Rollovers on top of graphic items?

Colin Thanks allot i will put this stuff to use today . I know I can buy these features but I would really like to build them myself. Everyone here has been extremely helpful I am really pleased that I found this site .

Thanks to all the users for there continuing help.

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Hi I Did all of the above but when I go to the next picture and drag it on top of the next one I cannot find the last one I did . Do you have to click the stack button I tried that as well and no results. The stack is the only trouble I am having.


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The professional way is to use the site panel on the left of your
screen. Click on the disclosure triangle to reveal every item on the
page and click on the required item to select it. It you’ve included
the item number in each image name it should be easy to tally it with
its thumbnail.

Alternatively, my way is to offset the pictures in the stack as I
build it, leaving an edge to select each one. If you keep the images
in numerical order in the stack you should easily find the one you
need. When everything works, align all the images.

If you later want to change an image in the middle of the stack,
select it from the site panel, nudge it a few pixels to one side then
select and double click in the current image and ‘Locate’ the new
image. Realign when you’re done.

Hope that helps

Colin

On 23 Jan 2008, at 18:42, Brian Gideon wrote:

Hi I Did all of the above but when I go to the next picture and drag
it on top of the next one I cannot find the last one I did . Do you
have to click the stack button I tried that as well and no results.
The stack is the only trouble I am having.


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Sometime around 23/1/08 (at 20:06 +0000) Colin Alcock said:

use the site panel on the left of your
screen. Click on the disclosure triangle to reveal every item on the
page and click on the required item to select it.

Alternatively, my way is to offset the pictures in the stack as I
build it, leaving an edge to select each one.

There’s also the command-option-click trick…
Hold down the Command (Apple) and Option (Alt) keys, then click the
stack - and click again. Each click will drill down through the
layers. You can see which one is selected by checking that’s reported
in the Inspector palette, or by watching the Site panel when it is in
page item display mode.

If you have text graphics and need to edit the text, just hit the
Enter key to step into text editing mode for the current selected
item.

(I just checked, and the Return key does the same job of opening the
item for text editing. BUT hitting the Enter key again closes it,
whereas hitting the Return key puts a carraige return into the text.
Many people don’t realise that the Return and Enter keys are not
one and the same thing. In some apps they may act the same, but they
produce different signals when hit, and many apps make use of this
difference. Worth noting.)

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What is the standard size page for overall internet capability, I have my pages set at 850 wide by 900, I would like to make it taller would that create a problem or just make it so you would have to scroll more to see all my items. I have been working on the isuues above and so far it’s working really well . I will keep everyone posted Thanks …

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Yes ,Keith, I often use this for changing text, especially in
rollovers. Thought it might confuse Brian to introduce a third option
when it’s an image solution he needs for the moment. It’s a trick he
should learn, though.

Colin

On 23 Jan 2008, at 20:16, Keith Martin wrote:

There’s also the command-option-click trick…


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Brian

There have been discussions before on this topic and don’t think there
is any agreed ‘standard’. It all depends on which browser is used for
viewing and whether it’s set for full screen or just a reduced pane
(or even pain, on a PC!) on the desktop. In general, keeping important
content within a width of 750 pixels should be OK for most modern
monitors, but you can ‘decorate’ beyond that.

As to length I suggest you get your main message in the top 400
pixels, as most folk are quite happy to scroll down once they are
enticed to read on. Avoid long lines of typematter, though, that may
involve scrolling back and forth sideways. (Wrap at about 15 words for
readability).

Colin

On 23 Jan 2008, at 21:20, Brian Gideon wrote:

What is the standard size page for overall internet capability, I
have my pages set at 850 wide by 900, I would like to make it
taller would that create a problem or just make it so you would have
to scroll more to see all my items. I have been working on the
isuues above and so far it’s working really well . I will keep
everyone posted Thanks …

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Okay I built The page, Thumbnails and slaves everything looks pretty good so far . But when I preview the page 1) the slave image is not there until i rollover the first thumbnail image 2) the picture in the layered slave is not the same size as on my work page. It is the same way on the browser page and in the preview page, not the size I see on my working page. ( also the graphics are not nearly as clear as my original photos on the work page. I am always looking for the solution before I come her but I am sure most of us run into the same type of issues.
Sorry for the lack of good english , I can speak better than I can write…Thanks

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No problems with the English. Believe me, there are local folk who
don’t write as well as you - including me, sometimes! So where are you
from?

Is it possible for us to see the site as far as you have got? If so,
post the URL, including the http:// at the beginning.

To have your first ‘slave’ image show, make sure the picture you want
so show when the page loads is at the bottom of the stack and change
the parameter in the Action pane for’ Initially: Hidden’ to
‘Initially: Visible’ and disable the rollover for the thumbnail. All
other slaves will appear over it.

Alternatively, you can add a base graphic with additional information
(such as an instruction to move the mouse over the thumbnails).

As to size of images, are you referring to size relative to you
monitor screen or to the web page you are producing? If the first,
click ‘View’ in the Menu Bar, then ‘Zoom’ and check that this is set
to 100%.

Colin

On 24 Jan 2008, at 19:07, Brian Gideon wrote:

Okay I built The page, Thumbnails and slaves everything looks
pretty good so far . But when I preview the page 1) the slave image
is not there until i rollover the first thumbnail image 2) the
picture in the layered slave is not the same size as on my work
page. It is the same way on the browser page and in the preview
page, not the size I see on my working page. ( also the graphics are
not nearly as clear as my original photos on the work page. I am
always looking for the solution before I come her but I am sure most
of us run into the same type of issues.
Sorry for the lack of good english , I can speak better than I can
write…Thanks


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Colin thanks for the help you have been great. Her is my site now Not the new one but my original one that was built in front page and is currently published . The problem is I have to use parallels to get to it on my new macs and that’s a drag. www.signaturemotorcars.com I will keep you posted on my progress, One more thing… Is it a big deal to have a page that is as long as you need against one that is a specific length. I just can’t seem to fit everything on my vehicle pages that I would like. I know you would have to scroll a bit but I noticed on most sites you have to do the same thing.


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Sometime around 25/1/08 (at 18:37 -0500) Brian Gideon said:

www.signaturemotorcars.com

Just a small suggestion: always put the http:// protocol in front of
your URLs when you put them in messages. This ensures they are made
as clickable links wherever they are seen.

I will keep you posted on my progress, One more thing… Is it a
big deal to have a page that is as long as you need against one that
is a specific length.

Not really. Make sure that important stuff is put ‘above the fold’,
where people see it without having to scroll.

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thanks I never knew that …


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Hi guys it’s just me Is there a picture ratio that works better than others . For example I noticed that I crop my pictures to 700px by 480px and they seem a little squat. I am not sure if it is just that picture or all of them ??? but befroe I duplicat this templet 20 Times I really need to get it right…
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A couple more pointers for you, Brian

Hi guys it’s just me Is there a picture ratio that works better than
others .

Picture ratios of many digital cameras a are either 3:2 or 4:3. Then
widescreen TV can be 16:9. What makes them look right is usually the
composition within the frame. As you deal in cars, a wider format will
suit the subject and take less vertical space, which is at a premium.

Is it a big deal to have a page that is as long as you need against
one that is a specific length. I just can’t seem to fit everything
on my vehicle pages that I would like.

Keith as already answered this one, but if you do have a scrolling
page, the top of your page will disappear upwards. So, if you have
your slave images at the top that could present a problem. You could
try breaking your slave stacks into, say, two groups of ten or four
groups of five, at different places down the page. The images that
show on loading could be your ‘featured cars of the week’ - at
different price levels to appeal to different customers.

Otherwise you could break your site into two or three pages with a
link button to take you forward and back through the site. Different
pages could also be customer focused to different model types or price
levels.

There are other, more complex ways around this, but get used to what
you can do first. After you’ve made you next million bucks, you may be
ready to employ an expert - or better still, retire to some Hawaiian
island!!

Colin


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At 19:21 -0500 25/1/08, Brian Gideon wrote:

Hi guys it’s just me Is there a picture ratio that works better than
others . For example I noticed that I crop my pictures to 700px by
480px and they seem a little squat. I am not sure if it is just that
picture or all of them ??? but befroe I duplicat this
templet 20 Times I really need to get it right…

According to the Greeks, the ratio should be 1 : 1.6180339887…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio

David


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Brian, as long as we’re going on about your site, hope you don’t mind a little more input?

Main things…

When jumping into the rest of the site (off the inventory page) I was put off that each individual page had an entirely different layout and navigations. One very simple beauty of Freeway is in the Master Page - a universal, top down palette for consistency throughout a site from page to page. Maybe it’s just a matter of taste though…

The other big thing was using target_blank for links (which forces the browser to open another window to display the linked page). The user ends up with a ton of windows open all over their desktop. IMHO, this is like getting “spammed” - a more friendly design is to reload the new page in the current window.

Little stuff…

Why is the “colors” type is larger than the rest on the inventory page especially when one can see the color? I should think the model/year is more important…

Small, dark blue type on a black background is very hard to read.

All just opinions…YMMV.


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