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it did… I changed that

all the pdfs etc

Thank you so much for your help

How does the “flow” line up look?

J
On Nov 2, 2009, at 10:22 AM, DeltaDave wrote:

Check the on the Home page how the Link page is linked to - Apple K
will show you - does it have the attribute target: _blank


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Still think that you should make the first column of your Contact form wider and maybe reduce the size of the text in keeping with the rest of the site.


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Thank you,

I change the font to the same size as all (default)
and widened the first column

Julie
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Still think that you should make the first column of your Contact
form wider and maybe reduce the size of the text in keeping with the
rest of the site.


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Thank you for all input - Dave and all others.

Quick question… I am making his logo - you can see it in the upper
left corner… on all the sub pages…

any one have a hint of how to sharpen that? I played in illustrator -
live trace and it looks great till I put it on the site…

ugghhh

thank you

Julie

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Still think that you should make the first column of your Contact
form wider and maybe reduce the size of the text in keeping with the
rest of the site.


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I played in illustrator

Did you create it in illustrator or just work on a supplied file?

If supplied - how did you get it - what format.

If created in AI then just import the native file and output as PNG millions

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I was supplied it… it is a gif.

On Nov 2, 2009, at 1:53 PM, DeltaDave wrote:

I played in illustrator

Did you create it in illustrator or just work on a supplied file?

If supplied - how did you get it - what format.

If created in AI then just import the native file and output as PNG
millions

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YEs, a gif

but the problem i have w saving it as a jpeg is the white background…
I want it clear

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I played in illustrator

Did you create it in illustrator or just work on a supplied file?

If supplied - how did you get it - what format.

If created in AI then just import the native file and output as PNG
millions

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If you were supplied a gif then you need to get the original artwork file - before it was saved as a gif.

To get the transparent background it will need to be output as a gif or png from Freeway. But that doesn’t mean that the file you put into your FW doc needs to be a gif or png because FW will work with Illustrator and Photoshop files amongst others and convert on output.

The important thing is that you get a quality hi-res file to start with. If you dont get that then you will spend a lot of time cleaning it up in Pshop or Illustrator as you have found out.

Alternatively you could try adding the brown page background colour to your illustrator file for a short term fix.

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Also incorporate the text into the Logo "The law offices of…’ if that is your intention. Otherwise resizing the text breaks it away from the logo.

Another point - the address box that you have on all subsequent pages of the site would look a lot neater if it was the same height as the header pic on these pages.

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I did… it looks a little better - not great but for this moment -

Thank you .

How do you like the site in a whole?

Thanks

j
On Nov 2, 2009, at 2:35 PM, DeltaDave wrote:

Also incorporate the text into the Logo "The law offices of…’ if
that is your intention. Otherwise resizing the text breaks it away
from the logo.

Another point - the address box that you have on all subsequent
pages of the site would look a lot neater if it was the same height
as the header pic on these pages.

D


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I did… it looks a little better

I disagree - I think it is worse with illegible text!

the address box that you have on all subsequent pages of the site would look a lot neater if it was the same height as the header pic on these pages.

Centre the text in the box as well (height wise not centre align)


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YOu are right…

I put in the ill file and it really does look better…

no words though… but for now… I need to figure out words w this so
they are clear… but some thing is in the space.

Julie

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On Nov 2, 2009, at 3:19 PM, DeltaDave wrote:

I did… it looks a little better

I disagree - I think it is worse with illegible text!

the address box that you have on all subsequent pages of the site
would look a lot neater if it was the same height as the header pic
on these pages.

Centre the text in the box as well (height wise not centre align)


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Do you remember the discussion about having a grid system?

A grid is supposed to help you keep things aligned and evenly spaced.

If you apply those principles here it would help - look at the spacing between the logo, the header pic and the address box - are they evenly spaced?

I still think that there is far too much header on the Home page - most of that header pic is wasted space - chop its height dramatically. Get some paragraph spacing in the left column. Put a link on 'Contact me today" to the Contact page.
Get more blurb into that RH column to even up the page.

Make a Link of Divorce 101 - his blog page

You might as well make the brown boxes on Cases and Services full width if you are not going to have any side bars.

‘Please fill out the form…’ - text is still too big.

Same issue about the width of the brown box on the Links page. And that brown box could probably be toned down some more site-wide.

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Why separate boxes for the header text and the list of links on the Cases page - stick them all together and don’t forget the padding.


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I agree with you on the header… but he wants that. I will work on
other examples for him - but he loves the buffalo skyline.
I do have them evenly spaced… and the grid in place.

I tweaked the brown another hair down.

J
On Nov 2, 2009, at 3:34 PM, DeltaDave wrote:

Do you remember the discussion about having a grid system?

A grid is supposed to help you keep things aligned and evenly spaced.

If you apply those principles here it would help - look at the
spacing between the logo, the header pic and the address box - are
they evenly spaced?

I still think that there is far too much header on the Home page -
most of that header pic is wasted space - chop its height
dramatically. Get some paragraph spacing in the left column. Put a
link on 'Contact me today" to the Contact page.
Get more blurb into that RH column to even up the page.

Make a Link of Divorce 101 - his blog page

You might as well make the brown boxes on Cases and Services full
width if you are not going to have any side bars.

‘Please fill out the form…’ - text is still too big.

Same issue about the width of the brown box on the Links page. And
that brown box could probably be toned down some more site-wide.

D


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I do appreciate your help and tweaks…

thank you
On Nov 2, 2009, at 2:35 PM, DeltaDave wrote:

Also incorporate the text into the Logo "The law offices of…’ if
that is your intention. Otherwise resizing the text breaks it away
from the logo.

Another point - the address box that you have on all subsequent
pages of the site would look a lot neater if it was the same height
as the header pic on these pages.

D


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ps

i added a contact us today button

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Also incorporate the text into the Logo "The law offices of…’ if
that is your intention. Otherwise resizing the text breaks it away
from the logo.

Another point - the address box that you have on all subsequent
pages of the site would look a lot neater if it was the same height
as the header pic on these pages.

D


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Sometime around 2/11/09 (at 15:28 -0500) julie maxwell allen said:

I put in the ill file and it really does look better…

Not perfect yet though. You have imported an Illustrator file but
Freeway is outputting a JPEG. Use the Inspector palette to change the
output format to GIF - that will clear up the slight grunginess that
appears around what should be crisp, sharp lines.

And another thing… the choice of type for the header graphic is,
frankly, bad. As in, that looks cheap & nasty. I don’t know if that’s
a really poor knock-off of Goudy’s Copperplate Gothic design
(Copperplate Gothic Font | Webfont & Desktop | MyFonts) or if
you’ve played with the type setting in some way, but the font used in
your site has clumsy serifs, particularly on some characters,
poorly-shaped curves, inconsistent weights…

It isn’t set well either; the type position is, well, weird. Too
close to the left edge, strange space between the two lines, mixed
alignments, even oddly placed vertically. And the placement of that
translucent box isn’t quite right either!

Okay, elsewhere. In the small “Welcome” header strip you’ve stretched
the characters, and the the “Helping to get you started” graphic you
appear to have squashed the type. Never, ever do either of these
things. I’m sorry to be harsh, but it is the sign of a bad designer.

The large header graphic on the home page is far, far too tall. Okay,
the client likes the skyline, but you really should steer him towards
a design that doesn’t waste space quite this much.

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Keith your not harsh… I will empty the cache and look at those small
headers again… What yu described is not what I am seeing.

The gif was actually worst…

I willchange the header to HTML and yes that is the font…

I will make a second 1st page and uploaded it to a dummy folder so he
can see the difference

Thank you back to work after she is in bed
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On Nov 2, 2009, at 17:30, Keith Martin email@hidden wrote:

Sometime around 2/11/09 (at 15:28 -0500) julie maxwell allen said:

I put in the ill file and it really does look better…

Not perfect yet though. You have imported an Illustrator file but
Freeway is outputting a JPEG. Use the Inspector palette to change
the output format to GIF - that will clear up the slight grunginess
that appears around what should be crisp, sharp lines.

And another thing… the choice of type for the header graphic is,
frankly, bad. As in, that looks cheap & nasty. I don’t know if
that’s a really poor knock-off of Goudy’s Copperplate Gothic design (Copperplate Gothic Font | Webfont & Desktop | MyFonts
) or if you’ve played with the type setting in some way, but the
font used in your site has clumsy serifs, particularly on some
characters, poorly-shaped curves, inconsistent weights…

It isn’t set well either; the type position is, well, weird. Too
close to the left edge, strange space between the two lines, mixed
alignments, even oddly placed vertically. And the placement of that
translucent box isn’t quite right either!

Okay, elsewhere. In the small “Welcome” header strip you’ve
stretched the characters, and the the “Helping to get you started”
graphic you appear to have squashed the type. Never, ever do either
of these things. I’m sorry to be harsh, but it is the sign of a bad
designer.

The large header graphic on the home page is far, far too tall.
Okay, the client likes the skyline, but you really should steer him
towards a design that doesn’t waste space quite this much.

k


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The gif was actually worst…

I don’t mean switch to importing a GIF, I mean set the output format
of that image in Freeway to GIF so that is how it will be
published. JPEG is simply the wrong format for a flat-colour
logotype graphic.

I willchange the header to HTML and yes that is the font…

What, that’s actually Copperplate Gothic? What’s been done to it?
Have you forced it to be bold by using the ‘B’ button in the
Inspector?

k


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