That beautiful blue button

Built a half dozen sites, but this is my first one entirely with the css button depressed. Honestly, I didn’t really understand the difference until I forced myself to read the 300-page freeway manual. So my question to all the experts out there is… why in the world would anyone NOT want to use the CSS layout? It’s brilliant. Things live where I put them. HTML and graphics don’t fight like cats and dogs. It even tested perfectly the first time I loaded it up on a pc. I’m dumbfounded!

Working site’s at:
www.thegourmetdog.com

Plan on finishing it up this weekend.
Andrew


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One of the only reasons I sometimes need to go back to a table layout format is with emails. Unfortunately Outlook doesn’t like css that much so its easier to revert to a table layout output… but apart from that I never turn the big blue button off.

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Nice job Andrew.

The page won’t validate HTML standards though – quick examination shows some of your buddy links (custom code?) are improperly closed for xhtml. ( > instead of /> ).

Best wishes :slight_smile:

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Andrew Macris wrote:

Built a half dozen sites, but this is my first one entirely with the css button depressed. Honestly, I didn’t really understand the difference until I forced myself to read the 300-page freeway manual. So my question to all the experts out there is… why in the world would anyone NOT want to use the CSS layout? It’s brilliant. Things live where I put them. HTML and graphics don’t fight like cats and dogs. It even tested perfectly the first time I loaded it up on a pc. I’m dumbfounded!

Working site’s at:
www.thegourmetdog.com

Plan on finishing it up this weekend.
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Ernie - can I ask what tool you use to validate HTML standards ?

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It even tested perfectly the first time I loaded it up on a pc. I’m dumbfounded!

Working site’s at:
www.thegourmetdog.com

Try increasing your font size. You’ll see what a dog’s dinner it becomes!

Seriously, though, using layers all the time, especially for content, can cause problems, especially for people who up the font size due sight problems.


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On 23 May 2008, at 08:57, Paul wrote:

Try increasing your font size. You’ll see what a dog’s dinner it
becomes!

Seriously, though, using layers all the time, especially for
content, can cause problems, especially for people who up the font
size due sight problems.

It’s only the front page though, and easily fixed. (Make sure all the
content is in the same box).

best wishes

Paul Bradforth

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Validate HTML - http://validator.w3.org/

Validate CSS - http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/

Using Firefox Mac with the Web Developer plug in, there are tools for viewing a page under a variety circumstances. Including submitting the page to the W3C for markup and css validation.

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:14 AM, Tonsils wrote:

Ernie - can I ask what tool you use to validate HTML standards ?


Ernie Simpson – Freeway 5 Pro User – http://www.thebigerns.com/freeway/

I added the “refer a friend” and “subscribe” buttons last night. Prior to that, it passed css and html validation with w3c.

I was trying to find something that worked and this was a good workaround without me having to test a lot.

I think the home page and most other copy is freaking huge. Do you think many people will really be enlarging beyond this?

The buddy links are custom code, but I just “copied and pasted” what was provided to me at “refer-a-buddy.com” into an markup box. I don’t think they intended that to be pasted into an xhtml file. I’ll adjust that.

If anyone has any better solutions for the viral and subscribe functionality, I’d love to hear it.

Thanks as always for your feedback. This is a small budget client and my main job is a copywriter, not a designer. I love how freeway can allow me – a novice – to develop such a nice looking site. Now, on to the mals-e integration. My first!!

By the way, with Freeway 5, it appears I no longer need a separate action to run Mals. Is this correct?

Andrew.


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As far as the buddy links are concerned, the closing tags may be the only problem. As I said earlier, replace the ‘>’ with ‘/>’ (XHTML closing tags). I bet this will clear up the validation problems.

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Andrew Macris wrote:

I added the “refer a friend” and “subscribe” buttons last night. Prior to that, it passed css and html validation with w3c.

The buddy links are custom code, but I just “copied and pasted” what was provided to me at “refer-a-buddy.com” into an markup box. I don’t think they intended that to be pasted into an xhtml file. I’ll adjust that.


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Hello again. Big Erns, I copied the code from the first button below. Frankly, I’m not sure where to put in the “/>” Could you modify this one, and I’ll try to do what you did for the other one?

thanks,
Andrew.


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well, that didn’t work. I’ve posted a pdf of the script at
www.thegourmetdog.com/tellafriend.html

thanks!
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I haven’t been following but are you using the Strict doc type? If
so, wrap the link in a p tag (see below) and it will W3C validate
just fine. This is what the W3C error suggests doing and it works.
Using your code here’s my example <http://anoptic.com/demo/
validate.html>.

If you’re using Transitional then it validates as it is currently.

Note that using SafariTidy to validate the original code it passes
fine but using the W3C and others it fails. The point being not all
validators show the same results so don’t drive yourself nuts trying
to make it perfect.

Todd

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On May 24, 2008, at 7:14 AM, Andrew Macris wrote:

Hello again. Big Erns, I copied the code from the first button
below. Frankly, I’m not sure where to put in the “/>” Could you
modify this one, and I’ll try to do what you did for the other one?


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Todd is right, it needs paragraph tags – and if you insert the code in a markup item that is inside an html box, Freeway automatically wraps it in p tags. Like this: http://www.thebigerns.com/freeway/workbench/fw5_andrew-validation/

On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 5:14 AM, Andrew Macris wrote:

Hello again. Big Erns, I copied the code from the first button below. Frankly, I’m not sure where to put in the “/>” Could you modify this one, and I’ll try to do what you did for the other one?


Ernie Simpson – Freeway 5 Pro User – http://www.thebigerns.com/freeway/

I know this is an old thread AND I’m probably posting this question in the wrong place but I have scoured the forums and can’t find anyone mentioning the problem (if it IS a problem) I have - namely, my CSS button is NOT turning blue any more. The table button is grey and so is the CSS button, so I am not sure if I am actually IN CSS mode, even though the text below the button indicates that I am - AND the other buttons turn either green or blue - but I just wondered if anyone can tell me why my CSS button is not turning blue and if it matters?

Thanks


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If the text says CSS Layout then thats what you are in.

The Blue/Grey colour is a system preference setting System Preference>Appearance and can be any colour you like.

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Ah, thanks for that info David, I kind of thought it would be just a cosmetic thing, but just wanted to be sure. I couldn’t get carousel to work and thought it might have had something to do with that but I’ve since got carousel to work perfectly so it was just my slow brain that was the problem :wink:


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