[Pro] Save Selection As and saving path

Dear All,

I am on Mac OSX 10.8.4 and Intaglio 3.4.2. I often use Save Selection As… to export files into a folder.

It seems that Intaglio does not remember the path that was last used, resulting in a quite annoying situation: I am working on a file, need to save dozens of figures in a given folder, and every time I have to navigate to that folder. I expected that when hitting Save Selection As, Intaglio started from the path that was last used during the session.

Do you also observe this behaviour? Do you know if it is possible to change it?

Best.
Daniele


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I can’t recommend Default Folder too highly, it makes saving files anywhere on the computer so easy.

Max

On 22 Jul 2013, at 09:23, Daniele Avitabile wrote:

Dear All,

I am on Mac OSX 10.8.4 and Intaglio 3.4.2. I often use Save Selection As… to export files into a folder.

It seems that Intaglio does not remember the path that was last used, resulting in a quite annoying situation: I am working on a file, need to save dozens of figures in a given folder, and every time I have to navigate to that folder. I expected that when hitting Save Selection As, Intaglio started from the path that was last used during the session.

Do you also observe this behaviour? Do you know if it is possible to change it?

Best.
Daniele


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Thanks Max, I resorted to dragging the folder in the dialog box, and the
software you suggest is rather interesting. I am not sure, however, that
the behaviour of this dialog box was really intended by the developer.

Best.

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Roberts, Maxwell J email@hidden wrote:

I can’t recommend Default Folder too highly, it makes saving files
anywhere on the computer so easy.

Max

On 22 Jul 2013, at 09:23, Daniele Avitabile wrote:

Dear All,

I am on Mac OSX 10.8.4 and Intaglio 3.4.2. I often use Save Selection
As… to export files into a folder.

It seems that Intaglio does not remember the path that was last used,
resulting in a quite annoying situation: I am working on a file, need to
save dozens of figures in a given folder, and every time I have to navigate
to that folder. I expected that when hitting Save Selection As, Intaglio
started from the path that was last used during the session.

Do you also observe this behaviour? Do you know if it is possible to
change it?

Best.
Daniele


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Let me try to explain this in a different way. On Mac OSX 10.8.4, Intaglio 3.4.2 has a behaviour that I consider rather strange: when I click “Save Selection As”, I expect that the dialog box would offer to save in the same folder where the intaglio file is located. On the other hand, the default location for “Save Selection As” is my Home folder.

Am I the only one experiencing this mis-behaviour? I am inclined to think that this is a bug rather than an intended behaviour.

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From my experience Intaglio is just saving to the last chosen place - wether you use “save as”, “save selection as” or “save copy as” etc.
But you have “recent places” always at hand with your save dialog from the drop down menu.

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Hi Frank, I wish it was like you say: in my case, it always forgets the last path, even within the same Intaglio session.

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On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Frank email@hidden wrote:

From my experience Intaglio is just saving to the last chosen place - wether you use “save as”, “save selection as” or “save copy as” etc.
But you have “recent places” always at hand with your save dialog from the drop down menu.
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I have now filed a bug report to the developers.


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Just a quick update. I emailed Nick with my bug request. It is a really weird issue, since this seems to be a very consistent bug for me and a colleague of mine on 5 different machines (3 machines for me and 2 for my colleague) with the same OSX version and Intaglio version. However, Nick could not reproduce this behaviour himself. At the end of a long email exchange he wrote:

That’s strange, since I don’t see it on either of my machines, nor on a variety of OS versions. FWIW, the next major version (that we’re working on now) changes the method used for this so I would expect it to solve your problem.


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What is ‘Default Folder’? Is it a new OS 10.7 feature? There is no such feature in OS 10.6.8, which I use.

Try this simple workaround to create your own:

http://postimg.org/image/u2mlfnn3r/

  1. In the Finder, choose List View and select the Documents folder.
  2. In the Documents folder, create a new folder and name it ‘Default Folder’.
  3. Drag the Default Folder into the left-hand navigation pane (Places—see the attached image).
  4. Open Intaglio and save a file. In the Save dialogue box, select the Default Folder (it doesn’t appear automatically), but it’s easy to find.

The Default folder can be moved to the top of the Places column—just click and drag.


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I think this is meant: Default Folder X

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Thanks Ian and Frank! I do use a similar workaround (that is, I put a
folder temporarily in my list of Finder favourite folder).

This is, however, a bug, hence my report to Nick (and my frustration).

Thanks again for your help and suggestions.
Daniele

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 2:31 PM, IanB email@hidden wrote:

What is ‘Default Folder’? Is it a new OS 10.7 feature? There is no such
feature in OS 10.6.8, which I use.

Try this simple workaround to create your own:

http://postimg.org/image/u2mlfnn3r/

  1. In the Finder, choose List View and select the Documents folder.
  2. In the Documents folder, create a new folder and name it ‘Default
    Folder’.
  3. Drag the Default Folder into the left-hand navigation pane (Places—see
    the attached image).
  4. Open Intaglio and save a file. In the Save dialogue box, select the
    Default Folder (it doesn’t appear automatically), but it’s easy to find.

The Default folder can be moved to the top of the Places column—just click
and drag.


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I’m also using Intaglio 3.4.2 and OS X 10.8.4

I find that ‘Save As…’ saves in the last location that ‘Save As…’ used, and ‘Save Selection As…’ independently saves in the last location that ‘Save Selection As…’ used, which is not necessarily the same as the ‘Save As…’ location.

These locations are saved by Navigation Services in:

~/Library/Preferences/com.PurgatoryDesign.Intaglio.plist

when Intaglio quits, and hence are remembered the next time it is run.

In my experience, if you update Intaglio without deleting its preferences file, all sorts of weird behaviour results. I conclude from this that not a lot of validation is done when Intaglio reads its preferences. So, I would suggest quitting Intaglio, deleting the above file, and then trying again.

As a Mac developer myself, I have fought my own battles with the NS preferences system. It works like magic if you stick to the default behaviour. But, if you want to customise things you need to pay a lot of attention to a lot of details or you’ll end up in a world of pain.

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Hi Charles,

Yes, I had tried to delete the preference files in several places, following Nick’s suggestion, to no avail. I guess I’ll have to wait next Intaglio release.

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On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 7:20 PM, cdhw email@hidden wrote:

I’m also using Intaglio 3.4.2 and OS X 10.8.4
I find that ‘Save As…’ saves in the last location that ‘Save As…’ used, and ‘Save Selection As…’ independently saves in the last location that ‘Save Selection As…’ used, which is not necessarily the same as the ‘Save As…’ location.
These locations are saved by Navigation Services in:
~/Library/Preferences/com.PurgatoryDesign.Intaglio.plist
when Intaglio quits, and hence are remembered the next time it is run.
In my experience, if you update Intaglio without deleting its preferences file, all sorts of weird behaviour results. I conclude from this that not a lot of validation is done when Intaglio reads its preferences. So, I would suggest quitting Intaglio, deleting the above file, and then trying again.
As a Mac developer myself, I have fought my own battles with the NS preferences system. It works like magic if you stick to the default behaviour. But, if you want to customise things you need to pay a lot of attention to a lot of details or you’ll end up in a world of pain.
Charles


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On 9 Aug 2013, 7:49 pm, Daniele Avitabile wrote:
Yes, I had tried to delete the preference files in several places, following Nick’s suggestion, to no avail.

Hmm. So to review, you are using the latest released version of OS X and the latest version of Intaglio, no one else has reported this behaviour and I can confirm that it does not happen to me when I’m using the same versions as you.

Unless Nick has told you off-forum that he knows what the problem is, I’m 80% confident that it is something specific to your set up or workflow. Worst case it could be the early signs of disk failure. I recommend that you use Disk Utility to verify/repair your disk and fix its permissions. Also with Disk Utility have a look at the ‘SMART status’, which should be ‘verified’. Next, get the ‘OS X 10.8.4 Combo updater’ (make sure it is the combo version) from here OS X Mountain Lion Update v10.8.4 (Combo)

Use ‘Console.app’ to see if any errors or warnings appear in the system logs when you Save As…

Finally, create yourself a fresh new user account and see whether Intaglio is working okay with a new sketch in there. If so, copy the drawing that you were having issues across to the new account and see if the issue follows it.

Charles


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