Really Trying not learn DreamWeaver

Hi, friends of Freeway I am really having trouble, with building my first site in freeway. It seems to look fine in Firefox 3.0 and Safari, but if i use any browser apart from these my site is all over the place. especially when viewed on a windows XP using IE6 or IE7 and Firefox.

Here is a link to what i have tried to do, you can see what happens when viewed in any xp browser.

www.danajames.co.uk/dj/index2.html

If any one has any ideas on how to sort this problem or even forward a link I would be most grateful.

Many thanks.

Tabb


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It appears you have not used layers at all. You may want to reconsider how the page is constructed to use layered objects.

Try changing the html level to XHTML Transitional.


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Layers? hmmm let me have a look on how to use layers, thanks chuck it seems like you are the only guy with the answers on here :wink:


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Even though this site has not been made with layers this wont actually cause the problems you are describing, In fact ie6 handles table based sites better than advanced CSS based sites.I wont be able to check this until tomorrow. so I cant tell what it looks like inIE 6 can you describe in detail what’s happening.

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… can you describe in detail what’s happening.

The centered background logo is shoved far right, text block that is supposed to below logo is above and right…etc.

It kind of appears to be expanding the tables in an odd way.


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I would probably need to see how this sites been built before suggesting anything
is there anywhere the Freeway artwork can be posted.

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Tabb, after taking a look at the source code again I am confused by how you applied the background image. Did you set the page background to be your logo, or did you place the logo inside something that covers the page, like a table?


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On 15 Oct 2008, 9:18 pm, chuckamuck wrote:

Tabb, after taking a look at the source code again I am confused by how you applied the background image. Did you set the page background to be your logo, or did you place the logo inside something that covers the page, like a table?

Also, which version of Freeway are you using?


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Hey Chuck, Sorry for the delay in response. Just seen all the messages, I been trying to use the tables to build the site to stop the text etc. from moving out of position. Which works quit will for Firefox 3.0 and Safari.

I have started again, this time with the CSS button ON. I can’t see a layer button to tick. I had a look at Freeway5Ref manual and looked up Layers. what i can’t seem to work out what is the best way to place these tables and add all the information into it.

Example of what your seeing on old version.

To get my 800 x 600 image in to the center i had to make the the Main page 800 x 700.

I then inserted a HTML table that covered the hole Main Stage and named it mainBodyCon.

mainBodyCon I then called in a the background image, centered, centered, Main Page centered.

My background image is now in the center of the main body container. I then inserted a another HTML box and sized it to the background image as mainCon.

With in mainCon i then inserted two HTML Boxes, 1st floating left and 2nd floating right.

and then from there on just added more HTML boxes to build up the areas of where the text and images would go. Before inserting text and and CSS Styles etc.

Hope that helps

Not sure how to build this site correctly in Freeway 5.1, ummm don’t no how to post my artwork?

Any suggestions?


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I then called in a the background image, centered, centered,

This is where some of your problems lie.

Instead of inserting the bg image like this use the paintbrush tab (Page Appearance Settings) in the page inspector to reveal the sub tab background.

This is where you can select the colour and image for the page bg - doing it this way means that it truly will remain in the bg and not affect anything above it. (You can also select in here how to position the image centering, tiling etc.)

Other problems you are having are caused by layered items covering each other when text is enlarged.

Have a look at Dans vid on the Box Model Method for tips

David


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On 15 Oct 2008, 10:04 pm, Tabb wrote:

Hey Chuck, Sorry for the delay in response. Just seen all the messages, I been trying to use the tables to build the site to stop the text etc. from moving out of position. Which works quit will for Firefox 3.0 and Safari.

There isn’t really a problem with doing a non layered (as in CSS button off) site, it’s just a bit restricted for users that have vision issues when resizing of text is necessary.

I then inserted a HTML table that covered the hole Main Stage and named it mainBodyCon.

mainBodyCon I then called in a the background image, centered, centered, Main Page centered.

Yeah, thought so. That is not going to work well if you want the background to stay centered. As Dave mentioned it will work better if you insert the background image to the page instead of the html box, also the color can be set to black to fill in when browser window is bigger than 800px. Setting the alignment to Horizontal center, and Vertical Top will give you what you need.


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Hey Guys,

I have done what you suggested and placed the background image on the main page. This was problem i was having before. http://www.danajames.co.uk/bgtest/index.html

This is the reason i done it the way i did before. Not sure what i’m gonna do as i can’t get this to work.

any suggestions?


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On 16 Oct 2008, 2:32 pm, Tabb wrote:

Hey Guys,

I have done what you suggested and placed the background image on the main page. This was problem i was having before. http://www.danajames.co.uk/bgtest/index.html

This is the reason i done it the way i did before. Not sure what i’m gonna do as i can’t get this to work.

I’m sorry, i’m confused what you are trying to say with this example. Are you saying this sample page of color boxes covers over your background image? If that is it, then simply remove color from html boxes so that background shows through.

If not…???


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lol, what im trying to show you is placing the background image on the main page, which gives me the problem that you see. Instead of placing my background image into a html box i.e a Html container which holds the children, HTML boxes whith i hence the colored HTML boxes.

Does that make seance as i’m still learning the terms. I been looking for Turorials on how to build a site using tables and containers/children and i can’t seem to find any for freeway. the tutorials they give you in the box. Is Over basic, not showing you how make text hold a position ect. hufff… and doesn’t teach you anything on the level of building a sight with Containers, floats, all that stuff i’m trying to understand and you guys probly already know. I have a template which has been designed and can’t seem to make it look what i want it to in IE6 or IE7. I think i just don’t know what I’m doing and I think I’m just feeling around in the dark.


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