[Pro] SmoothScroll not publishing?

For some reason I can’t get SmoothScroll to work properly with FWP 6.0.3 on this page. I’ve installed the action and verified that it’s in my FWP Action directory, and that it’s turned on. Plus, I’ve applied it to the page, but the SmoothScroll code is simply not publishing.

What am I doing wrong?

http://wmp.idealynx.com/extras/funeral-terms.html


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Try it on a new test page. If you can get it to work there, then that may
help you understand why it’s not working on your loaded, converted, busy
busy page.


Ernie Simpson

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:14 PM, RavenManiac email@hidden wrote:

For some reason I can’t get SmoothScroll to work properly with FWP 6.0.3
on this page. I’ve installed the action and verified that it’s in my FWP
Action directory, and that it’s turned on. Plus, I’ve applied it to the
page, but the SmoothScroll code is simply not publishing.

What am I doing wrong?

Williamsburg Memorial Park Cemetery – Funeral Terms


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On 22 Feb 2013, 5:27 pm, The Big Erns wrote:

Try it on a new test page. If you can get it to work there, then that may
help you understand why it’s not working on your loaded, converted, busy
busy page.

Ernie Simpson

Ernie, I get the feeling you think I totally blew this design. (i.e. loaded, converted, busy, busy page). Please help me understand what I’m doing wrong so I can achieve the same level of FWP expertise that you clearly have, and that I appear to be missing. :slight_smile:


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I gave this some more thought and I totally agree. This page is extremely bloated. It probably should be broken down into additional pages, perhaps one page for each letter of the alphabet or a short range of letters.

Do you think a Carousel would work well here? Of course I’ll need about 15 or so, as not every letter is being used, or would that be worse than I already have.

Thanks for your help Ernie.


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Raven, this is not personal - don’t be defensive. This is about
troubleshooting this one issue.

If you can get Smooth Scroll to work on a simple test page, that tells you
two things straight away -

a) that the action does work…

b) that perhaps it is something else in the more complex page may be your
culprit for it not working there.


Ernie Simpson

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:36 PM, RavenManiac email@hidden wrote:

On 22 Feb 2013, 5:27 pm, The Big Erns wrote:

Try it on a new test page. If you can get it to work there, then that may
help you understand why it’s not working on your loaded, converted, busy
busy page.

Ernie Simpson

Ernie, I get the feeling you think I totally blew this design. (i.e.
loaded, converted, busy, busy page). Please help me understand what I’m
doing wrong so I can achieve the same level of FWP expertise that you
clearly have, and that I appear to be missing. :slight_smile:


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The problem I have with using Smooth Scroll on a page such as this is that it is a one-way ticket.

Nice to Smooth-scroll down to your initial selection but you have to give some thought about going back up again.

Besides the Chalkboard effect doesn’t really have the Gravitas that I would expect.

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No, not additional pages… let’s just sort the smooth scroll thing - either
it works or doesn’t.

Did you build a single test page? What happened?


Ernie Simpson

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:19 PM, RavenManiac email@hidden wrote:

I gave this some more thought and I totally agree. This page is extremely
bloated. It probably should be broken down into additional pages, perhaps
one page for each letter of the alphabet or a short range of letters.

Do you think a Carousel would work well here? Of course I’ll need about 15
or so, as not every letter is being used, or would that be worse than I
already have.

Thanks for your help Ernie.


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I’m scrapping V6 until the bugs are worked out… sorry! Softpress is not at fault. The open architecture understandably creates issues with 3rd party developers and relies on their diligence to update their actions. I love both, but it’s difficult telling a client that their website doesn’t work anymore.


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On 22 Feb 2013, 10:09 pm, DeltaDave wrote:

The problem I have with using Smooth Scroll on a page such as this is that it is a one-way ticket.

Nice to Smooth-scroll down to your initial selection but you have to give some thought about going back up again.

Agreed. I haven’t gotten around to designing the return

Besides the Chalkboard effect doesn’t really have the Gravitas that I would expect.

D

Interesting. What do you think would be a better metaphor?


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On 22 Feb 2013, 10:38 pm, The Big Erns wrote:

No, not additional pages… let’s just sort the smooth scroll thing - either
it works or doesn’t.

Did you build a single test page? What happened?

Ernie Simpson

Sorry, got busy. No, I haven’t created another page yet but I will. Thanks.


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Yes, it works on another page. For some reason the action will not publish to this page, but I have no idea why that is happening.


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Okay, I finally got FWP to upload the code, but the scroll is still not working. Walter, what do you think?

http://wmp.idealynx.com/extras/funeral-terms.html


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SmoothScroll ONLY works with regular links, not image maps. To work around this while keeping the chalkboard, you can try this trick. Draw an empty graphic box over the top of each letter (a simple rectangle, not an oval or other non-rectangular shape. Apply your link to that graphic box. Otherwise consider using HTML text for your links.

Walter

On Feb 23, 2013, at 12:14 AM, RavenManiac wrote:

Okay, I finally got FWP to upload the code, but the scroll is still not working. Walter, what do you think?

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On 23 Feb 2013, 4:42 am, waltd wrote:

Draw an empty graphic box over the top of each letter (a simple rectangle, not an oval or other non-rectangular shape. Apply your link to that graphic box.

I can’t seem to make this work. What options should I have selected for the graphic box? BTW, the chalkboard is a png pass-through-graphic. Does that matter?


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Got it and it works great! What I did wrong is the empty graphic box needs to be an Absolute, layered item, which makes sense.

What options do I need to check to ensure that the graphic boxes maintain their positions overtop of their assigned letters?


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Great, glad you did the test… I did it too and was able to learn what to
look for in the code.
http://cssway.thebigerns.com/workbench/du_jour/smooth-scroll-test/

The bit about image maps was great information, thanks Walter!

So, this little troubleshooting exercise achieved much and were useful as
well.

What about using a “blank” chalkboard with white html text links over the
top? Not as authentic as the first, but not an enormous pain to redo?


Ernie Simpson

On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 12:14 AM, RavenManiac email@hiddenwrote:

Okay, I finally got FWP to upload the code, but the scroll is still not
working. Walter, what do you think?

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On 23 Feb 2013, 5:17 am, The Big Erns wrote:

Great, glad you did the test… I did it too and was able to learn what to
look for in the code.
http://cssway.thebigerns.com/workbench/du_jour/smooth-scroll-test/

The bit about image maps was great information, thanks Walter!

So, this little troubleshooting exercise achieved much and were useful as
well.

What about using a “blank” chalkboard with white html text links over the
top? Not as authentic as the first, but not an enormous pain to redo?

Ernie Simpson

Indeed. Nice test. I could certainly try HTML text, but I didn’t see any TypeKit fonts that resembled chalk.

Any ideas on how to handle the return to the top design wise? Perhaps chalk, an eraser, or arrow graphic or should I keep it simple like you did with your example?


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but I didn’t see any TypeKit fonts that resembled chalk.

That is where I think you are going wrong.

Chalk is a transient metaphor and does not carry the sincerity that a site about funerals should.

I would rethink the chalk thing totally.

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Yes, but a chalkboard suggests education or teaching, which is what we’re doing with this particular page.


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Why go so overboard? The chalkboard is enough metaphor, just use Arial or
Helvetica (bold) to create your links.

Ultimately it is just a navigation element - what matters most is whether
or not it works.


Ernie Simpson

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Yes, but a chalkboard suggests education or teaching, which is what we’re
doing with this particular page.


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