Unread message count funky

Walt, I know this is a web site problem so those who only receive emails from the list won’t know what i’m talking about, but all this week I have been seeing unread message counts that I then cannot find the messages for.

As and example, I had an unread count of 8 showing for the Freewaytalk list, but after going back, one by one, through TWO MONTHS of posts I never found the unread messages! Has something changed at the server end that might cause this?


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If it’s any consolation, I’ve been seeing the same thing here lately. Nothing has changed, but I’ll take a look next week when I’m back from vacation. In the meantime, go to the My Account page and click on the button labeled Clean Up Unread Counts and let it spin until it’s done.

Walter


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Hi

Thank god it’s not only me. I’ve been getting that as well. Had 9 unread messages on Freewaytalk list yesterday, that I could not find.

Regards

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Very Off topic but as you are all mac people here I thought id ask. I
have two macs a laptop and a G5 tower recently the tower has got
extremely slow on its internet connection. Its run fine for years The
laptop is running exactly how it should. Is there anything I can run
to test whats wrong on the tower. I have obviously restarted
everything wireless router etc.

thank you

Adam

On 4 Sep 2010, at 07:39, Gray Owl wrote:

Hi

Thank god it’s not only me. I’ve been getting that as well. Had 9
unread messages on Freewaytalk list yesterday, that I could not find.

Regards

Lee


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Try installing ClickToFlash, for one immediate Internet speedup. Have you ruled out the usual things that could be physically or virtually wrong with the G5? Boot from the DVD and run disk utility in earnest (permissions and disk repair).

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on 07/09/2010 14:33, adam harras at email@hidden wrote:

Very Off topic but as you are all mac people here I thought id ask. I
have two macs a laptop and a G5 tower recently the tower has got
extremely slow on its internet connection. Its run fine for years The
laptop is running exactly how it should. Is there anything I can run
to test whats wrong on the tower. I have obviously restarted
everything wireless router etc.

I install AppleJack on all Macs I come into contact with colleagues friends
and my own.

Basically you start in single user mode and run it. It performs five
important tasks:

[1] repair disks
[2] repair permissions
[3] cleanup cache files
[4] validate preferences files
[5] remove swap files

You can do one-by-one and all and then automatically do a restart, which is
what I usually use.

I ran it recently on a Mac AFAICR with 10.3 where the user complained it
took literally minutes to retrieve a web page after AJ it came up in a
flash!

Dan Frakes review:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-10334620-263.html?tag=mfiredir

Get it here:
http://applejack.sourceforge.net/

Please feel free to donate, I have and it ensures continuing development and
also gives one a warm glow ;~}}

thank you

Adam

On 4 Sep 2010, at 07:39, Gray Owl wrote:

Hi

Thank god it’s not only me. I’ve been getting that as well. Had 9
unread messages on Freewaytalk list yesterday, that I could not find.

Regards

Lee


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Best wishes Peter

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Thanks Guys
I tried Applejack as I cant find my bootup disk. It seems to have made
a huge difference. I will now try it on my laptop G4 to see if it
sorts out this annoying fan whirr.

Adam

On 7 Sep 2010, at 18:14, Peter Tucker wrote:

on 07/09/2010 14:33, adam harras at email@hidden wrote:

Very Off topic but as you are all mac people here I thought id ask. I
have two macs a laptop and a G5 tower recently the tower has got
extremely slow on its internet connection. Its run fine for years The
laptop is running exactly how it should. Is there anything I can run
to test whats wrong on the tower. I have obviously restarted
everything wireless router etc.

I install AppleJack on all Macs I come into contact with colleagues
friends
and my own.

Basically you start in single user mode and run it. It performs five
important tasks:

[1] repair disks
[2] repair permissions
[3] cleanup cache files
[4] validate preferences files
[5] remove swap files

You can do one-by-one and all and then automatically do a restart,
which is
what I usually use.

I ran it recently on a Mac AFAICR with 10.3 where the user
complained it
took literally minutes to retrieve a web page after AJ it came up in a
flash!

Dan Frakes review:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-10334620-263.html?tag=mfiredir

Get it here:
http://applejack.sourceforge.net/

Please feel free to donate, I have and it ensures continuing
development and
also gives one a warm glow ;~}}

thank you

Adam

On 4 Sep 2010, at 07:39, Gray Owl wrote:

Hi

Thank god it’s not only me. I’ve been getting that as well. Had 9
unread messages on Freewaytalk list yesterday, that I could not
find.

Regards

Lee


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Walter, just loaded this and what a difference it makes - especially
on the Yahoo homepage which was increasingly taking longer and longer
to load with little Flash banners that I didn’t want to see anyway.

Good Call.

Trev

On 7 Sep 2010, at 15:24, waltd wrote:

Try installing ClickToFlash, for one immediate Internet speedup.
Have you ruled out the usual things that could be physically or
virtually wrong with the G5? Boot from the DVD and run disk utility
in earnest (permissions and disk repair).

Walter


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I think that the latest version of Flash is only truly usable on
Intel. They provide a PPC version in the bundle, but they must spend
about ten or twenty seconds on optimizing that branch of the code any
more. I have an 8-core Intel Pro, and I still run ClickToFlash. But
mostly because I hate looking at the ads.

Walter

On Sep 9, 2010, at 7:01 AM, Trevor Reaveley wrote:

Walter, just loaded this and what a difference it makes - especially
on the Yahoo homepage which was increasingly taking longer and
longer to load with little Flash banners that I didn’t want to see
anyway.

Good Call.

Trev

On 7 Sep 2010, at 15:24, waltd wrote:

Try installing ClickToFlash, for one immediate Internet speedup.
Have you ruled out the usual things that could be physically or
virtually wrong with the G5? Boot from the DVD and run disk utility
in earnest (permissions and disk repair).

Walter


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Walter I run Firefox is it Safari only? Computer has sped up but my
connection is still intermittent.

Adam

On 9 Sep 2010, at 14:50, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

I think that the latest version of Flash is only truly usable on
Intel. They provide a PPC version in the bundle, but they must spend
about ten or twenty seconds on optimizing that branch of the code
any more. I have an 8-core Intel Pro, and I still run ClickToFlash.
But mostly because I hate looking at the ads.

Walter

On Sep 9, 2010, at 7:01 AM, Trevor Reaveley wrote:

Walter, just loaded this and what a difference it makes -
especially on the Yahoo homepage which was increasingly taking
longer and longer to load with little Flash banners that I didn’t
want to see anyway.

Good Call.

Trev

On 7 Sep 2010, at 15:24, waltd wrote:

Try installing ClickToFlash, for one immediate Internet speedup.
Have you ruled out the usual things that could be physically or
virtually wrong with the G5? Boot from the DVD and run disk
utility in earnest (permissions and disk repair).

Walter


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Yes, it’s a plug-in for Safari. There are similar blockers for Firefox
– look in the View/Add-ons menu for a start.

Walter

On Sep 9, 2010, at 9:55 AM, adam harras wrote:

Walter I run Firefox is it Safari only? Computer has sped up but my
connection is still intermittent.


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Try this to see if you can spot a pattern:

  1. Open /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app

  2. Type in the following: ping www.apple.com and press Return.

  3. Watch as ping sends a packet every second to one of Apple’s Akamai
    edge servers.

  4. Pay attention to the time at the end of each returned ping. This
    number ideally will be in the tens to very low hundreds of
    milliseconds per packet. If this time fluctuates, or is very slow
    every time, those are both instructive.

  5. When you get tired of looking at this, you can press Command . or
    Control c to cancel the operation. When you do, ping will end with a
    nice statistic of nnn packets sent, nnn packets received, n% packet
    loss, average time etc.

If you see a pattern of drops or a series of really long ping times,
copy a big block of them from the Terminal and open a Help Desk ticket
with your ISP and paste that into the ticket. This sort of debugging
can be very useful to your ISP, or at least indicative to them that
you’re not some clueless newbie who’s “trying to find the Google” on
their computer.

Walter

On Sep 9, 2010, at 9:55 AM, adam harras wrote:

my connection is still intermittent


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Thanks Walter

this is what I got from this machine not sure if its showing me
anything or not. I do know my internet is awful at the moment, not
down, but not right.

64 bytes from 92.123.129.15: icmp_seq=67 ttl=55 time=44.977 ms
64 bytes from 92.123.129.15: icmp_seq=68 ttl=55 time=38.432 ms
64 bytes from 92.123.129.15: icmp_seq=69 ttl=55 time=29.479 ms
64 bytes from 92.123.129.15: icmp_seq=71 ttl=55 time=22.051 ms
64 bytes from 92.123.129.15: icmp_seq=73 ttl=55 time=51.611 ms
64 bytes from 92.123.129.15: icmp_seq=74 ttl=55 time=26.076 ms
64 bytes from 92.123.129.15: icmp_seq=75 ttl=55 time=25.685 ms
64 bytes from 92.123.129.15: icmp_seq=76 ttl=55 time=28.948 ms
64 bytes from 92.123.129.15: icmp_seq=77 ttl=55 time=23.268 ms
64 bytes from 92.123.129.15: icmp_seq=78 ttl=55 time=44.049 ms
64 bytes from 92.123.129.15: icmp_seq=79 ttl=55 time=19.800 ms
64 bytes from 92.123.129.15: icmp_seq=80 ttl=55 time=17.434 ms
64 bytes from 92.123.129.15: icmp_seq=81 ttl=55 time=28.490 ms
64 bytes from 92.123.129.15: icmp_seq=84 ttl=55 time=38.829 ms
64 bytes from 92.123.129.15: icmp_seq=85 ttl=55 time=27.041 ms
64 bytes from 92.123.129.15: icmp_seq=86 ttl=55 time=37.404 ms
64 bytes from 92.123.129.15: icmp_seq=87 ttl=55 time=66.781 ms
64 bytes from 92.123.129.15: icmp_seq=89 ttl=55 time=115.954 ms
64 bytes from 92.123.129.15: icmp_seq=90 ttl=55 time=25.209 ms

This going through a wireless router into their modem, obviously
already tried turning things on and off. Is it worth resetting the
wireless router to factory? Is it possible its a wireless card problem
in this machine?

thank as usual for your time

Adam

On 9 Sep 2010, at 17:42, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

Try this to see if you can spot a pattern:

  1. Open /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app

  2. Type in the following: ping www.apple.com and press Return.

  3. Watch as ping sends a packet every second to one of Apple’s
    Akamai edge servers.

  4. Pay attention to the time at the end of each returned ping. This
    number ideally will be in the tens to very low hundreds of
    milliseconds per packet. If this time fluctuates, or is very slow
    every time, those are both instructive.

  5. When you get tired of looking at this, you can press Command .
    or Control c to cancel the operation. When you do, ping will end
    with a nice statistic of nnn packets sent, nnn packets received, n%
    packet loss, average time etc.

If you see a pattern of drops or a series of really long ping times,
copy a big block of them from the Terminal and open a Help Desk
ticket with your ISP and paste that into the ticket. This sort of
debugging can be very useful to your ISP, or at least indicative to
them that you’re not some clueless newbie who’s “trying to find the
Google” on their computer.

Walter

On Sep 9, 2010, at 9:55 AM, adam harras wrote:

my connection is still intermittent


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Yeah, it looks like it’s dropping packets left and right. File a
ticket with your ISP, tell them you have significant packet loss. Send
them the logs if they ask, but if you leave it hanging in the air that
you know what packet loss is and that you have it, they will probably
jump on this quicker than the average “I can’t find the Googles”
request they often get.

Packet loss is a foundation problem and nothing about your service
will get better until they find and kill whatever the problem is. In
my case, the phone company had to rip out the wire and run a new one.
Damned squirrels!

Walter

On Sep 17, 2010, at 1:49 PM, adam harras wrote:

Thanks Walter

this is what I got from this machine not sure if its showing me
anything or not. I do know my internet is awful at the moment, not
down, but not right.


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Thanks Walter

I’ll get on it.

Adam

On 17 Sep 2010, at 19:02, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

Yeah, it looks like it’s dropping packets left and right. File a
ticket with your ISP, tell them you have significant packet loss.
Send them the logs if they ask, but if you leave it hanging in the
air that you know what packet loss is and that you have it, they
will probably jump on this quicker than the average “I can’t find
the Googles” request they often get.

Packet loss is a foundation problem and nothing about your service
will get better until they find and kill whatever the problem is. In
my case, the phone company had to rip out the wire and run a new
one. Damned squirrels!

Walter

On Sep 17, 2010, at 1:49 PM, adam harras wrote:

Thanks Walter

this is what I got from this machine not sure if its showing me
anything or not. I do know my internet is awful at the moment, not
down, but not right.


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Thought id let you know Walter as its kind of funny(NOT). Contacted
the provider, got to talk to a nice man in India. He says I am quite
fortunate as there have been other complaints from my area and they
are already aware of the problem and are hot on the case. They have
some engineers booked in for a week next thursday! Typical.

Thanks for your help again, i’ll just have to put up with it until the
cavalry arrive a week next Thursday.

kind regards

Adam

On 17 Sep 2010, at 19:02, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

Yeah, it looks like it’s dropping packets left and right. File a
ticket with your ISP, tell them you have significant packet loss.
Send them the logs if they ask, but if you leave it hanging in the
air that you know what packet loss is and that you have it, they
will probably jump on this quicker than the average “I can’t find
the Googles” request they often get.

Packet loss is a foundation problem and nothing about your service
will get better until they find and kill whatever the problem is. In
my case, the phone company had to rip out the wire and run a new
one. Damned squirrels!

Walter

On Sep 17, 2010, at 1:49 PM, adam harras wrote:

Thanks Walter

this is what I got from this machine not sure if its showing me
anything or not. I do know my internet is awful at the moment, not
down, but not right.


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