[Pro] Relative Page Layout Code

If I use the RPL on a site, then at some point in the future I have to give the site (the html) to another web developer, will they be able to work with the code?

In other words, is there any code that will be difficult to work with if a non-Freeway person has to develop the site with the html pages that FW produces.

Thanks.

Bob


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Hi Robert
If you plan on giving the html out put to a non freeway users then they are probably going to baulk at all the inline styles within the html… don’t get me wrong there is nothing wrong with in line styles but for someone who is adjusting the code at a later date then it can be a nightmare to make changes.
What I do when I hand the html over to the other member of the company (non freeway users) the minimum I do is I make sure external style sheets is turned on and the then apply Tim’s superb externalise action on the page…
what this does is remove all the inlines and creates a separate style sheet for that specific page. its a superb action which works really really well

  1. things to look out for: you MUST MUST MUST keep a handle on the styles you are making DONT just let freeway make millions of temporary style which are named style1 style2 ect this is meaningless to some one who is trying to edit the html… if you do let it run a muck then
    the other designers are going to chuck the whole bunch of html and css back at you.

  2. if at all possible convert multiple generic items which would be the same on all the pages from ID specific to classes although not absolutely necessary (although I do this quite a lot)

  3. if you plan on combing style sheets together with something like css tidy then make sure that you don’t name two different items on two different pages that are not exactly the same with the same name.

The upshot is with careful thought, Freeway produces very very good code and if you can keep the above in mind it can produce code that makes absolute sense to a conventional HTML coder.

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Is this inline style “problem” only when RPL is used, or is it a Freeway thing in general? I thought inline was the preferred way of building pages (box model).

I try to be very meticulous about style names! For some reason, (don’t know if this is improved in 5.5) Freeway makes a new style if I alter content in any text. After I;m done typing in a styled block of text, I get a new style1, or whatever.

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On 6 Nov 2010, 1:39 pm, Robert B wrote:

(don’t know if this is improved in 5.5)

It has not.


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I agree. I have my main style as the default - so that it does not become style 1 then I select all choose one pre made

That is how I avoid that. (but that is me :D)

I also go back and erase non name styles when I am done with the page.

J

On Nov 6, 2010, at 9:39 AM, Robert B wrote:

Is this inline style “problem” only when RPL is used, or is it a Freeway thing in general? I thought inline was the preferred way of building pages (box model).

I try to be very meticulous about style names! For some reason, (don’t know if this is improved in 5.5) Freeway makes a new style if I alter content in any text. After I;m done typing in a styled block of text, I get a new style1, or whatever.

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On 6 Nov 2010, 1:57 pm, Solutions Etcetera wrote:

It has not.

Wonderful…

Julie, but doesn’t it create a new style when you type over existing text? Then you have to delete the new style replace it with the correct style. But, if this is happening unbeknown to you, you can wind up with a lot of styles that need to be eliminated, but now you have to hunt down what they have to be replaced with.

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this is my trick for that.

example: If I copy /pasted a HTML box from another page.

I highlight all but the first letter - then start typing.

it then goes with the style of the original text - and all I have to do is erase the first letter.

sneaky but I find it less aggravating then having it do what you explained that it does (and it does)

J
On Nov 6, 2010, at 10:35 AM, Robert B wrote:

On 6 Nov 2010, 1:57 pm, Solutions Etcetera wrote:

It has not.

Wonderful…

Julie, but doesn’t it create a new style when you type over existing text? Then you have to delete the new style replace it with the correct style. But, if this is happening unbeknown to you, you can wind up with a lot of styles that need to be eliminated, but now you have to hunt down what they have to be replaced with.

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That sounds similar to what I do, but I still get all the styles.

Sometimes I just type over one word in a paragraph, leaving all the rest unchanged, and I get a new style.


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FUnny,

I just tested it and I dont - I am 5.5.2

On Nov 6, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Robert B wrote:

That sounds similar to what I do, but I still get all the styles.

Sometimes I just type over one word in a paragraph, leaving all the rest unchanged, and I get a new style.


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FW will make a new style when you make changes to your text (size, font, color etc.) using the Text Tool window. It will also make a new style when you copy and paste text from somewhere else Word/Pages etc. Best to copy and paste using the Paste and Match Style from the Edit Menu or you can reformat your text in Text Edit to plain text and then copy to FW.

Sometimes I just type over one word in a paragraph, leaving all the rest unchanged, and I get a new style

I’m trying to replicate it right now with no luck. If I make an html box and type some text into it, apply a style and then type over a word the same style is applied to the new word. I’m not sure why this happens to you.

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This maddening styles business was much discussed here

http://www.freewaytalk.net/thread/view/58190#m_58383

with a clear example given in this video from Solutions Etcetera which seems to replicate that which Marcel can not do. I will try it myself in a moment

http://solutionsetcetera.com/FreewayStyles/

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Yeah, that’s exactly what happens. And, yes, it is maddening!!


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