Request for Peer Review requests...

I think it would be best if those asking for peer reviews could start
new threads and use unique subjects. This will help people understand
what’s being discussed.

Right now, I’ve just read a reply and I’m struggling to know what it
refers to - and we only have a handful of peer reviews on the go!
It’ll get a bit crazy if everyone just calls their new request
“Peer review”.

I’m definitely all for this sort of thing. I think it is absolutely
great that we’re talking more and looking at all sorts of new sites
at many different ability and interest levels and subjects. It’ll
just keep it all much smoother if each one starts in its own
non-generic, uniquely-named thread.

So bring 'em on!

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Sorry, Keith. I just read your post after already posting another “Peer Review”. Perhaps this is worth starting a whole new group for? I only got the idea from the recent #2 newsletter that said “why not submit your site for a peer review?” So when I came back on to freewaytalk, I expected to see a new button saying “Submit your site for review”. Just a thought.


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I think it would be best if those asking for peer reviews could start new threads and use unique subjects. This will help people understand what’s being discussed…

Or better yet, how about Walt sets up a peer review section?


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Sounds like a plan. I will have to dig out my notes, there’s a lot of
parts to coordinate between Mailman and Mailist.

Walter

On Mar 21, 2008, at 4:02 PM, chuckamuck wrote:

I think it would be best if those asking for peer reviews could
start new threads and use unique subjects. This will help people
understand what’s being discussed…

Or better yet, how about Walt sets up a peer review section?


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Walter can I just suggest something that is not relative to this
thread, would it be possible to have a link in email messages to that
relative thread. I know I find myself in a situation at times where
back tracking a thread would be handy by simply clicking a link in the
email message. :slight_smile:


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BTW, sorry for the attempted hijack.


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Sometime around 21/3/08 (at 15:48 -0400) Aaron said:

Sorry, Keith. I just read your post after already posting another
“Peer Review”. Perhaps this is worth starting a whole new group for?

Don’t worry Aaron! I think between our posts we’ve caused this to be
sorted out - or at least given due consideration. :slight_smile:

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That’s something we talked about, but there’s really no way to manage
it. The Web side of things is best described as a peer of all the
other members of the mailing list. The Web is “subscribed” to the
mailing list, and reads all the traffic. Some of the list mail is
sent from the Web interface, and yes, certainly I could add a footer
with a link to the thread in all messages sent that way. But a good
portion of it is sent by individuals who rarely if ever read the Web,
and use only e-mail for their correspondence with the list. There’s
no way at all to get that footer into those messages, because they
arrive at your in-box and the Web interface at the same time.

Walter

On Mar 21, 2008, at 4:19 PM, Mike B wrote:

Walter can I just suggest something that is not relative to this
thread, would it be possible to have a link in email messages to that
relative thread. I know I find myself in a situation at times where
back tracking a thread would be handy by simply clicking a link in the
email message. :slight_smile:


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It is a shame that the message could not be added to the database then
the thread id added to the messages before the emails go out. One
thing that I find really annoying, you have a message and want to
follow the thread back but then in some cases it’s a little like
looking for a needle in a hay stack, well not quite but it can take
some work to get to the thread.

Cheers
Mike

On Mar 22, 2008, at 3:26 AM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

That’s something we talked about, but there’s really no way to manage
it. The Web side of things is best described as a peer of all the
other members of the mailing list. The Web is “subscribed” to the
mailing list, and reads all the traffic. Some of the list mail is
sent from the Web interface, and yes, certainly I could add a footer
with a link to the thread in all messages sent that way. But a good
portion of it is sent by individuals who rarely if ever read the Web,
and use only e-mail for their correspondence with the list. There’s
no way at all to get that footer into those messages, because they
arrive at your in-box and the Web interface at the same time.

Walter


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Are you referring to in your e-mail, or on the Web? If the latter,
then I’m surprised you say that, because everything is threaded
there. If the former, then do this:

  1. Filter your list mail into a separate in-box.
  2. Turn on message threading in your mail client.

It’s really that easy, and you end up with much better context and
sense of the conversation. I also find I am much less likely to
answer an question that’s been already answered. Otherwise, it’s like
the difference between IRC and iChat – like trying to carry on
several conversations at the same time in a football crowd vs. a
quiet conversation over coffee.

Walter

On Mar 22, 2008, at 4:15 AM, Mike B wrote:

It is a shame that the message could not be added to the database then
the thread id added to the messages before the emails go out. One
thing that I find really annoying, you have a message and want to
follow the thread back but then in some cases it’s a little like
looking for a needle in a hay stack, well not quite but it can take
some work to get to the thread.

Cheers
Mike


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I mean on the web, maybe when wanting to go back to a thread or to the
start of a thread or even to read through a thread.

I know what you mean about storing the messages but to be honest I
have too many emails that come in and I need to store, as it is that I
have over 50 mail folders. I have always worked on the basis of
keeping what I know I will need in the future, having another mailbox
and storing thousands of messages because I can’t just link to the
thread on a system that has a web interface available seems a little
bit of an overkill, maybe just used to phpBB… I know Freeway talk is
not a forum as such but…

What you have done is really great, but the link to the thread on the
web for me is the only main drawback, it might not seem logical to
some but it is to me.

Such is life I guess :slight_smile:

On Mar 22, 2008, at 4:28 PM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

Are you referring to in your e-mail, or on the Web? If the latter,
then I’m surprised you say that, because everything is threaded
there. If the former, then do this:

  1. Filter your list mail into a separate in-box.
  2. Turn on message threading in your mail client.

It’s really that easy, and you end up with much better context and
sense of the conversation. I also find I am much less likely to
answer an question that’s been already answered. Otherwise, it’s like
the difference between IRC and iChat – like trying to carry on
several conversations at the same time in a football crowd vs. a
quiet conversation over coffee.

Walter

On Mar 22, 2008, at 4:15 AM, Mike B wrote:

It is a shame that the message could not be added to the database
then
the thread id added to the messages before the emails go out. One
thing that I find really annoying, you have a message and want to
follow the thread back but then in some cases it’s a little like
looking for a needle in a hay stack, well not quite but it can take
some work to get to the thread.

Cheers
Mike


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So you are looking through your e-mail, hit on a message that you
would like to see in context, and want to somehow get back to it on
the Web so you can see the entire thread?

I know that I could do that if the message in question was either
started from or commented on by someone on the Web. But there are
threads which entirely bypass the Web, where the Web is just an
archive of the results of an entire conversation undertaken through e-
mail.

I’ll give it some more thought, but I am inclined to say that it’s
not going to be universal. It would work some of the time, but not
always.

Walter

PS: The search engine on the Web forum is so amazingly good, that I
would encourage you to try this trick next time: in the e-mail in
question, copy a short string of words, something fairly unique; next
switch to the Web, and from the home page (since that searches all
fora) or from any page in the particular forum where the message was
posted, enter that string in the search field surrounded by quotes.
You will probably hit the thread fairly squarely.

On Mar 22, 2008, at 11:56 AM, Mike B wrote:

What you have done is really great, but the link to the thread on the
web for me is the only main drawback, it might not seem logical to
some but it is to me.


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On Mar 22, 2008, at 5:23 PM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

So you are looking through your e-mail, hit on a message that you
would like to see in context, and want to somehow get back to it on
the Web so you can see the entire thread?

That’s about it.

I know that I could do that if the message in question was either
started from or commented on by someone on the Web. But there are
threads which entirely bypass the Web, where the Web is just an
archive of the results of an entire conversation undertaken through e-
mail.

I’ll give it some more thought, but I am inclined to say that it’s
not going to be universal. It would work some of the time, but not
always.

Well you know how the system works, if you say it’s not possible to
integrate properly then fine, but I can’t help but feel whatever can
be offered may be better although the linked id in each message
would be the ultimate.

Walter

PS: The search engine on the Web forum is so amazingly good, that I
would encourage you to try this trick next time: in the e-mail in
question, copy a short string of words, something fairly unique; next
switch to the Web, and from the home page (since that searches all
fora) or from any page in the particular forum where the message was
posted, enter that string in the search field surrounded by quotes.
You will probably hit the thread fairly squarely.

Yes but it is something/process that then needs to be done for
something that a link in the email would remove the need for.

Thanks for giving it some thought.
Mike

On Mar 22, 2008, at 11:56 AM, Mike B wrote:

What you have done is really great, but the link to the thread on the
web for me is the only main drawback, it might not seem logical to
some but it is to me.


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