was this beautiful chorus of voices, the like I have never heard before…

Thanks again.
Frank H.

On 24 Jun 2011, 5:15 pm, DeltaDave wrote:

when asking for assistance is ‘more readable’ desired

Yes - definitely.

As a side note - as Walter has suggested - you really should construct your form in a table structure. Example here: http://www.deltadesign.co/formtest.html or have a look at Tims page on the PHPFF action FreewayActions.com | PHP feedback form

If you do this then you will avoid the problem you have currently at http://www.class-e-ads.com/contact-solutions-email.html
where your text boxes are overlapping at anything other than small font sizes.

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Thank you Walter - I think I am getting the gist of this.

Frank H.

…when would php feedback form be applied as an item?
with few or no changes.

So imagine this: draw a table on your page with the table tool, 2
columns wide by 6 rows. Use the left column for the field labels, and
the right column for the fields of your contact form. Now click once
on the table element, and apply the PHPFF to it. Make all the settings
you need to in that Action dialog. Test it out on your server (sure,
it just works). Now back in Freeway, click once on the edge of the
table so it’s highlighted (corner handles showing) and Copy. Move to
another document, in another site and domain. Paste. Upload, and the
form works. (I’ve left out a couple of steps – making the error and
success pages – for dramatic effect here; but you get the idea.)
Everything about the Action (and the Action itself) was carried along
in the clipboard.

Walter

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Mike,

Will do!

Thanks

Frank H.

It would help to download the easiForm PDF file just to try and
understand the form elements a bit, even if you are using another
action. The first part of the PDF tutorial covers the basics of the
form elements before adding the easiForm actions, same principal goes
for all forms what ever of the teo form actions you use.

Good luck.

Thanks again for your help.

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Hello all.

Ok! I have redone my email form page and posted it. The only problem I have at the moment is that the invalide email part of the action does not halt send or redirect. I have four separate pages-one for each error (thou I understand only the invalid email). I have used the validate action successfully, but thought this might be a larger problem/oversight of mine, and would like to see how it looks.

The error pages are exactly named for the error with the www.class-e-ads.com in front: Class-e-Ads | Invalide eMail Address

I have taken all other actions off and reapplied, had phpff on both the page and now the table containing the form.

Thanks for any and all help!

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I should have said I applied and tried validate, then removed it…

I have used the validate action successfully,…

And Should have phrased more like so -

I have taken all other actions off and reapplied to the page and then/now to the table containing the form.

Thanks for any and all help!

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Hello, and OH! Whoops,

I forgot to change all the pages to more readable. I have done that and re-uploaded.

Currently, the form is in php fastform with pages assigned to all errors, and the action is applied to the table containing the form.

All other form related action have been removed from the page and table/form. (validate, validate extra, formfix) Form element styler is applied to the text fields and areas.

When a form is deliberately sent without a email address and/or name, the send is still completed.

All other obvious functions of the form appear OK.

The page name is:

http://www.class-e-ads.com/contact-solutions-email.html

The error page name is:
http://www.class-e-ads.com/class-e-adsinval.html

Webfast is applied to the page.

Thanks in advance for any and all help. I would like to apply one or the other solution soon.

Frank

On 29 Jun 2011, 6:22 am, Frank H wrote:

I should have said I applied and tried validate, then removed it…

I have used the validate action successfully,…

And Should have phrased more like so -

I have taken all other actions off and reapplied

On 29 Jun 2011, 6:08 am, Frank H wrote:

Hello all.

Ok! I have redone my email form page and posted it. The only problem I have at the moment is that the invalide email part of the action does not halt send or redirect. I have four separate pages-one for each error (thou I understand only the invalid email). I have used the validate action successfully, but thought this might be a larger problem/oversight of mine, and would like to see how it looks.

The error pages are exactly named for the error with the www.class-e-ads.com in front:

Class-e-Ads | Invalide eMail Address

I have taken all other actions off and reapplied, had phpff on both the page and now the table containing the form.

Thanks for any and all help!

Frank

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