Scripty Accordion and WebYep

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Hi all, does anyone know if there’s any way of getting a Scripty Accordion type effect in a WebYep long text box?

In the example the client would like each purple header to expand down to show a bit of explanatory text.

Thanks in advance.
Trev

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As long as your client honors the choice of tags (and the RTE allows you to enter them) then yes, this should be completely easy. The key is to structure your content the way that the Accordion effect expects it. Note that there are limitations to the formatting allowed that may make this difficult for certain types of content. But for a simple FAQ format, you could do something like this:

<h3>What is the question?</h3>
<p>This is the answer, it goes on for a while here.</p>
<h3>What is the question?</h3>
<p>This is the answer, it goes on for a while here.</p>
<h3>What is the question?</h3>
<p>This is the answer, it goes on for a while here.</p>
<h3>What is the question?</h3>
<p>This is the answer, it goes on for a while here.</p>

When you apply ScriptyAccordion to the parent box containing this HTML structure, you configure it to treat the H3 tag as the header, and the P tag as the disclosure element. As long as you or your client ONLY ever insert one H3 followed by one P with the answer for each question, then you can edit the entire text block as a single thing in the RTE. (Of course, this presupposes that the RTE in WY can create an H3 tag as part of its normal editing.)

There is nothing hard-and-fast about the preceding construction per se. The only important rule in SA is that the header and the disclosed element must be two different content types. As long as WY’s RTE can create two different textual HTML tags, you should be all set.

Finally, you can create a set of CSS styles for this element that override the native browser display of Hn tags (say if you didn’t want the font to be bold, or a different size, or if you wanted the colors or cursor behavior to be different). It’s important that you train your editors to ignore how the layout looks while you are editing, and switch over to the published view to see how it really works. If you add styling through Freeway’s Inspector or through the RTE’s WYSIWYG editor, you may break the effect entirely.

Walter

On Feb 24, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Trevreav wrote:

Hi all, does anyone know if there’s any way of getting a Scripty Accordion type effect in a WebYep long text box?

In the example the client would like each purple header to expand down to show a bit of explanatory text.

Thanks in advance.
Trev

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Hi Walter, thanks for that.

I think I’m getting somewhere. I’m not using a rich text edtor in WebYep, just using the commands for the typestyles from Freeway, so the first heading on the page looks like this:

<h3.INTRO18> Investment & Wealth Management</h3.INTRO18>
<p.SMALLBODY12 Portfolio Design & Implementation

The INTRO18 part seems to be working locally with MAMP, I hover over the text and the cursor turns into a link. The second line is hidden (on the finished site this will be a full paragraph). I’ve tried all variations of the

tag and none want to accordion down. I’m sure I must be missing something here, so any more pointers - pretty please?

thanks
Trev

On 24 Feb 2014, at 14:49, Walter Lee Davis email@hidden wrote:

As long as your client honors the choice of tags (and the RTE allows you to enter them) then yes, this should be completely easy. The key is to structure your content the way that the Accordion effect expects it. Note that there are limitations to the formatting allowed that may make this difficult for certain types of content. But for a simple FAQ format, you could do something like this:

What is the question?

This is the answer, it goes on for a while here.

What is the question?

This is the answer, it goes on for a while here.

What is the question?

This is the answer, it goes on for a while here.

What is the question?

This is the answer, it goes on for a while here.

When you apply ScriptyAccordion to the parent box containing this HTML structure, you configure it to treat the H3 tag as the header, and the P tag as the disclosure element. As long as you or your client ONLY ever insert one H3 followed by one P with the answer for each question, then you can edit the entire text block as a single thing in the RTE. (Of course, this presupposes that the RTE in WY can create an H3 tag as part of its normal editing.)

There is nothing hard-and-fast about the preceding construction per se. The only important rule in SA is that the header and the disclosed element must be two different content types. As long as WY’s RTE can create two different textual HTML tags, you should be all set.

Finally, you can create a set of CSS styles for this element that override the native browser display of Hn tags (say if you didn’t want the font to be bold, or a different size, or if you wanted the colors or cursor behavior to be different). It’s important that you train your editors to ignore how the layout looks while you are editing, and switch over to the published view to see how it really works. If you add styling through Freeway’s Inspector or through the RTE’s WYSIWYG editor, you may break the effect entirely.

Walter

On Feb 24, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Trevreav wrote:

Hi all, does anyone know if there’s any way of getting a Scripty Accordion type effect in a WebYep long text box?

In the example the client would like each purple header to expand down to show a bit of explanatory text.

Thanks in advance.
Trev

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Hi,

One thing I notice, there is a " > " = > finish tag missing.

/ Omar

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On 24 feb 2014, at 16:21, Trevor Reaveley email@hidden wrote:

Hi Walter, thanks for that.

I think I’m getting somewhere. I’m not using a rich text edtor in WebYep, just using the commands for the typestyles from Freeway, so the first heading on the page looks like this:

<h3.INTRO18> Investment & Wealth Management</h3.INTRO18>
<p.SMALLBODY12 Portfolio Design & Implementation

The INTRO18 part seems to be working locally with MAMP, I hover over the text and the cursor turns into a link. The second line is hidden (on the finished site this will be a full paragraph). I’ve tried all variations of the

tag and none want to accordion down. I’m sure I must be missing something here, so any more pointers - pretty please?

thanks
Trev

On 24 Feb 2014, at 14:49, Walter Lee Davis email@hidden wrote:

As long as your client honors the choice of tags (and the RTE allows you to enter them) then yes, this should be completely easy. The key is to structure your content the way that the Accordion effect expects it. Note that there are limitations to the formatting allowed that may make this difficult for certain types of content. But for a simple FAQ format, you could do something like this:

What is the question?

This is the answer, it goes on for a while here.

What is the question?

This is the answer, it goes on for a while here.

What is the question?

This is the answer, it goes on for a while here.

What is the question?

This is the answer, it goes on for a while here.

When you apply ScriptyAccordion to the parent box containing this HTML structure, you configure it to treat the H3 tag as the header, and the P tag as the disclosure element. As long as you or your client ONLY ever insert one H3 followed by one P with the answer for each question, then you can edit the entire text block as a single thing in the RTE. (Of course, this presupposes that the RTE in WY can create an H3 tag as part of its normal editing.)

There is nothing hard-and-fast about the preceding construction per se. The only important rule in SA is that the header and the disclosed element must be two different content types. As long as WY’s RTE can create two different textual HTML tags, you should be all set.

Finally, you can create a set of CSS styles for this element that override the native browser display of Hn tags (say if you didn’t want the font to be bold, or a different size, or if you wanted the colors or cursor behavior to be different). It’s important that you train your editors to ignore how the layout looks while you are editing, and switch over to the published view to see how it really works. If you add styling through Freeway’s Inspector or through the RTE’s WYSIWYG editor, you may break the effect entirely.

Walter

On Feb 24, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Trevreav wrote:

Hi all, does anyone know if there’s any way of getting a Scripty Accordion type effect in a WebYep long text box?

In the example the client would like each purple header to expand down to show a bit of explanatory text.

Thanks in advance.
Trev

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The classnames on the content shouldn’t affect anything. But did you apply the Accordion Action to the container element? Can you post a link to a test page? Also, are you using the Prototype-based version of WebYep? You may have multiple Prototype links in the page – that’s a known issue with WY. The trick is to put the login for editing on a separate page, then after you’ve logged in, navigate to the page that you want to edit. Max may have additional info about this in the manual or usage notes.

Walter

On Feb 24, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Trevor Reaveley wrote:

Hi Walter, thanks for that.

I think I’m getting somewhere. I’m not using a rich text edtor in WebYep, just using the commands for the typestyles from Freeway, so the first heading on the page looks like this:

<h3.INTRO18> Investment & Wealth Management</h3.INTRO18>
<p.SMALLBODY12 Portfolio Design & Implementation

The INTRO18 part seems to be working locally with MAMP, I hover over the text and the cursor turns into a link. The second line is hidden (on the finished site this will be a full paragraph). I’ve tried all variations of the

tag and none want to accordion down. I’m sure I must be missing something here, so any more pointers - pretty please?

thanks
Trev

On 24 Feb 2014, at 14:49, Walter Lee Davis email@hidden wrote:

As long as your client honors the choice of tags (and the RTE allows you to enter them) then yes, this should be completely easy. The key is to structure your content the way that the Accordion effect expects it. Note that there are limitations to the formatting allowed that may make this difficult for certain types of content. But for a simple FAQ format, you could do something like this:

What is the question?

This is the answer, it goes on for a while here.

What is the question?

This is the answer, it goes on for a while here.

What is the question?

This is the answer, it goes on for a while here.

What is the question?

This is the answer, it goes on for a while here.

When you apply ScriptyAccordion to the parent box containing this HTML structure, you configure it to treat the H3 tag as the header, and the P tag as the disclosure element. As long as you or your client ONLY ever insert one H3 followed by one P with the answer for each question, then you can edit the entire text block as a single thing in the RTE. (Of course, this presupposes that the RTE in WY can create an H3 tag as part of its normal editing.)

There is nothing hard-and-fast about the preceding construction per se. The only important rule in SA is that the header and the disclosed element must be two different content types. As long as WY’s RTE can create two different textual HTML tags, you should be all set.

Finally, you can create a set of CSS styles for this element that override the native browser display of Hn tags (say if you didn’t want the font to be bold, or a different size, or if you wanted the colors or cursor behavior to be different). It’s important that you train your editors to ignore how the layout looks while you are editing, and switch over to the published view to see how it really works. If you add styling through Freeway’s Inspector or through the RTE’s WYSIWYG editor, you may break the effect entirely.

Walter

On Feb 24, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Trevreav wrote:

Hi all, does anyone know if there’s any way of getting a Scripty Accordion type effect in a WebYep long text box?

In the example the client would like each purple header to expand down to show a bit of explanatory text.

Thanks in advance.
Trev

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Hi Omar, if you mean after the number 12, then yes I did see that, but when I add in the >, the second row of type reverts to the header.
Thanks for looking.
Trev

On 24 Feb 2014, at 15:29, Omar K N email@hidden wrote:

Hi,

One thing I notice, there is a " > " = > finish tag missing.

/ Omar

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s_ip

On 24 feb 2014, at 16:21, Trevor Reaveley email@hidden wrote:

Hi Walter, thanks for that.

I think I’m getting somewhere. I’m not using a rich text edtor in WebYep, just using the commands for the typestyles from Freeway, so the first heading on the page looks like this:

<h3.INTRO18> Investment & Wealth Management</h3.INTRO18>
<p.SMALLBODY12 Portfolio Design & Implementation

The INTRO18 part seems to be working locally with MAMP, I hover over the text and the cursor turns into a link. The second line is hidden (on the finished site this will be a full paragraph). I’ve tried all variations of the

tag and none want to accordion down. I’m sure I must be missing something here, so any more pointers - pretty please?

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Hi Walter, I’ve just got a client coming in to see me for the rest of the afternoon now, so will upload tomorrow if I’m still having problems, I’ll be fiddling again later tonight, but essentially what I have is an html box with Scripty Accordion applied to this:

Trigger - Click
Trigger elements - h3
Show/hide elements - p
Show elements when page loads - None
Show only one element at a time.

and inserted via the cursor within this box is the WebYep (V. 3.4, so not a prototype I don’t think) long text item.

There is one more long text item on the page, a Hype animation and the only other action is the Favicon one.I can get ScriptyAccordion to work fine when it’s not within WebYep, so I really think it’s me doing something wrong with my WY bits.

Thanks again for looking.
Trev

On 24 Feb 2014, at 15:46, Walter Lee Davis email@hidden wrote:

The classnames on the content shouldn’t affect anything. But did you apply the Accordion Action to the container element? Can you post a link to a test page? Also, are you using the Prototype-based version of WebYep? You may have multiple Prototype links in the page – that’s a known issue with WY. The trick is to put the login for editing on a separate page, then after you’ve logged in, navigate to the page that you want to edit. Max may have additional info about this in the manual or usage notes.

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Hi trevor I have sent you an example freeway document using Walters accordion action and webyep
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Many thanks for that Max, I’ve just got to my Mac and seen the emil.

Much appreciated, I’ll be on this later today.

Trev

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Hi trevor I have sent you an example freeway document using Walters accordion action and webyep
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Hello everyone, just reporting back on this for anyone who may need to know how to do it, but all of the credit goes to Max and Walter.

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The key was that each ‘subject’ and each ‘explanatory paragraph’ had to be separate WebYep items. I had previously been trying to get it to work by integrating the styles needed into an overall WebYep long text box. It’s now there waiting for the client to fill in the relevant bits.

Just one more question related to Accordion though: is there any way to get the expanded copy to collapse again by re-clicking it’s subject rather than having to go on to another subject and click?

many thanks to everyone who helped.

Trev

On 26 Feb 2014, at 08:14, Trevor Reaveley email@hidden wrote:

Many thanks for that Max, I’ve just got to my Mac and seen the emil.

Much appreciated, I’ll be on this later today.

Trev

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Hi trevor I have sent you an example freeway document using Walters accordion action and webyep
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There have been a number of requests for this, and I may add it in future, but for now this is specifically not allowed.

Walter

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Just one more question related to Accordion though: is there any way to get the expanded copy to collapse again by re-clicking it’s subject rather than having to go on to another subject and click?

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OK Walter, thanks for the info anyway.
Trev

On 26 Feb 2014, at 14:08, Walter Lee Davis email@hidden wrote:

There have been a number of requests for this, and I may add it in future, but for now this is specifically not allowed.

Walter

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Just one more question related to Accordion though: is there any way to get the expanded copy to collapse again by re-clicking it’s subject rather than having to go on to another subject and click?

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Hello everyone, still related to this subject, is there any way for the Scripty Accordion headlines to change colour as they’re clicked (or hovered) so the user knows they’re a link to more text below?

I’ve set up the containing html div up with different states, but of course these headings aren’t proper links as such, but it all works fine if I link them to somewhere else - any ideas?

Thanks

On 26 Feb 2014, at 14:33, Trevor Reaveley email@hidden wrote:

OK Walter, thanks for the info anyway.
Trev

On 26 Feb 2014, at 14:08, Walter Lee Davis email@hidden wrote:

There have been a number of requests for this, and I may add it in future, but for now this is specifically not allowed.

Walter

On Feb 26, 2014, at 9:05 AM, Trevor Reaveley wrote:

Just one more question related to Accordion though: is there any way to get the expanded copy to collapse again by re-clicking it’s subject rather than having to go on to another subject and click?

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Hi Trev,
Scripty Accordion is adding code to the items (H3’s in your case) to make the text look like links (specifically the hand cursor) rather than making them real links. Maybe Walter would consider updating the Action in the future to add classes to the items when you hover and click on them so you can style them up using a standard css style. Like this;
http://www.freewayactions.com/test/accordian.html

For now I’d be inclined to wrap each H3 in a dummy link (set the href to #) and create a set of styles that style the links to suit your design;

h3 a:hover { color:red }
h3 a:active { color:blue }

Regards,
Tim.

On 27 Feb 2014, at 11:29, Trevor Reaveley wrote:

Hello everyone, still related to this subject, is there any way for the Scripty Accordion headlines to change colour as they’re clicked (or hovered) so the user knows they’re a link to more text below?

I’ve set up the containing html div up with different states, but of course these headings aren’t proper links as such, but it all works fine if I link them to somewhere else - any ideas?

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Thanks Tim, That sounds hopeful from my ignorant, deluded point of view!!

I understand ‘dummy link’ but can’t figure out how to set it - in the links panel I can’t see anyway to do something like this (href to #).

Got to go out and clear my head for a while now - 2 clients gone under this morning - so off on a dog walk to reassess the meaning of life…

regards
Trev

On 27 Feb 2014, at 12:18, Tim Plumb email@hidden wrote:

Hi Trev,
Scripty Accordion is adding code to the items (H3’s in your case) to make the text look like links (specifically the hand cursor) rather than making them real links. Maybe Walter would consider updating the Action in the future to add classes to the items when you hover and click on them so you can style them up using a standard css style. Like this;
http://www.freewayactions.com/test/accordian.html

For now I’d be inclined to wrap each H3 in a dummy link (set the href to #) and create a set of styles that style the links to suit your design;

h3 a:hover { color:red }
h3 a:active { color:blue }

Regards,
Tim.

On 27 Feb 2014, at 11:29, Trevor Reaveley wrote:

Hello everyone, still related to this subject, is there any way for the Scripty Accordion headlines to change colour as they’re clicked (or hovered) so the user knows they’re a link to more text below?

I’ve set up the containing html div up with different states, but of course these headings aren’t proper links as such, but it all works fine if I link them to somewhere else - any ideas?

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If you create a new style in Freeway using the Tag-only Style technique (http://actionsforge.com/articles/view/9-tag-only-styles) you can get this effect, with no need for additional dummy links. Here’s the raw CSS you would need, based on the Accordion element being named myAccordion in the Name/ID field of the Inspector. Change the following based on your actual name for that box.

#myAccordion h3:hover {
	color: #eeff00;
}

To make such a style in Freeway’s Styles palette, you open the New Style dialog, then enter the entire selector (the part before the curly-brackets above) into the Tag field. Then, as the article explains, tab into the Name field, delete, and tab out. Then simply add the color preference you like using the normal dialog box options. You can change other properties, too, like the font weight, or make it italic, whatever your design requires.

Tim, I agree that it would be good to class the headers when they are open – that would give us more styling hooks!

Walter

On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Trevor Reaveley wrote:

Thanks Tim, That sounds hopeful from my ignorant, deluded point of view!!

I understand ‘dummy link’ but can’t figure out how to set it - in the links panel I can’t see anyway to do something like this (href to #).

Got to go out and clear my head for a while now - 2 clients gone under this morning - so off on a dog walk to reassess the meaning of life…

regards
Trev

On 27 Feb 2014, at 12:18, Tim Plumb email@hidden wrote:

Hi Trev,
Scripty Accordion is adding code to the items (H3’s in your case) to make the text look like links (specifically the hand cursor) rather than making them real links. Maybe Walter would consider updating the Action in the future to add classes to the items when you hover and click on them so you can style them up using a standard css style. Like this;
http://www.freewayactions.com/test/accordian.html

For now I’d be inclined to wrap each H3 in a dummy link (set the href to #) and create a set of styles that style the links to suit your design;

h3 a:hover { color:red }
h3 a:active { color:blue }

Regards,
Tim.

On 27 Feb 2014, at 11:29, Trevor Reaveley wrote:

Hello everyone, still related to this subject, is there any way for the Scripty Accordion headlines to change colour as they’re clicked (or hovered) so the user knows they’re a link to more text below?

I’ve set up the containing html div up with different states, but of course these headings aren’t proper links as such, but it all works fine if I link them to somewhere else - any ideas?

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That worked a treat thanks Walter (once I remembered to include the ‘#’ - doh!). I’m working on some other bits at the moment, but will upload later to show off!

Trev

On 27 Feb 2014, at 13:06, Walter Lee Davis email@hidden wrote:

If you create a new style in Freeway using the Tag-only Style technique (http://actionsforge.com/articles/view/9-tag-only-styles) you can get this effect, with no need for additional dummy links. Here’s the raw CSS you would need, based on the Accordion element being named myAccordion in the Name/ID field of the Inspector. Change the following based on your actual name for that box.

#myAccordion h3:hover {
color: #eeff00;
}

To make such a style in Freeway’s Styles palette, you open the New Style dialog, then enter the entire selector (the part before the curly-brackets above) into the Tag field. Then, as the article explains, tab into the Name field, delete, and tab out. Then simply add the color preference you like using the normal dialog box options. You can change other properties, too, like the font weight, or make it italic, whatever your design requires.

Tim, I agree that it would be good to class the headers when they are open – that would give us more styling hooks!

Walter

On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Trevor Reaveley wrote:

Thanks Tim, That sounds hopeful from my ignorant, deluded point of view!!

I understand ‘dummy link’ but can’t figure out how to set it - in the links panel I can’t see anyway to do something like this (href to #).

Got to go out and clear my head for a while now - 2 clients gone under this morning - so off on a dog walk to reassess the meaning of life…

regards
Trev

On 27 Feb 2014, at 12:18, Tim Plumb email@hidden wrote:

Hi Trev,
Scripty Accordion is adding code to the items (H3’s in your case) to make the text look like links (specifically the hand cursor) rather than making them real links. Maybe Walter would consider updating the Action in the future to add classes to the items when you hover and click on them so you can style them up using a standard css style. Like this;
http://www.freewayactions.com/test/accordian.html

For now I’d be inclined to wrap each H3 in a dummy link (set the href to #) and create a set of styles that style the links to suit your design;

h3 a:hover { color:red }
h3 a:active { color:blue }

Regards,
Tim.

On 27 Feb 2014, at 11:29, Trevor Reaveley wrote:

Hello everyone, still related to this subject, is there any way for the Scripty Accordion headlines to change colour as they’re clicked (or hovered) so the user knows they’re a link to more text below?

I’ve set up the containing html div up with different states, but of course these headings aren’t proper links as such, but it all works fine if I link them to somewhere else - any ideas?

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I’d mentioned the dummy anchors because I had Internet Explorer’s lack of support of pseudo styles on anything other than anchors in mind. Thinking about that again I think it was IE6 that last exhibited this issue - and you know what IE6 users can do? :slight_smile:
…upgrade. That’s right.
Regards,
Tim.
On 27 Feb 2014, at 13:06, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

If you create a new style in Freeway using the Tag-only Style technique (http://actionsforge.com/articles/view/9-tag-only-styles) you can get this effect, with no need for additional dummy links.

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On Feb 27, 2014, at 9:10 AM, Tim Plumb wrote:

…upgrade. That’s right.

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Just out of curiosity Tim, although I have it working now from Walter’s instructions, how would I add the dummy links you mentioned earlier?

Just to store the info for a possible future scenario.

Trev

On 27 Feb 2014, at 14:10, Tim Plumb email@hidden wrote:

I’d mentioned the dummy anchors because I had Internet Explorer’s lack of support of pseudo styles on anything other than anchors in mind. Thinking about that again I think it was IE6 that last exhibited this issue - and you know what IE6 users can do? :slight_smile:
…upgrade. That’s right.
Regards,
Tim.
On 27 Feb 2014, at 13:06, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

If you create a new style in Freeway using the Tag-only Style technique (http://actionsforge.com/articles/view/9-tag-only-styles) you can get this effect, with no need for additional dummy links.

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