Subdomain on different server

I want to host the site (thebath.net) on the ultra-reliable Clook but farm out less critical but possibly more demanding sections, e.g. a large image gallery, onto Have-Host so that, for instance, while www.thebath.net was hosted with Clook, images.thebath.net would be hosted on my Have-Host space. I know I could do this by linking to completely different domains on Have-Host but I’d prefer, if possible, to use subdomains.

Hope that makes sense!

Roger

Sure, that makes lots of sense. Here’s how to go about it. You need to pick one or the other of your hosting accounts to do DNS duty. Whichever one has the more feature-ful control panel is where I would lay my bet.

On that one host, set up the domain and the subdomain, setting as the destination for those names the IP address of each server as appropriate. If either of your hosts tie the DNS to their Apache Web server, such that you have to use their DNS in order to get a custom domain, then you will probably have to file a support ticket with that host to configure Apache if you want to split the DNS in this manner. But it’s not hard at all to do, technically, so there shouldn’t be any push back from them on that front.

Another option would be to use a third party for your DNS. I use EasyDNS, and have for years. It’s inexpensive, massively reliable, and fairly easy to configure through a Web control panel.

I have servers in my basement, some in San Diego, one in Florida, I’ve lost track of their physical locations for the most part. All of them are DNS’d through EasyDNS, so I can put parts of my network wherever it makes the most sense.

Walter

OK, this is what I’ve tried.

On Clook, where www.thebath.net is hosted, I’ve gone to Edit DNS Zone in WHM and added an A record for lists.thebath.net with the IP address of my Have-Host account. On Have-Host I’ve created a new account for lists.the.bath.net.

This hasn’t worked, though. http://lists.thebath.net just gives me a 404.

(Incidentally, when creating an account on Have-Host there’s an option for “DNS Settings:
Use domain registry nameservers
(ignore locally configured ones)”. I’ve tried this both on and off but neither seems to make a difference.)

Roger


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On 28 Oct. 2007, 9:41 am, rogerhoughton wrote:

OK, this is what I’ve tried.

On Clook, where www.thebath.net is hosted, I’ve gone to Edit DNS Zone in WHM and added an A record for lists.thebath.net with the IP address of my Have-Host account. On Have-Host I’ve created a new account for lists.the.bath.net.

An A record has to point to another host, not to an IP address. I believe what you want is a C record.

When I type host lists.thebath.net in my Terminal, I get back Host lists.thebath.net not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

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On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 09:41:40 -0400, rogerhoughton wrote:

On Clook, where www.thebath.net is hosted, I’ve gone to Edit DNS Zone
in WHM and added an A record for lists.thebath.net with the IP
address of my Have-Host account. On Have-Host I’ve created a new
account for lists.the.bath.net.

This hasn’t worked, though. http://lists.thebath.net just gives me a 404.

Just tried it this way with both a different domain at Clook and one
going the other way and both worked without any trouble. There seems to
b an issue with thebath.net’s DNS (which Clook are looking into).

(Incidentally, when creating an account on Have-Host there’s an
option for “DNS Settings:
Use domain registry nameservers
(ignore locally configured ones)”.

Can anyone explain what this does?

Roger


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An A record has to point to another host, not to an IP address. I
believe what you want is a C record.

When I type host lists.thebath.net in my Terminal, I get back Host
lists.thebath.net not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

This is very strange. From what I googled I understood that a CNAME (I
don’t have an option for a C record) pointed to the same server but an
A record points to the IP address of a different server. This is how I
set up both http://lists.thebath.net and
http://lists.rogerhoughton.co.uk. The later works for me but the former
doeasn’t.

However Clook support tell me that http://lists.thebath.net works OK
for them.

Does http://lists.thebath.net work for anyone else?

Roger


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I get a directory listing - is that correct?

Have you left enough time for these changes to propagate through the web? You might not see, what I see, until everything catches up with your changes.

On 28 Oct 2007, at 7:21 pm, Roger Houghton wrote:

Does http://lists.thebath.net work for anyone else?

Roger

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On 28 Oct 2007, at 19:21, Roger Houghton wrote:

Does http://lists.thebath.net work for anyone else?

Yes, it works for me:

finlay$ host lists.thebath.net
lists.thebath.net has address 72.29.84.123

Note that DNS is a heavily cached system. What you are probably seeing
is that your local DNS server of choice has cached the NXDOMAIN
response.

For the curious, the length of time that negative responses can be
influenced by adjusting the SOA MINIMUM TTL of the parent zone
(thebath.net). Yours is currently set at 86400 seconds (24 hours, see <http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=thebath.net

), so it could take up to 24 hours for your local DNS server to pick
up the changes.

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Yes! Well done.

Clook say it could be my ISP’s (Virgin Media) DNS cache and that I should try it again in a couple of hours.


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For the curious, the length of time that negative responses can be influenced by adjusting the SOA MINIMUM TTL of the parent zone (thebath.net). Yours is currently set at 86400 seconds

Can I change this (I’m hosting www.thebath.net on a reseller account) or is this controlled by the original hoster or my ISP?

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