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Hello all, ye gods! I hope someone can help here.

I’m preparing a site in FW 5.5 - bought last weekend and truly excellent! The site is on a MS 2008 server, with MS Exchange 2006.

I’ve a total of six forms on six pages of this site, and want to use Tim Plumb’s action. However, I read it requires SendMail. Is there anyway it can be configured to use MS Exchange 2006, please?

Also, having spent this afternoon reading all the Forms To Go posts on here, has anyone resolved the seeming conflict between FTG and Freeway 5.5?

I think my life may hang on this.


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Sorry folks, I’ve just found out on here MS server won’t work with the action. But what about FTG and FW 5.5 please?


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Why are you using a MS server at all?

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Dave, it’s a family thing. My stepson has a dedicated server and I’m obliged to use it.

Gotta say, from what little I know, it’s crepe!

Terry


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The FW tutorial on FTG, does this relate to an earlier version of FW, please?


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Does your server shaped object support PHP? It’s a server-level
configuration problem, well out of the realm of FTG or PHP Feedback
Form, to have PHP be able to send mail. If the server administrator
has configured PHP correctly on the server, then FTG will work and so
will PHP FF. The PHP command mail() wraps around whatever mail
service you have – sendmail, SMTP of some other flavor, etc. But
getting that to work on Windows using whatever passes for SMTP on that
environment is a challenge for the server admin, not you.

Walter

On Dec 5, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Terry wrote:

The FW tutorial on FTG, does this relate to an earlier version of
FW, please?


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Walt, my sincere thanks. You’re always to my rescue!

I can’t contact stepson this evening - family protocols etc - but will copy your reply to him and phone tomorrow.

I will follow up with post re: progress for other users information.

Walt, thank you. Your help is deeply appreciated here.

Terry


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As an alternative you could host the form pages on another server - but if you do that you might as well move the whole site!

I appreciate family issues can muddy the waters but at the end of the day you have to do what is best for the site owner. Who is the site owner - more family?

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Dave, the site owner is a Local Authority.


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OK - so we can safely assume that they are not going to be moving servers (or want to host some pages elsewhere) in a hurry.

As Walter has already said there is no reason why a properly configured MS server cannot support PHP.

The alternative is to use an ASP (or similar) script. Does FTG not do them? Sorry I have no clue what scripting types a vanilla MS Server supports.

What issues have you read about FTG and FW that concern you?

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I’ve been in contact with my stepson- he’s a good man; we’re in partnership in developing some software. I sent him Walt’s post and he came back immediately and said the server wasn’t configured correctly, and he’s on it now.

My only concerns with FTG and FW are what I read on FreewayTalk yesterday, chiefly when FW went to 5 and FTG didn’t respond. Having contacted server owner I think it will now be OK.

Will report back so others may read the account.

Terry


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Tim’s PHPFF action is great and will work fine on industry standard servers.

Unfortunately there are some hosting companies out there that have quirky set ups that trip things up. You know who you are so I am not going to name you!

Tim has responded to this by building in options for these types of server but he can only do so much.

So the simple answer is that it just works unless the server is ‘broken’.

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Just heard back. There is an issue with the dedicated server. A support ticket has been raised.

Dave, it just occurs to me to say, of all the people posting here who have had problems with PHP forms, I wonder how many were down to a server issue and not their own software?

I’ll report back as the issue develops.

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of all the people posting here who have had problems with PHP forms, I wonder how many were down to a server issue and not their own software

Very often it is a server problem OR down to the user not naming fields correctly to get the ‘extra’ features working right.

Rarely is it a software issue.

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Dave, that I can believe!


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Well, the support ticket was answered last night, and the problem is now clear. It was indeed a server issue beyond my step son, and down to the hosting company.

FTG 's PHP is doing exactly as programmed.

I’ve got five more forms to set up now.

Dave and Walt, my thanks for your help.

I’d like to think, as I get more experienced with FW5 I may be able to offer a little help on here too!

Terry


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Personally I find the PHPFF Action easier to implement and all in FW - but FTG does offer some nice features.

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This means that PHP FF would also, as they use very similar code.

Walter

On Dec 7, 2010, at 6:11 AM, Terry wrote:

FTG 's PHP is doing exactly as programmed.


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Walt, please do forgive me, this is my first excursion into PHP.

Tim Plumb’s action requires SendMail, and on the server I’m using there’s only PHP Mail.


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Tim’s Action uses the PHP mail() command, which on a normal (which is
to say Unix or Linux) Web server wraps around the Unix daemon
(friendly demon) sendmail or the local equivalent.

On a Windows Web server (a contradiction in terms – make no mistake)
you will rely on your system manager having properly configured PHP
when it was installed such that it wrapped around the local or remote
SMTP server instead.

If this was properly done, then the PHP mail() function abstracts this
whole end of things away from you – there is no functional difference
between sending a message through mail() on either platform.

But since this is so highly reliant on a party who, through their
choice of server platform, has demonstrated a basic unwillingness to
do things that are arguably harder than clicking some checkboxes in a
dialog box – even though those harder things are technically
unassailably Correct with a capital C – you may have found the
weakest link here.

You will most likely find yourself unable to send mail through PHP
using the mail() command on this server under any circumstances.

Walter

On Dec 7, 2010, at 8:59 AM, Terry wrote:

Walt, please do forgive me, this is my first excursion into PHP.

Tim Plumb’s action requires SendMail, and on the server I’m using
there’s only PHP Mail.


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