[Pro] UNDERLINES.... i don't want them!

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I’m with you Gary I’m about to lose my mind! FW is so UNFRIENDLY! Been here http://www.freewaytalk.net/thread/view/110112 and followed instructions for master pages of attempting to get rid of UNDERLINES on rollovers and hyperlinks. I want my text to be a color and bold not underlined for links. I don’t care what web normal is, underlines happen when you let programmers design! Now I’ve got to get this website published some time in this lifetime and would like to know how to get rid of the underlines. What am I missing today? Where is Quark when you need it! Command B for bold, click color wheel for color… no underline when the button is not pushed! Why does the appearance tab not work properly? Oh I did that code thingy too and it got rid of my bold for me… thanks…

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I don’t use Freeway all the time so I’m not sure how to do this without direct access to the CSS but you could go to page / html markup / select Before from the drop down menu and drop the bit of code in below and your underlines will be gone.

a{text-decoration:none;}a:active{text-decoration:none;}a:hover{text-decoration:none;}a:focus{text-decoration:none;}

For the record I think Freeway is awesome buddy you just need to get your head around it.

Cheers

Gary

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Freewaytalk is usually known as the most polite and helpful community ever. There is one exception:

Me.

This is just because I’m a very emotional person (not to say a #bada55). If someone judges Freeway as user unfriendly, he has reasons for it - mostly personal ignorance or laziness - but not if he challenged about 0.1% of the business he just entered.

So a small tipp:

To avoid being your biggest nightmare, I recommend to rush on this page:

and seek for “Freeway reference guide”

Download it and read it. To shorten your problem, I recommend Page 118 (as well as all pages before and after).

Once read - come back, ask questions and start thinking web.

Cheers

Thomas

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Totally agree Gary.

2014-07-15 22:01 GMT+02:00 Gary email@hidden:

I don’t use Freeway all the time so I’m not sure how to do this without
direct access to the CSS but you could go to page / html markup / select
Before from the drop down menu and drop the bit of code in below
and your underlines will be gone.

a{text-decoration:none;}a:active{text-decoration:none;}a:hover{text-decoration:none;}a:focus{text-decoration:none;}

For the record I think Freeway is awesome buddy you just need to get your
head around it.

Cheers

Gary

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And again I totally agree Thomas. Good reading first is speeding after.

2014-07-15 22:15 GMT+02:00 email@hidden:

Totally agree Gary.

2014-07-15 22:01 GMT+02:00 Gary email@hidden:

I don’t use Freeway all the time so I’m not sure how to do this without

direct access to the CSS but you could go to page / html markup / select
Before from the drop down menu and drop the bit of code in below
and your underlines will be gone.

a{text-decoration:none;}a:active{text-decoration:none;}a:hover{text-decoration:none;}a:focus{text-decoration:none;}

For the record I think Freeway is awesome buddy you just need to get your
head around it.

Cheers

Gary

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Ouch Thomas! You say it how it is buddy :wink:

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Hey Thomas… so sorry to hit a sore spot with you… but I can assure you I am not in the least bit lazy… I am a little on the old side so maybe i can’t take in as much info, but I do find the tuts in youtube, itunes and book somewhat lacking in some important details. I have done my homework with Freeway before I even started the website and I have the reference guide right here on my desk. I use quark, Illustrator and photoshop and the menus work. I am finding the inspector palette is not working on this underline issue. I spent hours on it before I even asked for help so I was a tad emotional. Now I will run to that page 118 and see if I can start thinking web and maybe those underlines will magically disappear. And maybe the colors will magically start working too.

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If you’re looking to influence all of the links on the entire page, then just be certain that you don’t have anything on the page selected while you are looking through the Inspector.

The Inspector is context-sensitive – it changes its contents and target depending on the current selection. If you click on the pasteboard (the area outside of the central page in the design mode) then you will be certain to have nothing selected, and the Inspector will target the page itself.

Once you’re at that point, look in the second tab from the left (style) about half-way down. You will see the Links segment (expand it if it’s closed) and there you will be able to set the default style for underlining links. You will need to do this across all four link states – Link, Visited, Hover, and Active.

The difference between the individual states of the U buttons is quite subtle, bordering on indistinct.

Best way to figure this out is to open a new window (Window/New Window) on the same document, and switch that window to Preview mode. That way the links will appear as they are going to be rendered in HTML, and any changes you make to the Inspector on the original window will be immediately reflected in the live preview.

Walter

On Jul 15, 2014, at 4:59 PM, dnafreq wrote:

Hey Thomas… so sorry to hit a sore spot with you… but I can assure you I am not in the least bit lazy… I am a little on the old side so maybe i can’t take in as much info, but I do find the tuts in youtube, itunes and book somewhat lacking in some important details. I have done my homework with Freeway before I even started the website and I have the reference guide right here on my desk. I use quark, Illustrator and photoshop and the menus work. I am finding the inspector palette is not working on this underline issue. I spent hours on it before I even asked for help so I was a tad emotional. Now I will run to that page 118 and see if I can start thinking web and maybe those underlines will magically disappear. And maybe the colors will magically start working too.

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Hey Gary… very timid about putting in code… i did do the code thing talked about here http://www.freewaytalk.net/thread/view/110112 putting in the text no decoration and it deleted my bold type. My question for you is, the solution you are suggesting does it only eliminate the underline or does it effect the bold styling as well? This program seems to do what it wants to instead of what you want it to do. Thank you.

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Walter’s solution is a better one mate but mine will not make your bold text change to normal text.

If you do get an issue with it just use this amended code

a{text-decoration:none;font-weight:bold!important;} a:active{text-decoration:none;} a:hover{text-decoration:none;} a:focus{text-decoration:none;}

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If you do get an issue with it just use this amended code

There is absolutely no reason for such a deep dive!

Follow Walter’s suggestion and it will all become clear - and easy.

D

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Agreed Dave, the best solution is to use the software as it is intended to be used. My solution will work but adding this code or any piece of simple code like this to an app that has the functionality built in is pointless.

Freeway is built to do the heavy lifting for you so finding work arounds for issues that don’t exist is not really a solution.

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indeed it works as it should within the inspector and you even don’t need
to preview. Although it looks as if there are three instances. What is the
third?
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If you do get an issue with it just use this amended code

There is absolutely no reason for such a deep dive!

Follow Walter’s suggestion and it will all become clear - and easy.

D

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On 15 Jul 2014, 8:59 pm, dnafreq wrote:

Hey Thomas… so sorry to hit a sore spot with you… but I can assure you I am not in the least bit lazy…

… just the sum of a few years experience I referred to - not specifically addressed on you - so apologize.

… I use quark, Illustrator and photoshop and the menus work.

So Freeways’ does.

I am finding the inspector palette is not working on this underline issue. I spent hours on it before I even asked for help so I was a tad emotional. Now I will run to that page 118 and see if I can start thinking web and maybe those underlines will magically disappear. And maybe the colors will magically start working too.

Well - let me say it that way:

Up to a certain level I agree - and up to a certain level (and this is probably the confusing part of working with Freeway) the offered workflow is kinda odd and confusing as well.

But it’s not just the app - it’s the attitude in general. This could (inconclusively) part of your problem and I’m one of those lonely fighters trying to force Freeway users into another direction which is “Content First”.

Personally - I’d like to see the “text styling opportunities” removed from Inspector’s first place. The way it is is similar to DTP programs which had been nice in the past, but resulting (usually) in a big style-mess. I’d like to see a stronger “Edit ->Styles” role for some good reasons. So if you “over styled” your current text, this might even break some basic functions.

For this purpose I did exactly two things so far.

  1. An article of a workflow proposal: http://www.kimmich-digitalmedia.com/articles/workflow-wireframe-construction

  2. A series of video screencasts that are starting consequent with content as well (find them under the video section of the page above “The coding episode”).

Both are not perfectly english - I know - but made with blood, sweat and tears.

So back to your initial problem and a good place for a practice session.

  1. Create a new blank master page.

  2. Insert two HTML items. Fill them both with some Lorem text (whatever).

  3. Select in each Textbox one word and make each a (dummy) link.

You should now see the default (browser) behavior which is blue underlined (right?).

Now follow Walter or p. 118. Nothing selected: Global styles, one specific Text-box selected, Item specific. Bold I recommend using the “more” button which opens a style dialog as well.

If you adopt my strict way of thinking, this is one of the first things I’d do in my workflow. And if you use CSS-Menu action, the same attitude is required.

Cheers

Thomas

PS: If much time available, this is what I once did as well (but will be substituted and part of “The coding episode”):

http://kimmich-dm.de/wordpress/?p=481

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Hey Thomas… Thanks so much for your help. Got the text rollovers to behave as I wanted (not sure if I could do it again), haven’t tried on the link to PDF yet. My eyes glazed over reading pg 119. FW has some terminology I am new to so have to read it 5 times to get a clue. I prefer to learn by doing so always do tuts first and usually figure out things by being click happy. This method doesn’t work so well in FW because I run into menus that I have no idea what they are talking about. :slight_smile: This IS my first website! And I am definitely not a programmer. That learning curve can be frustrating at times. Going on vacation for a few days so will continue with your informative response and this awesome forum when I return. DO appreciate your input! I will be upgrading to FW 6 shortly and looking forward to FW 7 as well.

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I’m age 71 and pretty low-tech. Page 169 at FW5_Reference_Rev004_screenversion.pdf explains well and simply how to remove the link underlines.

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LOL Jim… you got me beat on that age thing… thank you so much for your great suggestion with an exact page number… that is a big help… I will research it as soon as i get back from short vaca… leaving in the morning… you guys are right… this is a great community… looking forward to getting to know everyone… from what I am seeing on here… you guys are way over my head… going to need lots of help from all of you… blessings…

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