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Good Afternoon,

quick question - I am using the scripty accordion w a site. IT was asked by my client that could we click on a header to close it after we open it - so that all headers are closed? if not is there another action that would allow that to happen?

Thank you

Julie

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This example page shows that with the action settings. http://www.deltadzine.net/accordion_v.html

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Thank you but a funny thing is happening - when clicking on the “headers” ,which I changed to p from H3, the youtube video is the thing that disappears and re appears…

what is conflicting and what can I do to fix it?
Thanks
J

ps I uploaded to a separate file so that it does not effect the main site - http://www.grassrootsweb.net/nicole

On Feb 6, 2010, at 7:36 PM, DeltaDave wrote:

This example page shows that with the action settings. http://www.deltadzine.net/accordion_v.html

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Good morning,

I Changed the settings for my accordion - so that you can click a topic and it will close. but a funny thing is happening - when clicking on the “headers” ,which I changed to p from H3, the youtube video is the thing that disappears and re appears…

I uploaded to a separate file so that it does not effect the main site - http://www.grassrootsweb.net/nicole
what is conflicting and what can I do to fix it?

Thank you very much for your help

J

On Feb 6, 2010, at 7:36 PM, DeltaDave wrote:

This example page shows that with the action settings. http://www.deltadzine.net/accordion_v.html

David

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You cannot use the same tag for the headers as the body. If you want
to use a P for the header, then you have to use something else for the
body of each element, and Freeway makes that extremely difficult to do.

I recommend that you create a new style of h3 (or h4 or any other
semantic header) that is styled to appear the way you want rather than
trying to use a P tag instead of a header. These two tags have
distinctly different meanings to the Web browser (and to the Web in
general) and should not be used as stylistic differences but rather as
a way to clearly communicate your intention.

You can turn off the default bold of an H tag by using the Extended
button in the Edit Style dialog and by adding these name/value pairs:

font-weight	normal
font-style	normal

in the H tag of your choice. To start this process, open the New Style
dialog, choose h3 or h4 or similar from the pull-down Tag menu/
combobox, then enter some name you will recognize, like accordion in
the Name field.

Add the font and size information you desire using the regular (+)
controls, then click the Extended button and then the New button
within the Extended dialog, then add the first name/value pair, then
Okay, then New again, then the second name/value pair.

Okay out of the stack of dialogs, and type a new line of text as a
sample header. Triple-click that line (to select the entire thing,
including the newline at the end) and then click once on the new style
you created (it will appear as something like h3.accordion in your
Styles palette) to apply it. This is a block-level tag, so you can’t
apply it to individual words within a run of text. (Freeway will warn
you about that as well.)

Now try the Accordion the way it was built, and you should have a much
easier time with it.

Also, since you are sticking the YouTube content in there – please
note that not all browsers properly hide Flash content through CSS,
preferring instead to let it “bleed” right through your page and
display anyway.

BEFORE you show this to your client, pop over to the nearest Windows
PC with an open internet connection (public library, cyber-cafe,
BestBuy or Costco) and see how it works in person. Don’t be lulled
into using the popular screen-grab test systems; with the exception of
the über-expensive BrowserCam, they will not be able to show you how
this works for real, since they don’t render JavaScript or Flash.

Walter

On Feb 8, 2010, at 8:41 AM, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:

Good morning,

I Changed the settings for my accordion - so that you can click a
topic and it will close. but a funny thing is happening - when
clicking on the “headers” ,which I changed to p from H3, the
youtube video is the thing that disappears and re appears…

I uploaded to a separate file so that it does not effect the main
site - http://www.grassrootsweb.net/nicole
what is conflicting and what can I do to fix it?

Thank you very much for your help

J

On Feb 6, 2010, at 7:36 PM, DeltaDave wrote:

This example page shows that with the action settings. http://www.deltadzine.net/accordion_v.html

David

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Walter,

Thank you I will do this… when I do this - will I be able to click the item closed too? That “feature” in the accordian is what has been requested by the client

Julie
On Feb 8, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

You cannot use the same tag for the headers as the body. If you want to use a P for the header, then you have to use something else for the body of each element, and Freeway makes that extremely difficult to do.

I recommend that you create a new style of h3 (or h4 or any other semantic header) that is styled to appear the way you want rather than trying to use a P tag instead of a header. These two tags have distinctly different meanings to the Web browser (and to the Web in general) and should not be used as stylistic differences but rather as a way to clearly communicate your intention.

You can turn off the default bold of an H tag by using the Extended button in the Edit Style dialog and by adding these name/value pairs:

font-weight normal
font-style normal

in the H tag of your choice. To start this process, open the New Style dialog, choose h3 or h4 or similar from the pull-down Tag menu/combobox, then enter some name you will recognize, like accordion in the Name field.

Add the font and size information you desire using the regular (+) controls, then click the Extended button and then the New button within the Extended dialog, then add the first name/value pair, then Okay, then New again, then the second name/value pair.

Okay out of the stack of dialogs, and type a new line of text as a sample header. Triple-click that line (to select the entire thing, including the newline at the end) and then click once on the new style you created (it will appear as something like h3.accordion in your Styles palette) to apply it. This is a block-level tag, so you can’t apply it to individual words within a run of text. (Freeway will warn you about that as well.)

Now try the Accordion the way it was built, and you should have a much easier time with it.

Also, since you are sticking the YouTube content in there – please note that not all browsers properly hide Flash content through CSS, preferring instead to let it “bleed” right through your page and display anyway.

BEFORE you show this to your client, pop over to the nearest Windows PC with an open internet connection (public library, cyber-cafe, BestBuy or Costco) and see how it works in person. Don’t be lulled into using the popular screen-grab test systems; with the exception of the über-expensive BrowserCam, they will not be able to show you how this works for real, since they don’t render JavaScript or Flash.

Walter

On Feb 8, 2010, at 8:41 AM, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:

Good morning,

I Changed the settings for my accordion - so that you can click a topic and it will close. but a funny thing is happening - when clicking on the “headers” ,which I changed to p from H3, the youtube video is the thing that disappears and re appears…

I uploaded to a separate file so that it does not effect the main site - http://www.grassrootsweb.net/nicole
what is conflicting and what can I do to fix it?

Thank you very much for your help

J

On Feb 6, 2010, at 7:36 PM, DeltaDave wrote:

This example page shows that with the action settings. http://www.deltadzine.net/accordion_v.html

David

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No, you would need to use a different accordion system, or a separate
“close everything” header (with just an empty paragraph following it)
to trigger that behavior. In my Action, the click on a header always
opens the content below it, or does nothing if the content is already
open.

You can build an accordion that does what you want using the normal
Freeway FX Actions. There’s an example on the Softpress site with
directions and everything. Using the FX Actions, you can build an
accordion that does anything you want, but you will have to apply a
separate Action to each header and each content body item, and
configure all of them to work together.

My Action was designed to solve a particular use-case with as few
configuration options as possible – simplicity of use through feature
removal!

Walter

On Feb 8, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Julie Maxwell wrote:

Walter,

Thank you I will do this… when I do this - will I be able to click
the item closed too? That “feature” in the accordian is what has
been requested by the client

Julie
On Feb 8, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

You cannot use the same tag for the headers as the body. If you
want to use a P for the header, then you have to use something else
for the body of each element, and Freeway makes that extremely
difficult to do.

I recommend that you create a new style of h3 (or h4 or any other
semantic header) that is styled to appear the way you want rather
than trying to use a P tag instead of a header. These two tags have
distinctly different meanings to the Web browser (and to the Web in
general) and should not be used as stylistic differences but rather
as a way to clearly communicate your intention.

You can turn off the default bold of an H tag by using the Extended
button in the Edit Style dialog and by adding these name/value pairs:

font-weight normal
font-style normal

in the H tag of your choice. To start this process, open the New
Style dialog, choose h3 or h4 or similar from the pull-down Tag
menu/combobox, then enter some name you will recognize, like
accordion in the Name field.

Add the font and size information you desire using the regular (+)
controls, then click the Extended button and then the New button
within the Extended dialog, then add the first name/value pair,
then Okay, then New again, then the second name/value pair.

Okay out of the stack of dialogs, and type a new line of text as a
sample header. Triple-click that line (to select the entire thing,
including the newline at the end) and then click once on the new
style you created (it will appear as something like h3.accordion in
your Styles palette) to apply it. This is a block-level tag, so you
can’t apply it to individual words within a run of text. (Freeway
will warn you about that as well.)

Now try the Accordion the way it was built, and you should have a
much easier time with it.

Also, since you are sticking the YouTube content in there – please
note that not all browsers properly hide Flash content through CSS,
preferring instead to let it “bleed” right through your page and
display anyway.

BEFORE you show this to your client, pop over to the nearest
Windows PC with an open internet connection (public library, cyber-
cafe, BestBuy or Costco) and see how it works in person. Don’t be
lulled into using the popular screen-grab test systems; with the
exception of the über-expensive BrowserCam, they will not be able
to show you how this works for real, since they don’t render
JavaScript or Flash.

Walter

On Feb 8, 2010, at 8:41 AM, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:

Good morning,

I Changed the settings for my accordion - so that you can click a
topic and it will close. but a funny thing is happening - when
clicking on the “headers” ,which I changed to p from H3, the
youtube video is the thing that disappears and re appears…

I uploaded to a separate file so that it does not effect the main
site - http://www.grassrootsweb.net/nicole
what is conflicting and what can I do to fix it?

Thank you very much for your help

J

On Feb 6, 2010, at 7:36 PM, DeltaDave wrote:

This example page shows that with the action settings. http://www.deltadzine.net/accordion_v.html

David

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Thank you -
I love your action btw - I use it all the time.

Julie
On Feb 8, 2010, at 11:57 AM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

No, you would need to use a different accordion system, or a separate “close everything” header (with just an empty paragraph following it) to trigger that behavior. In my Action, the click on a header always opens the content below it, or does nothing if the content is already open.

You can build an accordion that does what you want using the normal Freeway FX Actions. There’s an example on the Softpress site with directions and everything. Using the FX Actions, you can build an accordion that does anything you want, but you will have to apply a separate Action to each header and each content body item, and configure all of them to work together.

My Action was designed to solve a particular use-case with as few configuration options as possible – simplicity of use through feature removal!

Walter

On Feb 8, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Julie Maxwell wrote:

Walter,

Thank you I will do this… when I do this - will I be able to click the item closed too? That “feature” in the accordian is what has been requested by the client

Julie
On Feb 8, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

You cannot use the same tag for the headers as the body. If you want to use a P for the header, then you have to use something else for the body of each element, and Freeway makes that extremely difficult to do.

I recommend that you create a new style of h3 (or h4 or any other semantic header) that is styled to appear the way you want rather than trying to use a P tag instead of a header. These two tags have distinctly different meanings to the Web browser (and to the Web in general) and should not be used as stylistic differences but rather as a way to clearly communicate your intention.

You can turn off the default bold of an H tag by using the Extended button in the Edit Style dialog and by adding these name/value pairs:

font-weight normal
font-style normal

in the H tag of your choice. To start this process, open the New Style dialog, choose h3 or h4 or similar from the pull-down Tag menu/combobox, then enter some name you will recognize, like accordion in the Name field.

Add the font and size information you desire using the regular (+) controls, then click the Extended button and then the New button within the Extended dialog, then add the first name/value pair, then Okay, then New again, then the second name/value pair.

Okay out of the stack of dialogs, and type a new line of text as a sample header. Triple-click that line (to select the entire thing, including the newline at the end) and then click once on the new style you created (it will appear as something like h3.accordion in your Styles palette) to apply it. This is a block-level tag, so you can’t apply it to individual words within a run of text. (Freeway will warn you about that as well.)

Now try the Accordion the way it was built, and you should have a much easier time with it.

Also, since you are sticking the YouTube content in there – please note that not all browsers properly hide Flash content through CSS, preferring instead to let it “bleed” right through your page and display anyway.

BEFORE you show this to your client, pop over to the nearest Windows PC with an open internet connection (public library, cyber-cafe, BestBuy or Costco) and see how it works in person. Don’t be lulled into using the popular screen-grab test systems; with the exception of the über-expensive BrowserCam, they will not be able to show you how this works for real, since they don’t render JavaScript or Flash.

Walter

On Feb 8, 2010, at 8:41 AM, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:

Good morning,

I Changed the settings for my accordion - so that you can click a topic and it will close. but a funny thing is happening - when clicking on the “headers” ,which I changed to p from H3, the youtube video is the thing that disappears and re appears…

I uploaded to a separate file so that it does not effect the main site - http://www.grassrootsweb.net/nicole
what is conflicting and what can I do to fix it?

Thank you very much for your help

J

On Feb 6, 2010, at 7:36 PM, DeltaDave wrote:

This example page shows that with the action settings. http://www.deltadzine.net/accordion_v.html

David

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