Text Flow

I have two text boxes which link, and have pasted in the copy, but
when viewed in Opera (and IE on PC Vista) it doesn’t flow correctly.
i.e. it stops mid sentence and continues in the next text box - is
this normal, I thought it should flow-over or am I being optimistic?

http://www.awdc-creative.com/clients/quadvision/case-studies/wagamama.htm

Nathan Garner
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If you look at your source


<div id="item1" style="overflow: visible; position: absolute; left: 47px; top: 459px; width: 290px; height: 130px; z-index: 2;">
<h2 class="subhead">Heathrow T5</h2>
<p class="body">Requirement to provide a complete hardware and software solution including installation for two dynamic, portrait oriented, touch-screen. The two 32” NEC LCD Touch screens were mounted within both a wall and a totem to provide a dynamic touch screen experience, where the public could browse the menus in various languages, look at images of the dishes and</p>
</div>
<div id="item1a" style="overflow: visible; position: absolute; left: 352px; top: 459px; width: 290px; height: 130px; z-index: 3;">
<p class="body">check the pricing using their fingers. The display comprised of multiple media files split on the screen and independently controlled, which were scheduled and displayed using Quad Vision’s eSign software and Vision Display System controllers. The systems can be remotely updated with new media. </p>
</div>

You will see that the text is divided between two separate divs - there isn’t anything that you can do to make text flow from 1 div to another.

My understanding of the Text flow set up is to help with page layout (as in Quark or other DTP) not to keep the text flexible or flowing on output. The same way that printed text from 2 text boxes linked cannot flow one to the other once printed.

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Sometime around 5/1/09 (at 17:50 -0500) DeltaDave said:

My understanding of the Text flow set up is to help with page layout [etc.]

Exactly so, perfect description. :slight_smile:

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Thought so. At least I know now. Thanks for your help. I will have to
think of another way of doing this as the text flow-layout option
doesnt work in all browsers, so renders it unusable for me.

Thanks again.

Nathan Garner
Partner

Austin Wells Design Consultants
1 Elmgate Drive, Littledown, Bournemouth BH7 7EF
+44 (0)1202 301271
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On 5 Jan 2009, at 22:50, DeltaDave wrote:

If you look at your source


<div id="item1" style="overflow: visible; position: absolute; left:  
47px; top: 459px; width: 290px; height: 130px; z-index: 2;">
<h2 class="subhead">Heathrow T5</h2>
<p class="body">Requirement to provide a complete hardware and  
software solution including installation for two dynamic, portrait  
oriented, touch-screen. The two 32” NEC LCD Touch screens were  
mounted within both a wall and a totem to provide a dynamic touch  
screen experience, where the public could browse the menus in  
various languages, look at images of the dishes and</p>
</div>
<div id="item1a" style="overflow: visible; position: absolute; left:  
352px; top: 459px; width: 290px; height: 130px; z-index: 3;">
<p class="body">check the pricing using their fingers. The display  
comprised of multiple media files split on the screen and  
independently controlled, which were scheduled and displayed using  
Quad Vision’s eSign software and Vision Display System controllers.  
The systems can be remotely updated with new media. </p>
</div>

You will see that the text is divided between two separate divs -
there isn’t anything that you can do to make text flow from 1 div to
another.

My understanding of the Text flow set up is to help with page layout
(as in Quark or other DTP) not to keep the text flexible or flowing
on output. The same way that printed text from 2 text boxes linked
cannot flow one to the other once printed.

David


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Sometime around 6/1/09 (at 09:38 +0000) Nathan Garner said:

Thought so. At least I know now. Thanks for your help. I will have
to think of another way of doing this as the text flow-layout option
doesnt work in all browsers, so renders it unusable for me.

Actually, I don’t know of a multi-box text flow feature that works in
any web browser. (Although perhaps someone could enlighten me if
there is one.)

Freeway’s text box linking feature is there to help designers deal
with long portions of text at design time, specifically so they
don’t have to cut passages of text up into discrete portions. This
can make layout tasks far easier, as resizing one of the container
boxes or editing the text will simply reflow the content through the
linked containers rather than require a series of copy-paste steps to
push things along in pseudo-linked but actually totally separate text
containers.

It has no bearing at all on the final output; that always has been
‘frozen’ to represent the state of the layout at the time of
publishing. As Dave said, this is analogous to the way a print DTP
layout is frozen into place in the final print.

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On 6 Jan 2009, at 09:38, Nathan Garner wrote:

Thought so. At least I know now. Thanks for your help. I will have
to think of another way of doing this as the text flow-layout option
doesnt work in all browsers, so renders it unusable for me.

Nathan, just in case you’re missing a point here: the text flow option
doesn’t work in ANY browser, it’s just there to help with early layout
in Freeway. There’s nothing in the HTML specs that will allow text to
flow from one box to another, online.

best wishes,

Paul Bradforth

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Righty ho. I will use it for a layout option only. Thanks again.

Nathan Garner
Partner

Austin Wells Design Consultants
1 Elmgate Drive, Littledown, Bournemouth BH7 7EF
+44 (0)1202 301271
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On 6 Jan 2009, at 10:08, Keith Martin wrote:

Sometime around 6/1/09 (at 09:38 +0000) Nathan Garner said:

Thought so. At least I know now. Thanks for your help. I will have
to think of another way of doing this as the text flow-layout
option doesnt work in all browsers, so renders it unusable for me.

Actually, I don’t know of a multi-box text flow feature that works
in any web browser. (Although perhaps someone could enlighten me
if there is one.)

Freeway’s text box linking feature is there to help designers deal
with long portions of text at design time, specifically so they
don’t have to cut passages of text up into discrete portions. This
can make layout tasks far easier, as resizing one of the container
boxes or editing the text will simply reflow the content through the
linked containers rather than require a series of copy-paste steps
to push things along in pseudo-linked but actually totally separate
text containers.

It has no bearing at all on the final output; that always has been
‘frozen’ to represent the state of the layout at the time of
publishing. As Dave said, this is analogous to the way a print DTP
layout is frozen into place in the final print.

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Mozilla-based browsers have the -moz-column-count attribute. Not sure
if there’s a similar setting in Safari, but since this is part of the
upcoming (hah!) CSS3 spec, there may be an equivalent there, since
WebKit has been CSS3 since the very beginning.

Walter

On Jan 6, 2009, at 5:08 AM, Keith Martin wrote:

Actually, I don’t know of a multi-box text flow feature that works
in any web browser. (Although perhaps someone could enlighten me
if there is one.)


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Found the reference:

http://www.css3.info/preview/multi-column-layout/

Multi-column layout is currently only supported in Mozilla based
browsers and Safari 3, who have prefixed the properties with
respectively -moz- and -webkit-.


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On 6 Jan 2009, 1:54 pm, waltd wrote:

Found the reference:

Multi-column layout - CSS3 . Info

Multi-column layout is currently only supported in Mozilla based
browsers and Safari 3, who have prefixed the properties with
respectively -moz- and -webkit-.

This is very interesting Walter but how long is it going to be before IE can do it? IE9 2010

David

BTW Often when I click Quote (on the web forum) it kicks me off and I have to log in again. FF 3.0.5


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I’ve seen issues with the quote tool before. It has to do with your session expiring, which we do to keep people from impersonating you on a shared computer. If you don’t share your computer, then check the “remember me on this computer” checkbox when logging in. That should work around the problem. As for Microsodt and CSS3, sadly there is no known work-around.

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Thanks Walter

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