Thanks for the replies, Jeremy. You’ve written what I hoped you would, that the other apps SP released were testing and learning experiences in Cocoa, and that it would eventually come to FW.
Glad that you’re still around!
Joe
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I’m certainly overjoyed to hear this. For months I’ve been dwelling long and hard on what Freeway alternatives might suit me, but I was never led astray – I still use Freeway. The fact that Swift will play a potential role in any new offerings is exciting to hear.
Jeremy, I’m pleased to hear you will still be a major contributor.
I would also like to offer my sincere thanks to Richard Logan, who no doubt was key to making this resurrection possible.
Best wishes,
James Wages
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I’d be interested to know where things will be a year from now. I’ve been using FW for over a decade and am now update our old corporate site to responsive. Yesterday, for example, I had to pull a version from a backup from five hours earlier because a corruption that had snuck in (one example of many: suddenly all unformatted text defaulted to italic, right-justified). Lots of crashing and weirdness of the sort that begs for more than a patch. Redoing five hours of work…
I have no idea what’s going on at SP but I am wondering how much development can take place over a year for a complete rewrite and testing, regardless of new features. My needs are for stability, first and foremost, followed by better handling of responsive, followed by the ability to copy and paste divs without crashing.
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On 2 Feb 2017, 2:20 pm, Trey Yancy wrote:
Redoing five hours of work…
I realise it’s a workaround, but for certain specific things, it can be a lifesaver:
I use Chronosync to backup a single folder on a 5 minutes schedule. It works seamlessly in the background, uses very little resources and can do it across a network (extremely quickly if you use ChronoAgent to go with it).
With FW you would still need to ‘Save’ your work continuously as you go along, because Chronosync (or any other backup app) won’t back it up unless the Modification Date has changed. However, doing a scheduled backup like this, would mean that you would only ever loose 5 minutes of work at most.
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Thanks.
As a precaution I’ve been saving separate versions once an hour, with basic saves after every change. I had to work my way back by half a day because using any of the later backups would result in the same creeping corruption. In this instance, the last healthy version had been five hours earlier.
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I’m glad to see that Softpress is alive and kicking, and that Freeway will finally be built anew. I can’t wait to see how things stand in a year or two. Congratulations to the whole team!
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Hi Jeremy,
Have you or the Softpress team ever considered switching instead to more open frameworks, such as Electron or NW.js ? In doing so you would not be locked into system or vender specific frameworks, and could open up the software to more users overall and increase the revenue streams for Softpress and Freeway Pro.
Perhaps something to consider. Your thoughts?
On 2 Feb 2017, 12:15 pm, Jeremy Hughes wrote:
When this is finished, I plan to start rewriting Freeway in Cocoa and Swift. Freeway needs to be rewritten from the ground up, so the current version is going to be around for a while. We’re planning to release a minor upgrade soon, with some bug fixes.
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This is a most timely notification. I was just minutes away from buying RapidWeaver when I decided to check in one more time on Freeway Talk. I downloaded many of the other apps to experiment with but none really grabbed me.
I’ve retired now so I can patiently wait for the new upgrades and work with Freeway and Backdraft. Thanks to all that have helped me thru the years and I’ll save up for whatever is required in the future.
All the best and thanks for your dedication.
-Chod Lang
(now living in the Azores!)
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Thank you Jeremy for your input. I agree with others where I believe that WHOVER you use needs to be paid and I have always got the latest FW uploads, it’s not just about saving a few pounds here and there, it’s basically common sense. The recent fall of SP bears testament to that, those who didn’t suffered accordingly. I work and expect people to pay me!. I am just so pleased that at least SP are back and despite looking at the pros of Coffee Club (a plenty) I will definitely give FW my utmost effort. I had been using it last few months and feeling guilty when going to clients and setting up new websites thinking I was going to have to change platforms. Fingers crossed for SP and fingers crossed for US, Cheers Dave Streeten
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Trey Yancy: Jeremy is a clever stick - he’s managed to solve some truly tricky things in the past (some which I managed to under during my times with Softpress), so I am confident that a Swift/Cocoa re-write ins well within his capabilities. No doubt as things move on with Softpress, they’ll pull in more talent to help. A year? Well, even with the six-month hiatus, that’s pretty much in line with Softpress in the past where updates were fairly well spaced apart.
Be patient.
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Thank you, thank you, Jeremy! This forum has a fair number of “experts.” But lurking and learning here are (I believe) a large number of us amateurs.
I’ve used Freeway since 3.5 and have no complaints at all. I know it well enough to put out a pretty decent website that’s getting almost 50K unique visitors monthly. I’m an old man and cannot tackle the learning curve of completely new software. I intend to stick to my favorite (Freeway) until I assume room temperature. You all are a blessing!
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I just wrote a glowing post that took long enough to write that I was silently logged off and the content was lost when I hit the post button.
The short version: I have been a published software reviewer for 16 years, covering applications ranging from the basics to software that retailed at $8K a pop… When I first got my hands on FW, I was extremely impressed by the combination of ease of use, power, and the creativity it inspired; making it one of only four serious apps I’ve ever used that I would describe as being fun. And, while this is superficial, the packaging, presentation, spiral-bound documentation, made an impression as well – telling me that the people at SP really “got” it.
I confess that when the responsive features appeared, I decided not to publish; choosing to wait for certain issues to be resolved. Hopefully, the unfortunate turn of events this Summer will result in a version of Freeway that will reclaim the crown of best of category.
With my day job as a CD, I have to wear far too many hats and have so much going on in my 50 hour week that I sometimes must rely on the FW forum for assistance (thanks to Dan, Erns and everyone else) but I will say that while I’ve tried nearly every alternative (and even purchased several apps when the trial periods expired, and every one of them has a huge “gotcha” of one type or another. FW remains my platform of choice.
Reviewers are supposed to be objective, but I am definitely looking forward to FW8. There is clearly a lot to do and I’ll continue to cheer for the FW people every step of the way.
Okay, so it wasn’t a short version…
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This is such awesome news and like others on here very timely. I’m on the verge of potentially picking up a very large web project and feeling guilty that I may be producing it with defunct software. I’ve been using Freeway for more years than I can remember and love the programme, faults and all. Yet in the last year I took web design to much higher levels than I had ever before as I learned, through css coding, to fine tune websites to work responsively on any device/screen, so I was devasted at the previous news and overjoyed at the latest news.
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Thankyou Trey for your encouraging words. Yes, the RESPONSIVE element is the future and I guess where SP (and myself) were lagging. I only hope that with the extra CONSTRAINTS re responsive we will still have much of the original flexibility re FW and ease of use - similar to FW Pro 7. I will always support FW and will be happy to pay what it’s worth, Dave Streeten
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These are amazing good news!! Happy to hear that!!
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Great news.
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I know that it’s apples and oranges but Hype’s approach to responsive design is very fluid.
I don’t know who’s monitoring the forum on the part of SP, but they should also look at the relationship of breakpoints in responsive. FW takes a breakpoint and condenses the content down to the next narrower breakpoint. Spreading up to the next breakpoint is a better approach.
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Good point Trey, but Coffee Club offer both working big and going small and vice versa, I personally prefer the former but see merit also in the latter
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For months I have been in a dilemma of trying to decide what to do next as far as building anymore websites for my clients. And for months I have been trying to check out the alternative softwares for this. Though I am using the Adobe CC package, I do not want to get stuck into having to forever keep it. (In other words I am not using Muse.)
I was recently given a huge project by my best client and I had to tell him that I did not have my web editing software anymore and was checking out new apps. For about a month I thought that I would be going with Pinegrow, but I simply do not know HTML and CSS enough to even attempt using that software. Then I was within hours of buying Sparkle when I found out about SoftPress coming back to life. YES!!!
I always paid for the upgrades to FW Pro when they came out and bought Exhibeo too. So keep the upgrades coming and I will keep paying for them!
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With big-to-small I don’t see a point to the lowest breakpoint in FW having any content at all. One thing I’ve had to contend with was that the small-to-big approach of Hype is the opposite of FW. If I had set up different heights for various breakpoints (important with the narrowest breakpoints) Things would be jumping all over the place when I resized a window or zoomed. I’ve had to make all my Hype projects have identical heights across all breakpoints.
When I can work from the minimum size and stretch it I knowhow things will fit. Working from the opposite direction requires jumping back and forth, tweaking and re-tweaking. If FW can support both, that would be great, but if it were only one direction I find that small-to-big saves time (but I do like the big-to-small inheritance of the style sheets).
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