Problems navigating FWTalk

Hi chaps - I’ve been experiencing problems in both Safari and Ffox - I can browse the content of FWay talk but when I click on “People” I get nowhere and cannot even get back to “Talk” without restarting Safari - any thoughts please ? Roger


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The people page is getting way too large. I need to split it up into multiple pages as the forum pages are.

What’s happening here is that your browser is trying to download all of the pictures of everyone all at once, and not having a good time of it.

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Hi,

Can I just ask, how does one use the “quote” feature when I would like to quote another person’s response - sorry for the silly query but when I try it, it just doesn’t seem to work.

Thanks.
Tony.


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Thanks Waltd - it must be getting very big - my browser doesn’t normally struggle - anyway thanks for your time in answering I wanted to get to “people” because, I think, that is where you suggested I can view all of my posts ? and I wanted to check on a couple of points / comments already made. I had a really good session with FW yesterday (thanks to the foul weather in Southern UK) and I really think it’s an excellent programme, several people (also learning how to build web sites) pooh poohed it saying it wasn’t “serious” - I’m really looking forward to proving them wrong. Roger


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Sometime around 27/5/08 (at 01:15 -0400) Roger Burton said:

several people (also learning how to build web sites) pooh poohed it
saying it wasn’t “serious” - I’m really looking forward to proving
them wrong.

Heh. Funny how people seem to latch onto the idea that ‘if it ain’t
direct programming it ain’t serious’, even when they’re just starting
out themselves. This world of web design seems to polarise people
faster than bluegrass music or Marmite on toast!

Go for it Roger, show them how they should be working. :slight_smile:

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Hi Keith, my daughter-in-law in particular (who is working with Joomla to build a big-ish commerce site) suggested I wasn’t taking web design very seriously if I wanted to use Freeway !

I must say I really ENJOY working with After Effects and Photoshop and a few other programmes and I’m beginning to feel the same way about Freeway _ I did NOT enjoy Dreamweaver - I seemed to spend more time trying to learn how to make it work than working - (I’ve never really enjoyed getting under the bonnet - too messy) ! Roger


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On 27 May 2008, at 09:18, Keith Martin wrote:

This world of web design seems to polarise people
faster than bluegrass music or Marmite on toast!

That’s quite a coincidence - I’m eating the latter while listening to
Alison Krauss …

best wishes

Paul Bradforth

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Sometime around 27/5/08 (at 11:35 +0100) Paul Bradforth said:

I’m eating the latter while listening to Alison Krauss …

Good choices, both of 'em. I’ve just put on that joint effort between
her and Robert Plant, ‘Raising Sand’. More Americana than bluegrass,
really, but whatthehell, I love it all. :slight_smile:

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Sometime around 27/5/08 (at 05:55 -0400) Roger Burton said:

Hi Keith, my daughter-in-law in particular (who is working with
Joomla to build a big-ish commerce site) suggested I wasn’t taking
web design very seriously if I wanted to use Freeway !

Mmm. I’m sure she’s a great dauther-in-law (she had the good taste to
marry your son), but it sounds like she’s of the ‘no pain, no gain’
school of thought when it comes to web design. And also someone who
sees every web design problem as a nail suitable for their particular
CMS-shaped hammer.

There are many cases where it would be madness to try anything but
a CMS tool to build something. But that’s certainly not always the
case, not by a long chalk. (As I wrote in that CMS article for
MacUser the other week.)

Me, I like learning new stuff and I’m happy to get oily and technical
where it matters. But dang, designing web pages with non-visual
tools is as bad as trying to make an illustration using a bar of soap
instead of a pencil.

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I’m a newbie to FW and I really think it’s a great app - really powerful and really enjoy using it.

I was really amazed from another thread that there really isn’t a huge base of Freeway users as when I tried to locate any books from amazon, nothing was available, b/c of this reason.

I believe this app has alot of potential and really think that Softpress really need to market it better and get the word out there, that FW is another contender in the Web Design app space.

Just my two cents worth.

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On 27 May 2008, at 11:45, Keith Martin wrote:

Good choices, both of 'em. I’ve just put on that joint effort between
her and Robert Plant, ‘Raising Sand’. More Americana than bluegrass,
really, but whatthehell, I love it all. :slight_smile:

Me too; bought it the other day, good stuff.

best wishes

Paul Bradforth

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On 27 May 2008, 4:03 am, Tonsils wrote:

Hi,

Can I just ask, how does one use the “quote” feature when I would like to quote another person’s response - sorry for the silly query but when I try it, it just doesn’t seem to work.

Thanks.
Tony.

Well, you click one of them, and the quoted text appears (after a moment’s pause, in the reply box, all marked up as quoted text in Markdown syntax.

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Not for me, I click the quote box once and nothing happens, apart form the page re-loading. Press the quote button a second time, then the message field populates. (FireFox 2.0.0.14)

On 27 May 2008, 11:52 am, waltd wrote:

Well, you click one of them, and the quoted text appears (after a moment’s pause, in the reply box, all marked up as quoted text in Markdown syntax.

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This can happen if your session has gone stale. I have seen it happen
from time to time, but there’s nothing I have been able to do about
it because I can’t repeat the problem consistently. FireBug never
reports an error when it happens, either, so it’s clearly something
going wrong in the PHP side of things.

There is a LOT of effort put into keeping this forum spam-free, and
sometimes that comes at the direct expense of everyday usability.

I’ll keep working on it, when I have time.

Walter

On May 27, 2008, at 8:05 AM, WebWorker wrote:

Not for me, I click the quote box once and nothing happens, apart
form the page re-loading. Press the quote button a second time,
then the message field populates. (FireFox 2.0.0.14)


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As an interim measure, I just turned off the Gravatars in the list
view. The page loads almost immediately now. You can still see
people’s Gravatars next to their individual posts, or on a person
page http://freewaytalk.net/person/view/27.

Walter

On May 27, 2008, at 1:15 AM, Roger Burton wrote:

Thanks Waltd - it must be getting very big - my browser doesn’t
normally struggle - anyway thanks for your time in answering I
wanted to get to “people” because, I think, that is where you
suggested I can view all of my posts ?


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Thanks Walter for the reply. I was having the exact same problem as WebWorker - this being my reason for the query. I thought I was the only one having this problem.

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If you have this problem, and the click twice trick doesn’t resolve
it, you can also get some magic out of reloading the entire page.
That forces all of the session stuff to rebuild if it has gotten lost
somehow.

Walter

On May 27, 2008, at 8:53 AM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

This can happen if your session has gone stale. I have seen it happen
from time to time, but there’s nothing I have been able to do about
it because I can’t repeat the problem consistently. FireBug never
On May 27, 2008, at 8:05 AM, WebWorker wrote:

Not for me, I click the quote box once and nothing happens, apart
form the page re-loading. Press the quote button a second time,
then the message field populates. (FireFox 2.0.0.14)


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On 27 May 2008, 9:55 am, Roger Burton wrote:
my daughter-in-law in particular (who is working with Joomla to build a big-ish commerce site) suggested I wasn’t taking web design very seriously if I wanted to use Freeway !

I suppose if your DiL is looking to be employed as a webmaster for someone else, Freeway is a bad choice. But if you are your own boss, I’d think getting to the finish line in the shortest possible time would be more important.

I have been resisting Freeway for years, preferring GoLive’s better ability to let me get my fingers between the fan blades, but where did that get me? An EOL’d environment (there’s that nasty apostrophe again (c;). And when Apple acquires Adobe… that hideous, fat, bloated, and buggy thing we know as DW will be next to go.

Bottom line is unless your building your sites with a text editor, your not REALLY being “serious” as none of the WYSIWYG solutions write code that is easily portable to any other.

I prefer to be more productive than “serious”.

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… And when Apple acquires Adobe… that hideous, fat, bloated, and buggy thing we know as DW will be next to go.

That is pretty unlikely. More likely is they buy much smaller 3rd party apps that together offer what Adobe does (most of which they have now) and put their own spin on them. However, this is also not likely as Apple is firmly focused on the consumer market right now and for the forseeable future. Graphics and web development are not high on their priority list.


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Walter said:

As an interim measure, I just turned off the Gravatars in the list view

I know it was getting a tad slow to load - but that page looks so empty now with no ugly mugs to look at.

David


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