roll over trouble

my goal is to create a red square as the normal item and have a green square with words as the mouse over. I have made the words as a GIF but can not seem to combine the green square with the words as the roll over… thanks for your patience with this neophyte


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Did you try grouping the green square and the words to make a single object?


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Sometime around 15/1/08 (at 16:16 -0500) shybuckstudio said:

my goal is to create a red square as the normal item and have a
green square with words as the mouse over. I have made the words as
a GIF but can not seem to combine the green square with the words as
the roll over… thanks for your patience with this neophyte

The problem is probably because your objects are layered. This makes
them ‘float’, in a sense, in the page layout, and the top one won’t
be able to connect with the one below it in order to use it as part
of the rollover construction.

There are two ways around this…

The first is simply to UNcheckthe ‘Layer’ checkbox in the Inspector
palette. Do this for both items, then apply the Rollover action. You
should now be able to pick which item is visible for each state from
the Actions palette.

But if you want your rollover to be managed within a layer (i.e. a
CSS-controllable ‘div’ element) rather than be made as part of a
background table structure, select both items - drag-select across
them both is easiest - and choose Group from the Item menu. This
wraps the items in a new HTML box container. This can be set to be a
‘floating’ layer, but the two items inside can still be set to NOT be
layered. That allows them to act together in a rollover.
This object now takes a little practise in moving around. Just a
little mind you - but note that clicking inside it will select the
top-most object inside the group, not the ‘parent’ group object
itself. To do that you have to click on the edge of the thing -
that’s what to grab and drag. Or nudge with the arrow keys.

Okay, next step… the graphic text. You DID make this in Freeway,
right? That’s so much quicker and more flexible than greating an
actual graphic document first and importing it. I just mention this
because you said you ‘made the words as a GIF’…

And BTW, there’s a nice trick for editing text in boxes if you’ve
stacked items together. Rather than dragging your stack apart to
select something lower down, hold down the Command (Apple) and Option
(Alt) keys and click. Each successive click selects the next-lower
item. Look at the Inspector palette to see which item is selected;
the fill colour often helps reveal this.
Once you’ve selected your graphic box below the top one, hit the
Enter key. This ‘opens’ the selected item, switching it to text
editing mode. Just type, or choose Select All first to select
existing text.

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thanks thatkeith, something is still wrong and I can’t seem to find the devil in the details. I have a red square. I have a green square grouped with gif text(made in freeway).I can’t seem to apply a roll over action . I want the green square with text to be the roll over. I do want this all to be CSS controllable. I can’t seem to make this roll over happen.


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Sometime around 15/1/08 (at 20:51 -0500) shybuckstudio said:

I have a red square. I have a green square grouped with gif
text(made in freeway).I can’t seem to apply a roll over action . I
want the green square with text to be the roll over.

Strange! Although - the items are both layered, right?
And have you grouped them together? Don’t start by grouping your
green square with a separate text box first, just stack everything
together and group that. AND make sure all items inside the group are
NOT layered. (The layer object itself - the ‘parent’ - can be
grouped.)

Start making this again from scratch and see if it helps at all…

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On 16 Jan 2008, at 01:51, shybuckstudio wrote:

thanks thatkeith, something is still wrong and I can’t seem to find
the devil in the details. I have a red square. I have a green
square grouped with gif text(made in freeway).I can’t seem to apply
a roll over action . I want the green square with text to be the
roll over. I do want this all to be CSS controllable. I can’t seem
to make this roll over happen.

You might find it easier if you made the green square with the text
already inside it, rather than being two separate bits. You could
type inside the green square, group it with the red square, then
apply the rollover action?

best wishes

Paul Bradforth

http://www.paulbradforth.com


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I know this seems obvious, but have you checked that the right images
are ticked under ‘Mouse Over’ in the Actions/Rollover palette? If you
have been chopping and changing the originals, your original selection
may have been lost and both the square and the text need to be
‘ticked’ to show, with the text as the topmost on the page.

Colin

On 16 Jan 2008, at 01:51, shybuckstudio wrote:

thanks thatkeith, something is still wrong and I can’t seem to find
the devil in the details.


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thanks so much to all of you…I’m clebrating,the roll over works!

Now …the text on the mouseover I want to appear on a black banner that is already on the page.
But this won’t happen. The text hides under the banner. I try to move the banner back no luck. I unlock the banner and it becomes a roll over perticipant.

again thanks you so much for your help


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Do you want your original rollover to trigger the text on the banner?

This can be done by using the show/hide layer action on a layer over the banner initially hidden with same trigger as the rollover nominally indigo.

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yes Dave, I want the text to show on top of the banner when mouse goes over the square. Do I apply the show/hide laction to the already " actioned" roll over?


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No - create a layer item that contains the text that you want to show and apply the action to that.

Then select the same trigger that you have used in your rollover - I think the default is indigo.
Make sure you select - initially hidden in slave show/hide.

On your rollover select the mouseover number that corresponds to the one of the slave show/hide - normally 1

Good luck

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thanks very much Dave…


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