The best Freeway designed site?

Once the new version is installed, projects are all converted, and
user-created subfolders (I have two for things like icons, wallpaper,
photos, etc.), any problem simply deleting the folders for the older
versions? Anything else to do first? Anything else to do afterward,
like deleting leftover artifacts?

232 GB is a lot of space, but it will eventually fill up and suffer
fragmentation if we don’t occasionally trash things we don’t need
anymore.

Jim


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Yep, it all depends on the design ability of the creator. I don’t know too many full on designers who use Freeway, but I know many who use that other app. I think Freeway is every bit as capable of matching any other app in design.

My vote for best Freeway designed site I’ve seen is:

The author was soliciting peer reviews on FreewayTalk last week. Great functional and modern site.

I’ve redesigned my site, but hardly know what the @#$# I’m doing. Have some things to fix up, but so far get good vibes from it.

Cecil


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A few done only in v4

http://www.adaptive.com

http://www.kalmalife.co.uk

http://www.newyoubootcamp.com
http://www.mercom.org

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On 30 Mar 2008, at 19:29, Heather Kavanagh wrote:

On 30 Mar 2008, at 19:14, John-Paul Kernot wrote:

but not very inspiring.

Well, thanks. I think.

Is that pic of the two vans (C&H) resized in Freeway by you

Heather? Needs a touch up …

You want the job? Sometimes, the client supplies and you have to make
do.

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“Freeway - Web Design for All”


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On 30/03/2008, Keith Martin email@hidden wrote:

Perhaps what would be better is a ‘Community Gallery’ that people
submit to as they do now, and a ‘Showcase Gallery’ that is selected
from the best of those and anywhere else. Promote the Showcase
gallery more on the site, with the Community gallery being there as
well but not as the first thing a first-time visitor would reach for.

I think there’s value in how the gallery is right now, but I have to
agree that it isn’t great for people wondering how good their Freeway
sites could be.

Maybe, in reference to another thread, it needs a rating system with
the cream rising to the top.


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Nathan,

How do you get the page on a page look?

http://www.adaptive.com


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Sometime around 3/4/08 (at 15:45 -0400) John-Paul Kernot said:

How do you get the page on a page look?

http://www.adaptive.com

Here’s the background image itself:

http://www.adaptive.com/Resources/shadow2.jpg

Remember, a background will (normally) be tiled as much as required
in order to fill the browser window.

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On 30 Mar. 2008, 5:51 pm, John-Paul Kernot wrote:

I have been having a look around the Freeway gallery on the Softpress site. A lot of these web sites are old and are looking less than slick compared with today’s web 2 offerings.

just caught up with this thread, appears to me that it is always easy to critisize all the hard work and endeavour that someone has put into their site and if it does the job required for that person that ought to be good enough - with loads of time money and effort any site could be whipped into shape and made to look web 2, 3 or 43 for that matter.

perhaps the Freeway web gallery could have a voting system of some sort to let the FW users mark them as they see fit and then maybe the best would appear at the top.

perhaps j-pk ought to show his work too ? people in glass houses,etc. and all that stuff !!

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Did I criticise anybody in particular Gary? You’re throwing mud at my glass house! :wink:


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http://www.vbo.nu

http://www.vvfs.nl

http://www.pedicurealblasserdam.nl


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Is “home” a Dutch word?


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It’s not a dutch word it’s used to go back to the index-page; the index-page is ‘home’.


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Home has become one of those international words like “stop”,
“cigarettes”, “David Beckham” and “would you like to meet my sister,
only 5 dollar”

Pete

On 4 Apr 2008, at 08:35, James F. Marshall wrote:

Is “home” a Dutch word?


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With this particular site I have a background image created in photoshop (beige background with a white layer [the white layer must be 800pxl wide as the FW content will sit on it] that has an outer black glow applied - then flattened/cropped and saved as a jpeg) the dimensions are 1600pxl x 20pxl deep.

In FW I have the page setup as 800px wide then in the inspector tab goto Background>Image and choose your background, Hoizontal: Center, Vertical: Tile.

In FW all you’ll see is the white of the background so it’s nice an easy on the eye. When you preview/upload then you’ll be able to see the whole background image.

Hope that makes sense. If not let me know offline and I can send you a sample FW4 document.

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On 3 Apr 2008, at 20:45, John-Paul Kernot wrote:

Nathan,

How do you get the page on a page look?

http://www.adaptive.com


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On 3 Apr. 2008, 11:57 pm, John-Paul Kernot wrote:

Did I criticise anybody in particular Gary? You’re throwing mud at my glass house! :wink:

I didn’t actually say you were criticising, it was meant as a generalisation. The fact is that at least Freeway allows people to submit their work, don’t recall Macromedia or Adobe doing that with DW or GoLive.

I want to progress my own work as much as possible and the Freeway community has been as big an influence and an asset as the FW program itself. It is a learning curve and websites I did in my first use of FW three years ago I would now produce very differently, but as always cost and time do not allow me the luxury of updating sites at will or for free.

If you need to see some top notch web design you can look here http://bestwebgallery.com/ or here http://www.cssbeauty.com/gallery/

I’m sure that with a bit of work most of these sites can be produced using Freeway.

As regards the glass houses bit it was not meant as an insult, purely that I think if you start a topic it is good to back it up with a few examples - yours or someone elses - at least to get your point across.

Gary

PS these are two I did, I’m sure they are not perfect but they fill the brief and the clients love them.

http://www.linksproject.co.uk/index.html
http://www.westcroftdesign.co.uk/index.html


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No insults intended, no criticism of your sites either, just pure
observation. You last statement can equally be an accolade or a worry!
The acid test is do the client’s customers love them? I’ve known a
client or two who know exactly what they like, regardless of what
might work a good deal better or upset a designer’s sensibility even
on a bad day! :wink:

Colin

On 4 Apr 2008, at 15:13, diarbyrag wrote:

… but they fill the brief and the clients love them.

http://www.linksproject.co.uk/index.html
http://www.westcroftdesign.co.uk/index.html


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The new Softpress home page does Freeway no favours. The design they chose for the example of what can be done with Freeway is very amateur looking. In no way does it reflect the complex CSS driven sites that can be created using the software. Rather it looks like a site a kid might produce using a Frontpage template.

I agree with Keith’s comment above about a Showcase gallery. Maybe this could feature as the new home page with rotating images of the best, most professional looking sites. Would also be a nice reward for the designers and encourage submissions of these kinds of sites.


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Sorry, I disagree. I think the Softpress site is clean, elegant and very navigable. I would rather have something like this than one full of bells 7 whistles that you can’t find your way around.

On 8 Apr 2008, at 09:53, ralfy wrote:

The new Softpress home page does Freeway no favours.

I wasn’t slagging off the whole site. Just the image of the website they use as an example on the home page.

On 8 Apr. 2008, 10:00 am, Trevreav wrote:

Sorry, I disagree. I think the Softpress site is clean, elegant and very navigable.


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Agreed to a certain extent, but I reckon that the thinking behind it
is to let new visitors see how easy it is to use, I don’t know, I’m
not associated to SP in any way, I just use the stuff!
On 8 Apr 2008, at 11:16, ralfy wrote:

I wasn’t slagging off the whole site. Just the image of the website
they use as an example on the home page.


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Sometime around 8/4/08 (at 06:16 -0400) ralfy said:

I wasn’t slagging off the whole site. Just the image of the website
they use as an example on the home page.

I agree to an extent, too. It strikes me as something more suited to
the time-bound needs of a live demo or tailored to a Freeway
Express-specific online audience.

It is a difficult balance to strike, but I would prefer to see
something that presents a more aspirational design, something that
people would like to be able to design, rather than something that
people automatically feel is ‘their level’. Or, getting back to your
point, something that people feel is below their level. This doesn’t
present Freeway in quite as good a light as it deserves.

As a follow-on comment, although template-bound web site production
from iWeb and the like is not really web ‘design’, the better
templates in those tools are exceptionally slick. I think that’s
actually raised the bar to an extent for all web design software.
Marketing material should be created with this in mind.

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