[Pro] Whats in the resources folder?

Can someone help me understand how my resources folder is made up. The problem is that if I use something on a page and then delete it it stays in the resources folder and then when I upload even if the item is not on a FW page it still gets uploaded. Have I got something setup wrong?

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Hi Anton,

Its best not to worry or even look at the resources folder contents Freeway creates. Freeway will look after this for you regardless of what you do. All its doing is recreating the file structure its sending to the server. If you are really worried, delete all the contents, and let Freeway publish the files again. If the files are still there Freeway needs them.

David

On 22 Apr 2010, at 14:02, anton wrote:

Can someone help me understand how my resources folder is made up. The problem is that if I use something on a page and then delete it it stays in the resources folder and then when I upload even if the item is not on a FW page it still gets uploaded. Have I got something setup wrong?

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Thanks David, could you answer another for me if I use a third party FTP such as filezilla. Which folder do I need to point to to upload the site is it just the folder called 'FW files"
also there is the .freeway folder which contains hundreds of moo files and the actions I have used but this is not in the ‘FW files’ folder but next to it.


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Mm, not sure what you are referring to.

When Freeway published a site, it prompts you to create a folder on your mac to publish the files to. Personally I call this folder “site folder” and store it in the project folder where the master Freeway file is (along side a “Media” folder where I keep all the graphics for the site).

My Project folder { Freeway File | Media folder | Site folder }

What ever you called your site folder, the “contents” of this folder is the one you upload to your web folder in your hosting.

But why make life so difficult? Just use the Freeway to FTP your files up.

David

On 22 Apr 2010, at 16:00, anton wrote:

Thanks David, could you answer another for me if I use a third party FTP such as filezilla. Which folder do I need to point to to upload the site is it just the folder called 'FW files"
also there is the .freeway folder which contains hundreds of moo files and the actions I have used but this is not in the ‘FW files’ folder but next to it.


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Hi David thanks for the info. 2 reasons I am trying other ftp’s.

It seems that there is no way to just upload single files, you have to upload the whole site every time, which in my case because I will be uploading lots of film will get time consuming.

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Just use the Freeway to FTP your files up.

Agreed - if you do it manually you run the risk of not uploading everything that you need or re-uploading your whole site unnecessarily. This might not be a problem on a small site but if you have a site with 100Mb+ files it will take some time.

That where FW’s upload feature is so good - it will upload everything that you have changed and not what you haven’t.

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So any movies that are already up will not reload even if there position is different or they have new links. Assuming the name of the movie file is the same?


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It seems that there is no way to just upload single files, you have to upload the whole site every time, which in my case because I will be uploading lots of film will get time consuming.

There are circumstances where it is advantageous to upload manually.

Run through your particular scenario so that we can maybe offer a better workflow.

These films that you are uploading - are they incorporated into your pages?

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The only hitch to this is that Freeway divines that “has changed”
property by page, not by individual resource. So if you have a page
with 32 PDFs linked from it using an Action, and you move something on
that page 1px in any direction, you will have to wait while all 32
PDFs upload again. And then if you touch that page again, you get to
do it all over.

But that’s decidedly an edge case, so unless this describes a lot of
your pages, you should see the brighter side of this, as in shockingly
brief uploads of only a few HTML files and an image or three.

Walter

On Apr 22, 2010, at 12:56 PM, DeltaDave wrote:

That where FW’s upload feature is so good - it will upload
everything that you have changed and not what you haven’t.


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No. See my other post on this point. You will have to wait while they
upload again. But movies on a different page than the one you’re
working on will not have to upload again, if that’s any consolation.

Walter

On Apr 22, 2010, at 1:01 PM, anton wrote:

So any movies that are already up will not reload even if there
position is different or they have new links. Assuming the name of
the movie file is the same?


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aha it is consolation yes as I will have a page with thumbnails which will link to other pages each with a single film on…,terrific!

Ok now what I need is a really cool looking bespoke designed player something like this one.

http://www.redshark.tv/

If anyone has the knowledge to do this I would be interested in knowing what fee might be attached to such a build?


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Right I see where you are going with this. Are you struggling uploading large movie files?

Freeway shouldn’t re-upload the resources movies, if you don’t change anything related to them. But there are occasions where Freeway will want to re-upload files. And big files can “time out” then Freeway can balk with an FTP error, whereas a dedicated FTP client will just chugg thruogh regardless if set not to time out.

You could just create a folder on the server containing all your movies, but that assumes you know how to correctly link them from Freeway, and it can get a bit messy for you. Or simply check your work locally and make sure everything is correct before uploading thus reducing the times you do upload.

David

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So any movies that are already up will not reload even if there position is different or they have new links. Assuming the name of the movie file is the same?


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Yeah I am getting error messages everytime I try and upload a movie file around 30mb and of course it stops uploading at that point so I end up with half a site.

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If anyone has the knowledge to do this I would be interested in knowing what fee might be attached to such a build?

Well these are done as Flash files so if you want to go down that route then something like Video2SWF will be worth looking at and you can customise the player in there. http://www.verticalmoon.com/

But remember your iPhone and iPad users too.

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Anton,

That whole site is done in Flash. If you want your site to be viewed on iPhone, or the biggy on the very near horizon the “iPad”, I wouldn’t invest in going down the Flash route.

CSS and HTML5 is going to be way forward.

A client local to me is regretting spending the £3,000 on his flash web site (we have to pick up the pieces of this ill advised web site done by some other designers)

David

On 22 Apr 2010, at 18:15, anton wrote:

aha it is consolation yes as I will have a page with thumbnails which will link to other pages each with a single film on…,terrific!

Ok now what I need is a really cool looking bespoke designed player something like this one.

http://www.redshark.tv/

If anyone has the knowledge to do this I would be interested in knowing what fee might be attached to such a build?


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That whole site is done in Flash. If you want your site to be viewed on iPhone, or the biggy on the very near horizon the “iPad”, I wouldn’t invest in going down the Flash route.

Yes just had a look at RedShark on my iPad and that fish is dead in the water! Just some unlinked text.

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Thanks Dave that is interesting. Do you have any pointers on the best way to be loading film and what players to use for future referencing on the ipad…is quicktime gonna carry on?


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Don’t ya feel so sorry for Adobe :wink:

David

On 22 Apr 2010, at 18:36, DeltaDave wrote:

Yes just had a look at RedShark on my iPad and that fish is dead in the water! Just some unlinked text.


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Remember the iPhone iPad redirect action that can be used to present alternate content for iUsers.

You can still use Flash but you also need to provide the alternate.

…is quicktime gonna carry on?

Certainly - every iPhone/iTunes user has it (or are certainly offered it)

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http://vimeo.com/blog:268

This isn’t recent news mind you, but at least they are working on providing an html5 player. Something like this could be inserted into a Freeway layout.


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