Sublime Player Action - Why Does It Require XHTML Strict?

Hi All,

I love this action but I was wondering if we could get further calcification as to why it requires the page to be XHTML Strict? If I just setup the Sublime Video Player using a markup item with my page format set to XHTML Transitional the player works great.

REASON: In my experience XHTML Transitional give me more flexibility when building sites, such as the target attribute.

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Because in order to properly (as in validly) use the video tag, you have to have declared an HTML5 doctype. I go the extra step of making the entire page HTML5 in XML syntax.

What are you using target to do? There’s always work-arounds that don’t break the strict rules.

Walter

On May 10, 2012, at 6:11 PM, TeamSDA wrote:

Hi All,

I love this action but I was wondering if we could get further calcification as to why it requires the page to be XHTML Strict? If I just setup the Sublime Video Player using a markup item with my page format set to XHTML Transitional the player works great.

REASON: In my experience XHTML Transitional give me more flexibility when building sites, such as the target attribute.

Regards,

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Hi Walt,

  1. We use the target_blank a lot to link out of site in a new browser window.

  2. We also plan to use the Sublime player with list, would be cool if this was made into an Action as well.

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Dave


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I usually and always recommend to use actions but in this case (and a few others) I see not any need for it. Especially the “forced” re-upload that might occur for any reason is a video no-go due file-sizes.

Sublime added a video-code-generator these days that should make life as easy as it is. In your case it would be the lightbox area that generates “initial links”

https://my.sublimevideo.net/video-code-generator

I haven’t had the chance to try that generator but will as far as I find some time.

Cheers

Thomas


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The ironic thing here is that target is valid in HTML5, but because I can’t turn XHTML Transitional into HTML5 easily within an Action, you’re kind of stuck. Freeway believes that target is invalid, and doesn’t let you apply it through the normal channels.

If you really want to add a target attribute, you can do so using the Extended sub-dialog in the Hyperlink dialog. Freeway doesn’t “police” these attributes at all. I still recommend that you follow the XHTML Strict conventions, because opening a new window is the VISITOR’S choice, not yours.

Walter

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Hi Walt,

  1. We use the target_blank a lot to link out of site in a new browser window.

  2. We also plan to use the Sublime player with list, would be cool if this was made into an Action as well.

Regards,
Dave


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I just tested, removing the xhtmlstrict value from the appliesto declaration inside the Action (line 3) allows you to apply it to an XHTML Transitional document, and at least with the very minimal test document I tried, the results are still valid.

So then you can have both. The problem is, there’s no way as an Action author for me to keep you from also trying to apply it to an HTML 4 or other document level, and those would probably be quite ridiculously wrong. There’s no switch that I can add to the Action that says XHTML Strict or Transitional, the existing options are Strict only or Transitional only.

So please do open up the Action with a text editor, remove just the word xhtmlstrict from line 3, and have at it. Good luck! (Not valid in Georgia or Florida, see fine print for other disclaimers. Not responsible for hair loss or unwanted hair growth.)

Walter

On May 11, 2012, at 8:51 AM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

The ironic thing here is that target is valid in HTML5, but because I can’t turn XHTML Transitional into HTML5 easily within an Action, you’re kind of stuck. Freeway believes that target is invalid, and doesn’t let you apply it through the normal channels.

If you really want to add a target attribute, you can do so using the Extended sub-dialog in the Hyperlink dialog. Freeway doesn’t “police” these attributes at all. I still recommend that you follow the XHTML Strict conventions, because opening a new window is the VISITOR’S choice, not yours.

Walter

On May 10, 2012, at 10:59 PM, TeamSDA wrote:

Hi Walt,

  1. We use the target_blank a lot to link out of site in a new browser window.

  2. We also plan to use the Sublime player with list, would be cool if this was made into an Action as well.

Regards,
Dave


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Tim Plumb explained an undocumented feature in the Actions API to me off-list, and I’ve updated the Action to include this new feature. You may now use XHTML Transitional as the donor page level when creating an HTML5 video page using the SublimePlayer Action.

Walter

On May 11, 2012, at 9:07 AM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

I just tested, removing the xhtmlstrict value from the appliesto declaration inside the Action (line 3) allows you to apply it to an XHTML Transitional document, and at least with the very minimal test document I tried, the results are still valid.

So then you can have both. The problem is, there’s no way as an Action author for me to keep you from also trying to apply it to an HTML 4 or other document level, and those would probably be quite ridiculously wrong. There’s no switch that I can add to the Action that says XHTML Strict or Transitional, the existing options are Strict only or Transitional only.

So please do open up the Action with a text editor, remove just the word xhtmlstrict from line 3, and have at it. Good luck! (Not valid in Georgia or Florida, see fine print for other disclaimers. Not responsible for hair loss or unwanted hair growth.)

Walter

On May 11, 2012, at 8:51 AM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

The ironic thing here is that target is valid in HTML5, but because I can’t turn XHTML Transitional into HTML5 easily within an Action, you’re kind of stuck. Freeway believes that target is invalid, and doesn’t let you apply it through the normal channels.

If you really want to add a target attribute, you can do so using the Extended sub-dialog in the Hyperlink dialog. Freeway doesn’t “police” these attributes at all. I still recommend that you follow the XHTML Strict conventions, because opening a new window is the VISITOR’S choice, not yours.

Walter

On May 10, 2012, at 10:59 PM, TeamSDA wrote:

Hi Walt,

  1. We use the target_blank a lot to link out of site in a new browser window.

  2. We also plan to use the Sublime player with list, would be cool if this was made into an Action as well.

Regards,
Dave


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Thank You Walt,

We will give this a go. Also Thomas thank you for your input as well.

Regards,
Dave


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