[Pro] Problems with new site build.

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I have just completed the first draft of a site I have been asked to build.
www.englishtreecompany.co.uk
I want the client to view it and complete the content where needed.
Two problems I have are as follows-

  1. the site opens up on the ‘tips & advice’ page, not the home page?
  2. To get the client to view this I have had to make the site live so it is now visible to google and the world which we don’t want, how can we let the client see the site and nobody else?
    Regards
    Stevee

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Put it in a subdirectory on your hosting site. As long as there are no links into that directory no one will know it is there except whoever tell about it.

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Thanks for your prompt attention.

Please can you suffer my ignorance but what you are saying I’m sure is the solution I seek but my knowledge of this is very little and I don’t know how to do what you are suggesting?
Regards
Steve

On 27 Jul 2010, at 17:13, chuckamuck wrote:

Put it in a subdirectory on your hosting site. As long as there are no links into that directory no one will know it is there except whoever tell about it.

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Your start page is called theenglishtreeco.html - rather than index.html

Change that and it will be the first page seen

When I am showing clients a work in progress I use a folder within my own site to host it ie mysite.com/client_folder

So in your own FW doc for your own site create a folder called client_folder but don’t create any pages in it.

Upload and the folder will be created on the server.

Now in the clients FW doc set the upload path as mysite.com/client_folder (where mysite is your website address) and using the username and password of your own site.

Now upload the client files and they will go into the client_folder on your site.

When the client is happy then you can change the upload path back to their own hosting server.

David

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Use Transmit or Cyberduck or another FTP application to log in to your
server. Navigate into the folder where your current site is located,
and use the FTP application to create a new folder. Back in Freeway,
change the Directory preference in the Document Setup dialog to
include that folder, so instead of it appearing as htdocs (for
example) make it htdocs/foldername. Upload, and you’re done.

Walter

On Jul 27, 2010, at 12:34 PM, Steven Hughes wrote:

Thanks for your prompt attention.

Please can you suffer my ignorance but what you are saying I’m sure
is the solution I seek but my knowledge of this is very little and I
don’t know how to do what you are suggesting?
Regards
Steve

On 27 Jul 2010, at 17:13, chuckamuck wrote:

Put it in a subdirectory on your hosting site. As long as there are
no links into that directory no one will know it is there except
whoever tell about it.

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On 27 Jul 2010, 7:48 pm, waltd wrote:

Use Transmit or Cyberduck or another FTP application to log in to your
server. Navigate into the folder where your current site is located,
and use the FTP application to create a new folder. Back in Freeway,
change the Directory preference in the Document Setup dialog to
include that folder, so instead of it appearing as htdocs (for
example) make it htdocs/foldername. Upload, and you’re done.

And in case in you didn’t know already… Bob’s your uncle! :slight_smile:

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Thanks guys!!!

Steve

On 27 Jul 2010, at 20:40, DeltaDave wrote:

Your start page is called theenglishtreeco.html - rather than index.html

Change that and it will be the first page seen

When I am showing clients a work in progress I use a folder within my own site to host it ie mysite.com/client_folder

So in your own FW doc for your own site create a folder called client_folder but don’t create any pages in it.

Upload and the folder will be created on the server.

Now in the clients FW doc set the upload path as mysite.com/client_folder (where mysite is your website address) and using the username and password of your own site.

Now upload the client files and they will go into the client_folder on your site.

When the client is happy then you can change the upload path back to their own hosting server.

David

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Thanks guys!!!

Steve

On 27 Jul 2010, at 20:48, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

Use Transmit or Cyberduck or another FTP application to log in to your server. Navigate into the folder where your current site is located, and use the FTP application to create a new folder. Back in Freeway, change the Directory preference in the Document Setup dialog to include that folder, so instead of it appearing as htdocs (for example) make it htdocs/foldername. Upload, and you’re done.

Walter

On Jul 27, 2010, at 12:34 PM, Steven Hughes wrote:

Thanks for your prompt attention.

Please can you suffer my ignorance but what you are saying I’m sure is the solution I seek but my knowledge of this is very little and I don’t know how to do what you are suggesting?
Regards
Steve

On 27 Jul 2010, at 17:13, chuckamuck wrote:

Put it in a subdirectory on your hosting site. As long as there are no links into that directory no one will know it is there except whoever tell about it.

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Thanks guys!!!

Steve

On 27 Jul 2010, at 21:51, chuckamuck wrote:

On 27 Jul 2010, 7:48 pm, waltd wrote:

Use Transmit or Cyberduck or another FTP application to log in to your
server. Navigate into the folder where your current site is located,
and use the FTP application to create a new folder. Back in Freeway,
change the Directory preference in the Document Setup dialog to
include that folder, so instead of it appearing as htdocs (for
example) make it htdocs/foldername. Upload, and you’re done.

And in case in you didn’t know already… Bob’s your uncle! :slight_smile:

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Hi David,

On the first site I built (www.imagepics.co.uk) I had this problem and named it index and it worked.

On my second site (www.valdipioca.com) I wanted the title which also appears at the top of the browser window to read something other than ‘index’ so i called it something else and this still opens as the homepage.

Why does this not happen on the www.englishtreecompany site as I would like all sites I build to have a nice title in the browser window rather that ‘index’?

regards

Steve

On 27 Jul 2010, at 20:40, DeltaDave wrote:

Your start page is called theenglishtreeco.html - rather than index.html

Change that and it will be the first page seen

When I am showing clients a work in progress I use a folder within my own site to host it ie mysite.com/client_folder

So in your own FW doc for your own site create a folder called client_folder but don’t create any pages in it.

Upload and the folder will be created on the server.

Now in the clients FW doc set the upload path as mysite.com/client_folder (where mysite is your website address) and using the username and password of your own site.

Now upload the client files and they will go into the client_folder on your site.

When the client is happy then you can change the upload path back to their own hosting server.

David

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Changed to index but still not opening on that page, still goes straight to tips on opening?

Regards

Steve
On 27 Jul 2010, at 20:40, DeltaDave wrote:

Your start page is called theenglishtreeco.html - rather than index.html

Change that and it will be the first page seen

When I am showing clients a work in progress I use a folder within my own site to host it ie mysite.com/client_folder

So in your own FW doc for your own site create a folder called client_folder but don’t create any pages in it.

Upload and the folder will be created on the server.

Now in the clients FW doc set the upload path as mysite.com/client_folder (where mysite is your website address) and using the username and password of your own site.

Now upload the client files and they will go into the client_folder on your site.

When the client is happy then you can change the upload path back to their own hosting server.

David

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Your home page is called indexa.html. Should be index.html. No “a” in there.

And page names and page file names can be different. Meaning, your home page file is called index.html, but the page title can be called The English Tree Company.

Click on your pages in the page panel and look at the Page Inspector palette. You will see a box called Title. That’s where you name your page.

Where it says File in the Page Palette is where the file for that page is named. You can change these names, too, though index.html should stay like that.

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Your home page is called indexa.html

If this is happening it is because you already have a page with the file name index.html and you cannot have 2

The Free tips page is probably named index.html so change it to something like tips.html and then rename your ‘home’ page to index.html

David

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Just another small point Steve - you have some sub folders named ‘Gallery section’ and ‘consultancy section’

You should avoid spaces in file/folder names - instead use an underscore ‘Gallery_section’ or a hyphen ‘consultancy-section’ - earlier Windoze browsers can trip over these.

David

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earlier Windoze browsers can trip over these

Actually not exactly true - it appears that it is servers that can have problems with spaces in file names.

I am sure that Walter will share his wisdom on this one and whether or not this is as critical as it once was.

But no matter the actual reasoning behind it - it is a habit to avoid.

D

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You are spot on there but how did you know this?

Steve

On 29 Jul 2010, at 22:39, DeltaDave wrote:

Just another small point Steve - you have some sub folders named ‘Gallery section’ and ‘consultancy section’

You should avoid spaces in file/folder names - instead use an underscore ‘Gallery_section’ or a hyphen ‘consultancy-section’ - earlier Windoze browsers can trip over these.

David

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Thanks again, I had figured it was the ‘a’ but couldn’t find the other ‘index’ page as I was looking at title names not file names, you was spot on with it being the ‘tips’ page.

Steve

On 29 Jul 2010, at 22:18, DeltaDave wrote:

Your home page is called indexa.html

If this is happening it is because you already have a page with the file name index.html and you cannot have 2

The Free tips page is probably named index.html so change it to something like tips.html and then rename your ‘home’ page to index.html

David

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Thanks Rob, all sorted!

Steve

On 29 Jul 2010, at 19:07, Robert B wrote:

Your home page is called indexa.html. Should be index.html. No “a” in there.

And page names and page file names can be different. Meaning, your home page file is called index.html, but the page title can be called The English Tree Company.

Click on your pages in the page panel and look at the Page Inspector palette. You will see a box called Title. That’s where you name your page.

Where it says File in the Page Palette is where the file for that page is named. You can change these names, too, though index.html should stay like that.

Bob

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Thanks for all this guys and now sorted.

One last question whilst i have your attention.

If you look at the emergencies box in firefox, the linked html text has a purple underline and the red blinks.

In safari, there is no underlines and the red text doesn’t blink?

I want no underlines and the red text blinking, I’ve got neither and both in different browsers???

Steve

PS, I’ve I know about the 3 click underline option in the inspector ‘links’ section and the type style underline in style heading and have tested all options.

On 27 Jul 2010, at 20:40, DeltaDave wrote:

Your start page is called theenglishtreeco.html - rather than index.html

Change that and it will be the first page seen

When I am showing clients a work in progress I use a folder within my own site to host it ie mysite.com/client_folder

So in your own FW doc for your own site create a folder called client_folder but don’t create any pages in it.

Upload and the folder will be created on the server.

Now in the clients FW doc set the upload path as mysite.com/client_folder (where mysite is your website address) and using the username and password of your own site.

Now upload the client files and they will go into the client_folder on your site.

When the client is happy then you can change the upload path back to their own hosting server.

David

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I’m not sure why the underline is there. The blink is not a standard tag, so Safari is cheerfully ignoring it. If you want a consistent blinking effect in all browsers, make an animated GIF image of the text in Photoshop or similar, and apply your link to that. Not only will it never have an underline (linked images don’t, by default) but the blink will happen in all browsers without relying on invalid code.

And please mention to your client that the acres of “nearly the same color as the background” spider-bait text on the home page will only bite them in the posterior at some point. These tricks went out of fashion around the same time as the blink tag, because the search engines all figured out how to see them and ignore them. At best, you get low priority for those words. At worst, you get blacklisted and your domain will never appear in any results listing ever.

Walter

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