Thanks Dan…just knowing I have a safety net makes me more comfortable…btw, love just the core capabilities in EE and I realize I haven’t even scratched the surface.
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One other issue here Bill to be aware of when sending your replies this way… they start a new thread.
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Thanks, I’ll post from my computer in the future…Walter, can you combine these in one thread. Lesson learned, sorry for mucking things up, I promise to be behave in the future!
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Yeah, I think you’ll realize that using EE and it’s modules are not as hard as some make it out to be.
Hopefully everyone here will be able to figure it out through text as my screen-casts are on hiatus for now.
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Fixed this thread to get all the messages together.
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Quote question: How much of a leap is it to move bup into the membership module with the upgraded version of EE? /quote question
EE is made in a very logical way, although it takes a while (at least for me) before one discovers what kind of logic is behind.
About that ‘member module’
You can create as much ‘member-types’ as you want, each with own privileges. Like in OSX: read or write yes or no. And that on a weblog basis. So one member could have write access in one weblog, while in another none at all, and so on. So, it’s do-able. And above all: fun…!!
success
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Thanks for the words of encouragement Hans. I’m going to buy EE this weekend and upload to my site’s server. I really wanted to make sure I could reach out here for the inevitable issues that will come up. My client’s site is live now but I really need to have the member features that EE offers without breaking the substantial work I’ve already done on the site. I will make a backup of everything before loading EE just in case.
So, I’ll be working on it this weekend and over the holidays. They need a fully functioning site by the new year.
I’m sure my questions will seem very basic to those of you who have used EE before. I’m using the EE action and sometimes get hung up on how the action window relates to the EE code. Once I work through it once or twice I’m sure the lights will come on, just not there yet.
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To help out further Bill, I bought some of these video’s from this website:
http://www.pragprog.com/screencasts/v-riexp/building-a-dynamic-website-with-expressionengine
I’d take notice to episode #8 as it’s about setting up membership on an EE site. Ryan Irelan does a great job of explaining it, plus it’s a video so you can see it all works as far as setting it up in your site. As far as setting up member groups that video will give you a start, but I’d check the EE documentation for further help on that.
Can’t beat 5 bucks, I should be charging for mine.
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Thanks Dan, I’ll be watching episode 8 tonight. Some of those others might help too and you’re right…can’t beat the price.
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I purchased and watched Ryan’s video tutorial on member management, thanks Dan for that tip. I may not end up purchasing the whole series but its nice to know its there.
I followed his examples fairly well for the overall idea. I was a bit intimidated by the code he inserted into the EE templates but think I could get it after watching a few more times.
The question I have is the following: Ryan was editing and adding code directly into the EE templates. I was tempted to think I could do the same and I probably could, but the EE action is to allow me to add the same code into my freeway pages. The challenge is going to be translating the code that Ryan entered directly into the EE template and making that make sense for the EE action. In other words how do I make sense and methods to use for the required code that needs to be inserted through the EE action?
Am I making sense here? Is there anywhere I can go to pick this up on my own?
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I haven’t seen the video tutorial, but the EE Tags Action is designed to allow you to enter other EE tags that are not part of the built in choices under the “Other…” option. Entering the EE tag and any parameters correctly is key.
If you put some example code up here, I (or someone else if they beat me to it) can tell you how to enter it in the EE Tags Action.
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Well without ruining the video clip, here’s a sample of how it’d work out.
{if logged_in}
<p class="summary">{body}<p>
{if:else}
{if availability == "Public"}
<p class="summary">{body}</p>
{if:else}
{embed="embeds/login"}
{/if}
{/if}
In this instance Crowbar is needed because of the customization required. Plus I use plenty of embed templates to get things done across the board as anybody who uses EE should as well.
How would this get put into the Action?
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That kind of thing does get tricky. As you probably know, if you put the Action on multiple lines, you get the
tags around each line. What I have done in cases like this are to use the Action for each instance of the {if} tag, and put the
{body}
bit in a Markup Item, and have them all on one line. The {embed} tag might end up in a Markup item as well. I don’t know if I’ve used that tag so I’m not sure off the top of my head if the Action handles it.
If someone has a better idea, I’m all ears. The problem with my method is that a) you get all the code on one line, and 2) Freeway may wrap tags you don’t want around it. I’ve worked around this, but something like Crowbar may be a better solution for this kind of case.
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Yeah, I’ve only been able to use the Crowbar with it. The only problem with that, from a super-nit-picky-side-of-things, is that it doesn’t stay indented properly in the coding side of things. Since I build my sites using the box-model the DIV’s usually get indented to the right as they get inserted, but the Crowbar…even the HTML Markup item…breaks that indentation and leaves my custom code flush left…but after that everything that is not custom entered stays indented.
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The indentation stuff is a limitation of Freeway, IIRC. I’m pretty sure FW can indent the first line correctly, but the rest drop back to the left. (It’s been a while since I’ve given this much thought, so I might be recalling details incorrectly.)
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Well it just makes for ugly code and I’m not sure as to why it hasn’t been addressed already. Even for HTML markup items they go to the left.
Seems like Softpress is on a mobile site fixation for it’s software these days (even though the re-direct action doesn’t work.) Hopefully a drift back to improving it’s core quirks would remedy some of these specific situations.
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ok, I’ve sucessfully moved my site over to EE (http://pacwestsfs.org)
I can insert many of the EE templates using their code by inserting via markup. Is this the best way to do it or should I be using Joe’s EE action?
It works by inserting markup, just don’t know if that’s making the best use of EE’s potential.
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Well, Joe’s actions are the starting point. You should also take a look at all the forms of the Crowbar action (inline, item, etc…) and you’ll also need the TagWrap action. These should all be found at the actionsforge.com site.
Joe’s action’s work well, but once you start getting into IF variables the TagWrap action + Crowbar actions work wonders. You’ll also find that the Crowbar action works better than a HTML Markup item because by inserting the HTML Markup item into inline text Freeway adds it’s own
tag. By using the inline Crowbar you don’t get the
tag.
One other action I use for EE is the “Dynamic Page Titles” as this easily allows you put custom EE tags in your page title…to show a specific article title or category heading…without specific characters getting turned into their HTML equivalents.
I look forward to seeing what you come up with using EE.
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Thanks Dan, it will be a real challenge for me as a non coder.
I’m wrapping myself around understanding how php/mysql works and trying to interpret some code.
I felt pretty good about getting the templates to work using “insert markup” but know that I’m cheating the power of EE by doing so.
But at least I have something as a fallback. I have no idea what these actions do yet…but I will!
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I want to add the following login code to my EE site using Joe’s EE tags action. Where does each part of this code go in the FW div I’ve created? Please go slow for me on this first one!
Bill
{exp:member:login_form return=“site/index”}
Username
Password
{if auto_login}
Auto-login on future visits
{/if}Show my name in the online users list
{/exp:member:login_form}
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