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I have a question. My site is up and running but I went and made changes but the changes didn’t take effect. Is there something I’m doing wrong or does it take time to take effect? Any help would be appreciated.


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here is a link to my page…as you can tell its kind of hard to make out the “enter our studio”. www.dressmeupandshootme.com

here are the changes I made…which seems to look good when I preview it but I just can’t seem to get it to change when I upload it.

I also have music in the background on the new front page.

the front page seems to be the only page I have issues with when it comes to updating.


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It would be immediate. Did you refresh the web browser and perhaps the cache?

Did you save and then upload?

Those are the obvious things to check. I am new at this too.

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Okay, I still need help but now my website isn’t working…here’s a screenshot…could someone tell me how to get it back up.

not sure if this screenshot will do you any good but I was messing with the index.html and now its all jacked up. I go through host gator.


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On 8 Mar 2009, 8:34 am, ckdontes wrote:

Okay, I still need help but now my website isn’t working…here’s a screenshot…could someone tell me how to get it back up.

not sure if this screenshot will do you any good but I was messing with the index.html and now its all jacked up. I go through host gator.
http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s331/ckdontes/Screenshot_7.png

Dude! That’s one of the problems with Freeway! You can not access and mess with your files in that manner!!! It isn’t like anything else you or I know. It is a weird critter when it comes to the server/folder/files and such. Do not mess with it in your Cpanel/WHM!

About the only thing I have found that you can do with your server side is to store all your images and files there first and then direct Freeway to them. But I have not found a way to do that with the background images.

You might have to start over in Freeway what you did. It writes all the pathways and we are not able to really alter that. Which to me is a huge down fall in the program.

I use HostGator as well and love them!

Hope that helps a little.

Robert


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I think that you have either deleted your index.html page or renamed it because the other pages ie http://www.dressmeupandshootme.com/contactus.html are still there

David


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You also have to watch when you are naming pages ie what’supguys.html

Characters like ’ the apostrophe shouldn’t be used in your page file names as they screw things up on some servers - better to use underscores and hyphens.

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On 8 Mar 2009, at 08:52, Rgator wrote:

About the only thing I have found that you can do with your server
side is to store all your images and files there first and then
direct Freeway to them. But I have not found a way to do that with
the background images.

Robert, I think Walt has already explained that Freeway works in a
much easier way than this. It references any pictures you put in your
site and uploads them to the server itself, including background
images. You don’t need to put them there.

You might have to start over in Freeway what you did. It writes all
the pathways and we are not able to really alter that. Which to me
is a huge down fall in the program.

If I were you, I’d calm down a bit, particularly about SEO
optimisation, read the manual, and get to know the application while
designing your new site. Freeway has no problem that I know of with
SEO optimisation, but then I’ve never wanted to use a thousand-
character title, or put paragraphs of text in the Alt text box. I’m
sure someone else here is about to comment on that :slight_smile:

best wishes,

Paul Bradforth

http://www.paulbradforth.com


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On 8 Mar 2009, 8:52 am, Rgator wrote:

On 8 Mar 2009, 8:34 am, ckdontes wrote:

Okay, I still need help but now my website isn’t working…here’s a screenshot…could someone tell me how to get it back up.

not sure if this screenshot will do you any good but I was messing with the index.html and now its all jacked up. I go through host gator.
http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s331/ckdontes/Screenshot_7.png

Dude! That’s one of the problems with Freeway! You can not access and mess with your files in that manner!!! It isn’t like anything else you or I know. It is a weird critter when it comes to the server/folder/files and such. Do not mess with it in your Cpanel/WHM!

About the only thing I have found that you can do with your server side is to store all your images and files there first and then direct Freeway to them. But I have not found a way to do that with the background images.

You might have to start over in Freeway what you did. It writes all the pathways and we are not able to really alter that. Which to me is a huge down fall in the program.

I use HostGator as well and love them!

Hope that helps a little.

Robert

I would say the problem here is user error, you will find that your server needs the index page to be called index.html along with the options of index.htm and/or index.php if you have PHP, Freeway will auto name the file index.html for the first file in each folder… I don’t see this on the image so maybe you have renamed the first file name that was created in Freeway? The quality of your screenshot is not great but I think you have it called default.html… or maybe your server needs the main index file to be called default.html and you can’t see the site you created because you have not got your index page called default.html so the old one is still on the server.

As DeltaDave mentions, there is a correct naming convention with file names for servers, (a-z)(A-Z)(0-9) along with _ and - is generally as good as you will get. Honestly don’t know how a file ended up with a quote in the name, Freeway won’t let you do this so maybe this has been altered by yourself directly on the server!

There is the option to let Freeway upload your site to the server for you, if you do not understand this side of the process then I suggest you let Freeway handle that side as it will put everything where it supposed to be for your site to work. Even if you do understand this side of things it is still best to leave this in Freeways hands.

Generally all images will be stored in the Resources folder or folders depending on how you have Freeway set up.

HTH


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Are you kidding? The very basics and fundamentals to SEO are prevented by Freeway to being used!!!

Pay attention, I did not say 1000 character title. Only the first 65 of them are counted by the search engines. I do not wish to be rude or condensending but Freeway has huge problem SEO wise! As an SEO specialist, I would have to give Freeway as low a rating a web building program can receive as it stifles SEO, much the same as it stifles the “alt text” for the blind.

I will give an example. And if you like I will look for even deeper ones, but do your research. What I am known for web wise is to be able to put a site on the top of Google and keep it there. It might not look as good as some, but it is sitting on top of yours and everyone else’s. I like it that way!

There are so many factors to the search engines and SEO. Mostly it is many, many minor things all being done that turn into a synergy. But there are some super important and key fundamentals that must be used, or else you are screwed and the competition has won.

In no particular order:

  1. The title. The first 65 characters of the title of your web page, every web page, should be written for Google first and foremost, period.
  2. The body. The body must have good, very descriptive HTML text that is relevant for the search engines to find this particular page. This text needs to be as near the top of the page as possible and not to be interfered with by tables. If you use tables, keep them all under the key SEO text in the body of the page. Your keywords can be obscured by tables!
  3. The URL!!! The search engines will read all of a URL string, no matter how long it is. This is one of the THREE single most important things you can add to your SEO!!! You create as long of a URL string as you can by using as many keywords as you can in the names of the files and folders. Your urls all should be as long as all the key words that you can think of that are relevant for that page. each word separated by a dash.

Many news articles and press releases are found quickly by Google by including the FULL name of the article/press release in the URL. It is key that each word is separated by a dash!

http://snipr.com/ddmci [www_google_com]

I am the director of marketing for SonicMood in my spare time and I write their press releases. Please take note the way Google shows you what it found from this search. Google highlights and makes bold all of the keywords that it found in the title, body and URL.

Now look at my example. The top two hits are there because they have the keywords in the URLs as well as all the other SEO the ones below then have. Since there is a lot of competition for the 1st spot, those spots are awarded to the ones with the most good and complete SEO. By this example, Freeway is immediately put behind all its competition.

SEO must be a key consideration when building a website and there is basically no such consideration on SEO with Freeway.

BTW, the meta tag information in the HEAD of your webpages is not, I repeat, is not used by Google, nor has it been for most all this century!

After big three factors for SEO on any webpage I listed above, there are other things that are important and are used if the webbie knows about it. But some of them can not be done with Freeway either.

Appearently both SEO and the blind were not considered when it came to alt text and Freeway committed what can be considered a criminal act eliminating the blind’s means of seeing images. Plus this is a key SEO factor and like the blind readers, limitless. Until Freeway.

No as a SEO specialist reviewing this product, it would have to receive a flat zero because it can not handle the very basics of SEO. And I am letting my friends who gave this 5 out of five my rating of zero in return. And asking how could they have failed the review and its readers like this?

No, the very way that Freeway builds a website prevents good, fundamental SEO from ever happening. There is no question to that. I think the real question is why would a web building program do such a thing?

As far as the limitation on the alt text, that is nothing more than extremely poor planning and programming. There’s no valid excuse for it. Period. It shall be fixed and I guarantee that. Maybe by next weekend. There shall be an update that will address this.

I had read several times that Freeway is a SEO killer and after using it for a week, I have no doubt that any website made with it is handicapped as far as SEO is concerned. That is a serious problem with the application. Sort of keeps it from being a professional version of anything.

I think the programmers need to rethink some things.

Do the research that I have on this.

Robert


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Paul,

Robert, I think Walt has already explained that Freeway works in a much easier way than this. It references any pictures you put in your site and uploads them to the server itself, including background images. You don’t need to put them there.

I have put all my long named images in a long named folder on my server. I can get “normal” images to link from there. But how is this done with the background images? I click on the page and then the Appearance Button>Image>Select. There is no way to get to the files on the server this way. I would love to use the files on the server and stop Freeway from having to use local files, if it has no means of copying and keeping the images internally and NOT have to upload each and every time.

Thanks for your help,

Robert


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Hi Robert

This should really be on another thread so CKD (the original poster) can read their answer.

But

But how is this done with the background images? I click on the page and then the Appearance Button>Image>Select.

You have answered your own question here.

Once you use Select and locate the background image on your local hard drive then FW takes over and uploads a copy of that background image to the server for you. As simple as that - no hoops to jump through!

David


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Code example from FW page


body { margin:0px; background-color:#fff; background-image:url(Resources/backgroundimage.jpeg); height:100% }

As you will see from this the BG image is referenced from the Resources folder on the server.

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On 8 Mar 2009, at 10:35, Rgator wrote:

Pay attention,

I do not wish to be rude or condensending

Oops, too late.

best wishes,

Paul Bradforth

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Yeah, but what I am saying is ringing pretty true, you gotta admit.


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On 8 Mar 2009, at 10:35, Rgator wrote:

Are you kidding? The very basics and fundamentals to SEO are
prevented by Freeway to being used!!!

I can understand your frustration and also understand the workings of
SEO, even if not being technically proficient. That is why I think you
should seriously consider if it would be to use another application,
rather than slating Freeway. Freeway is designed for a purpose which
it does very well, overall. It allows a designer to get on with the
job of designing and produces clean, valid code for those of us who
are content to just get one or two listings on the first page for each
key instance - and reap plenty of links/enquiries from them. I am not
talking major, target led companies, here.

http://snipr.com/ddmci [www_google_com]

Now look at my example. The top two hits are there because they have
the keywords in the URLs as well as all the other SEO the ones below
then have. Since there is a lot of competition for the 1st spot,
those spots are awarded to the ones with the most good and complete
SEO. By this example, Freeway is immediately put behind all its
competition.

A commendable performance and I truly appreciate what you do, but to
be honest, when I see so many multiple listings, I usually click
quickly to page 2 - I want choice in what I find, unless I am looking
for some very specific company or question answered! And that’s a
psychological factor I haven’t seen in any SEO’s handbook. :wink:

It’s good to push to the limit and your comments, Robert, are all
worthwhile. I am sure they’ve been noted at Softpress, but in the
timeframe you have don’t expect miracles - there’s a long wish list
already there from the rest of us - as I am sure there is for heavier
applications, too.

Colin


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I have never seen an SEO handbook. I do not read books or manuals as I am severely dyslexic. It is all mostly by visuals and quickly gleaning articles on the web. I watch Google a lot as how the SEO works and look at searches differently than most people.

If you think that was bad, as far as the search page being loaded with my stuff, then do a search for the term “rhythmically homogeneous”. Basically I own that term as far as Google sees it.

15 of the first 20 hits are mine. 3 more are related, but not mine.

Should someone ever decide to look up the term, they will learn about SonicMood.

Take the specialty of the “installation and isolation of ceiling mounted surgical microscopes”. Use practically any three words in Google and you have found me. Mittmount.

Each of the last three examples are entirely different methods of SEO used to put me at the top. For Mittmount, I have over 30 domains forwarded its way!

Here’s a heavy hitting SEO tip. I discovered this the first time I started using GoDaddy and do not know if another registrar offers this feature yet. And not sure if this is in any handbook.

Again, it is a fact that Google DOES NOT read the meta data keyword in the HEAD of your web page. However, Google WILL read the meta data in a forwarding domain, should it be set up to do so!

With GoDaddy, have a nice juicy domain with your keywords in it. Like CEILINGMOUNTEDSURGICALMICROSCOPE.COM Then look for the Masking Tab, there you will have masking title, description and keyword meta tags that will be read by Google.

You can do cool things like: http://www.worldsworstcorporation.com/ only that worked much better a couple months ago! or http://gatorskickass.com/ or http://overratedstate.com/

Robert


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I have always considered Freewaytalk as one of the best forums… friendly, kind, useful. Forum with helpful - I would say ‘mature’ people, without bragging. Can we keep it that way?

Warm regards,

Paul


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Thanks everyone. Problems solved. I had lost my main page somehow so I just found the folder on my hard drive and uploaded it to my cPanel file folder. Changed it to index.html and all is well.


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“rhythmically homogeneous” is quite a specific search term, its good you are doing well with it. (1 out of about 61,300)

One thing to consider is, you might be at the top because the rest of the sites are not very well optimised (often the case), or not even aiming for that search phrase. Any half decent web designer should get good results from the quite specific market you mention. Even if they use Freeway.

But as a balance you can produce pretty good very results from Freeway sites. Our (old, very soon to be replaced) Freeway 3.5 site still does very well on many searches like this one “colour copies”, yet lacks H1 text Freeway 5 could bring to it. etc. (Content is still king)

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&q=colour+copies&btnG=Search

1 - of about 37,200,000

Or you could try google for “i need web hosting” or “freeway web hosting”

This is said as balance to you saying Freeway is in someway defective - If it was I would not be using it. Freeway does gain “a lot” on productivity over the finer points you mention on SEO.

I do agree it could do with longer files through.

Davd

On 8 Mar 2009, 12:29 pm, Rgator wrote:

If you think that was bad, as far as the search page being loaded with my stuff, then do a search for the term “rhythmically homogeneous”. Basically I own that term as far as Google sees it.


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