[Pro] What pages do I create with FWP+EE

I am starting to learn how to setup a FW file [box model - love it] with EE actions. I understand how EE is a database and pulls info into the pages. What I have a hard time wrapping my head around is the amount of pages in correlation to FWP.

The main site navigation I am looking at is Home, Department (10 submenu), and Jurisdiction (13 submenu). This is a rough start in html mode (EE not installed yet).

http://clgi.beezeyeview.net/template_masters/index/index.html

So each Department will have basic repeating data fields (pulled from EE such as the leader name of the department or the leaders over the jurisdiction), but each page may also have additional data that is possibly more static (such as beliefs or or mission statement). I guess they could be added to EE as well so they are updated by the users.

My question - what pages do I create in FW as a template? I have created a page for each item in the CSS menu for the whole site as I normally would. I suspect this is wrong.


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It is something to wrap your head around. The thing is, you can do almost anything you want. You could create a separate template page for every page that site visitors will see. That is one extreme. The other extreme is to create maybe one template page for the whole site and use conditionals or other programming tricks to generate the required content. That can be a bit of a challenge.

For a lot of the sites I’ve done, the lowest-level “article” or “news” page is shared among several topic areas. This is true on http://idealady.com . The Products, Classes, etc. pages are separate, but the pages that they lead to are the same “article” template.

I think as you go through the site design, you’ll start seeing patterns where you can use the same template vs. places where you need separate ones.


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thanks Joe. I can see how you have that site going and it makes sense. The box simply grabs the EE data for those pages. I feel like my project runs deeper and I get confused.

I am trying to run some similar concepts as the tutorial found here:
http://church.train-ee.com/

One area I cannot decipher is the Ministries page. If I look at the links, it changes from ministries to category/teens for example. Would that be a separate page in FW? I cannot figure out how to get this page to work for my layout.

I have lots of cross references to make - starting with Location (Jurisdiction) and then the churches in that location. Next departments - the main ones, plus departments for each jurisdiction (local churches only list their pastor and assistant pastor). I get lost on whether to make a page in FW for these or not.

I just dont know how to cut back on what I have to do to make this efficient and seamless. Maybe what I need to do is on the border of conditionals and programming. Gulp. Maybe a page for each is what I should stick to as in a normal site setup. At this point I dont know if all departments will have the same ‘landing’ page - each might need its own template (page) to customize its data pulled from EE.

I also need to do more homework on categories - I suspect that is where I am hung up on (as in the Ministries sample site)…among a hundred other areas right now. But, hey, its a start…

p.s. Where can I learn to do the search box?


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You will need to have an idea of the content that each page will need. However, it’s not a big deal to have sections of the page that aren’t used for each department. You might just need to have a conditional that says “if this field is blank, skip it” so it doesn’t show a blank space in the final layout.

I’m a programming geek (obviously), so I tend to look for ways to make as few pages as possible. For the Idea Lady site, I looked into having the category pages be one template, but there were a few too many complexities to make it work well. There is nothing wrong with having “too many” templates, as long as the final site works.

I’m pretty sure the search form I made used the Simple Search Form Tag.

http://expressionengine.com/docs/modules/search/simple.html


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Thanks again Joe. Good to know I cant have too many templates - that might be a good start for me until I can grasp how the puzzle pieces all fit.
Thanks for the search info too - hope this all works. I envision the search box to not only list events but also help find a church if someone is not inclined to look under the Jurisdiction tab and find the region they are in.


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Good luck, and keep asking when you need help. I know there’s more than just me on here who can help with EE questions. :slight_smile:


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