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I have created three images and used them to make a simple rollover ‘graphic’ button. It worked on a blank page. I then dropped it onto my header (which is set with modify height action and ‘auto’ margins, on a html container (called PAGETOP) -full width - that floats left). The images had been locked and grouped. Using safari I previewed it and it went through the images (normal, mouseover, click). I could see all three images on the Rollover Images info box. I had ticked the relevant rows so that the images could be seen when in the right state. As a test I duplicated the rollover and toggled and could test click on both, and they reverted back to their resting image (normal) … when I duplicated again the problem happened. In Safari & Firefox all three rollovers display the same ‘clicked’ image no matter whether my mouse hovers or clicks or is nowhere near.

It may be relevant to say that the original rollover I first created is in MASTER>PAGETOP>HEADER (here). I tried again and put the rollover in the MASTER>PAGEFOOTER section I’d created, ignoring the HEADER and it worked. Everytime I put it back in the HEADER box it does not work and shows the ‘clicked’ image ie the image at the top of the group.

Can anyone help? It is probably simple. I have tried dumping the cache, rebooting etc in case it is a cache problem but still I get the static rollover. Really frustrating. Oh, and when I tried putting the rollover in the space between MASTER>PAGETOP>(here) HEADER (instead of here) the whole of Freeway crashes and the app fails. Please help :slight_smile:


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Sorry, forgot to give this a title : ROLLOVER PROBLEM, LINKED TO HEADER and CACHE-ING

For a test I added the Attention FX (shake) action to the rollovers and previewed in Safai/Firefox. They all shook but keep their single image and don’t rollover. I then deleted the action and previewed and the images were still shaking, despite removing the cahe, using a cache deletion program and rebooting … so is it a cache issue after all?


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Can you post a link to this page online somewhere?

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Hi Dave,
Sadly I don’t have anywhere I can up load the few pages I have done. The rollovers work on the page but not in the header where they stick on the ‘click’ graphic. The page I am using was created after I read this from Joe Billlings:

Quote: "Basically you need to use inflow items to create the main sections of the site, the header, the body and the footer. These should all be set to float left and have 100% width on a page with no alignement (meaning the page is always the width of the browser window). You want these items to have no height (so they grow vertically when the content inside them gets bigger) so, in order to stop the item shrinking to 0px when you remove the height, apply the Modify Height Action (which is part of the Relative Page Layout suite) to them and set the Height option to Undefined. Make the actual height of the item the height you want it to be (it will get trickier to do this later on so make a good guess now).

Inside each of these items you need another inflow item that has a specific width (the width you want your centered content to be) and margins set to Auto. Automatic margins on fixed width items will center themselves in their parent items, so in this case, the 100% width inflow items. Apply the Modify Height Action to these new items and change the Height option to Minimum. (THIS IS WHAT FORMS MY MY HEADER SECTION) Doing this means that the items won’t shrink to fit their content, instead they will remain at a minimum size and grow further if they need to.

Apply the Relative Page Layout Action to the page or Site Folder.

Add your regular layer items into each section, you don’t need to worry about making these inflow, just use regular draggable items - they will all be consumed by the RPL Action when you publish.

That’s it - though there are some things to note:

Changing the height of your main sections (header, body, footer) requires changing the physical height of the highest level items first (the inflow items from the first step) and then the second level items. If you try and drag the second level items they will be restricted by the first level items and nothing will happen. To get access to the first level items, either use command-option click to cycle through stacked items, or select the items in the Site panel after choosing “Show Items” from the menu at the bottom of the Site panel (or clicking the word Site at the top of the Site panel.

Don’t use Master pages for content using inflow items - you’ll just find you lose content when you do a reapply master, or Use Master Settings/Content. Only use the Master for the basic structure of header, body, footer and the centered inflow item within each of these sections. "

So I am using this page and pasting rollovers from a blank page where they work and then they don’t. And if I move them closer up the heiracrchy the whole FW crashes. Sorry I can’t be clearer.

Is this the best way to set up? I have already done half of a 20 page site but felt I needed to have the html and graphics on an ordered structured page and not ad hoc - that’s why I followed Joe’s advice from a thread.

I suppose I am looking for decent info on creating rollovers with 3 images (one for normal, mouse and click) which then activate a transitional effect and a blind slides down to reveal a menu with links - all in css layers - not box.

Any ideas? Sorry so vague.
al
(also glasgow)


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Have a look at http://www.deltadesign.co/examples/rollover.html for another way

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Blimey Dave, works a treat without a judder or crash. I just set it up with a target show hide layer and the three states were fine using several rollovers … as usual I am itching for more and really want something like the transitional fx action - with hidden text coming down like a blind.

How would I set up a trigger for it using the rollover action? (Simple I know but hey) … No idea why I had all the bother using the other way.

thanks for getting me this far.
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How would I set up a trigger for it using the rollover action?

Revisit the link and click.

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That is brilliant - many thanks. I was so taken up by the fact that the images then FW were freezing/crashing that I have not really investigated how triggers work. Ta.

I wonder if there is a caching issue with Safari & FW - funny thing is, things all worked once FW crashed the last time … then froze this morning. I will probably reinstall FW.

If I do reinstall will things such as media resources be wiped?

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If I do reinstall will things such as media resources be wiped?

It depends where you have put them.

Hopefully you have not put anything in the FW application folder as long as you haven’t done that then youi will be fine.

Run a Disk utility to check for HD issues first - repair permissions etc.

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makes sense - I have kept away from the app folder - just ran the utility and a long list came up so maybe there is something on my mac computer not quite right. appreciate the help,
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It makes sense to organise all your resources into one place and draw them all from there - that is why FW helpfully creates a Media folder for you.

So as part of my file management I will copy all images/videos/text docs that are going to be used in a site into the Media folder when I get them from client(s)

Then I know that they are all in one place - and I still have the originals elsewhere.

Then when they are required I import them from the Media folder. Note that if you copy/paste then FW stores the file within the doc rather than just referencing it if you Import - this can lead to File Size bloat.

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The new rollovers work a treat but every so often the browser fails to reload - either safari or firefox I am using (both are offline as my website is not up on the net). I have tried all sorts ie emptying cache, playing with settings etc but the fact remains that I don’t see all the changes I make to my pages. This is making it hard to create anything and is a real pain. I gather this is happening to others - I have updated to latest version of FW pro but it is still happening - very pot luck as to when I see what I am doing. Help. It is impossible to work this way - am using an imac 3.06 ghz intel core duo with 2g …


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Get your web space organised and you should be fine online.

But this shouldn’t be a local preview problem. Is it just the browser preview or are you getting this with the in FW preview.

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Good points there DD. I have checked and the preview in FW seems fine - so there must be something with my previewing in the browser. I didn’t expect a response past midnight but many thanks.


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Actually, there have been five FW Pro crashes today when I have tried to reapply my master to a page. I will send a report to the powers that be .
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Quite often FW crashes are related to Font issues so if you have any font checking/management software it is worth checking your Fonts in case there are any dodgy ones in there.

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I read quite a few threads on here and they said that, dave - so I have run a check on the font book and I had a quarter of my fonts with ‘issues’ and a couple warning not to use so I have reinstalled from my mac install disc and given it a fresh start. Hopefully that will help. Appreciate your advice & time.


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