Resizing a group of objects

In MacDraw when I grab a handle to resize a grouped set of text objects (each comprising a single character), their positioning gets changed, but the text characters maintain their original size.

In Intaglio, the text characters get stretched just as if they were graphic objects.

Is there a way to get Intaglio to behave like MacDraw in this respect? Or is this due to a fundamental change from Quickdraw to Quartz which cannot be avoided?


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Not sure I can follow you. Do you have shift-key on when scaling with the selection tool? It worked on grouped text elements as well as on selected text elements by changing the font size at the text inspector. At least here with v3.4.4 on SnowLeopard.

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Thanks. Try this:

Using the Text tool, place a few letters in different locations on the page (each letter must be a separate object).

Group them

Select the group

Drag a resize handle

Notice: The letters will be scaled. Is it possible to have the letters moved while not being scaled?


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Select all objects with shift key down or draw rectangle with selection tool around all objects - click onto selection and drag. This don´t work for you?


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I’m trying to change (stretch) the relative positions of the letters, so I have to group the selection first.

If I do what you suggest I can only drag the handle of one of the objects. And that rescales it too.


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Why you use the handles at all for moving - I´m not getting what you´re after.


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I want to preserve the relative spacing between the letters, but just over a larger distance. I don’t simply want to move them.


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Kerning?


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No. Kerning applies to the spacing between letters in a single string. I’m taking about expanding or contracting the space between a set of objects which in this case happens to comprise letters.


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If MacDraw handles it that way it sounds like a bug to me - I mean scale the whole thing or nothing - but text flips back in it´s original size after scaling? Seriously? Maybe you can benefit from Intaglios Align&Distribute function:

Still not sure how to help any further.

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Hi Frank,

Many thanks for jumping in on this thread. Maybe you are right that it is a bug, however, it was very convenient for me because I used it to adjust musical scores that I create with an application that I programmed (it creates PICT files). Occasionally the staff on which the letters (notes) are placed is too long or too short. so I change it’s length and all the letters (notes and other objects) move in proportion to the adjustment - the letters don’t actually change in size. The Align and Distribute function can’t do this.

OK, on to something else.

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Miles


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Is this what you’re trying to achieve?

http://postimg.org/image/qqn98lxqj/

  1. Select the objects with the Selection tool.
  2. Go to Object>Scale and enter the desired amount.

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No - he wants repositioning without scaling.
I find align+distribute will do it; stretching is in one go. Compressing can take a few steps:
http://s24.postimg.org/ok972vuit/Aligning.png

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Thanks Frank.
I had tried align+distribute but it aligns all the objects equally across the span. I need to preserve the relative distances between them.

By the way, how would I include an image with this posting?

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Miles


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It depends how often you need to do this but If you use

Object > Scale ...

so you know the factor used to scale the original items by factor X you could write a script to scale the font size of each selected object by 1/X.

Obviously you should consult this table first:

http://xkcd.com/1205/

Charles


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cdhw: love the cartoon. The time saving routines will no doubt be dreamed up by ‘consultants’ who charge enormous amounts of money for their ‘expertise’.

You can get the proportional spacing by reducing the size of the font. See the attachment:
http://postimg.org/image/91brbt5wb/

To upload pictures, save a file as a JPEG and in the Finder, add ‘.jpg’ to the filename. In an image hosting site such as postimage.org, click the ‘Browse’ button and select the JPEG. When the upload has completed, copy the address. In the forum, paste the address.


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