Upload Only New or Modified Files

I had uploaded our new site yesterday and my colleague noticed an error on one page (in an placed Illustrator file).

I made the correction, updated the pic and uploaded again and the entire site uploaded and it’s 32 mb because we have quite a lot of PDF downloads, so it took quite a while to go up.

The changed image is only on one page.

Is there a way to make Freeway only upload what was changed?

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Am I missing something obvious on this or is it just not possible?


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Freeway usually only uploads changed files, but it depends on the Finder to give it straight information on when individual files were last modified.

Does your Mac lose time? Clock battery going?

Does this problem repeat? If you upload the site, then change one thing on one page (not a master page) and upload again, do all pages upload again?

What Actions, if any, do you have applied to the pages and or folders of your site?

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No, no computer clock problems.

The page itself has only nav links and one image (the one that got updated), but FW uploaded all pages, files and PDFs.

I can MAYBE understand that it would upload pages, but there’s a lot of PDFs that weren’t touched or moved and they were all uploaded, too.


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If they were linked from the page that changed, then they would be uploaded as well. This is a pain, I agree. When a page gets “dirtied”, every resource referenced from it is also dirtied as well.

I have had to split the PDF index pages out of sites in the past, and publish them from a separate Freeway document, in order to get around this problem (large number of large PDFs, and it could take hours for the entire site to upload).

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When I used GoLive, I believe that would recognize what was “touched”, show you a list, and upload just that.

So, do you think the fact that the navigation on all the pages is causing that to happen?

Also, I always have to Publish Everything in order to see changes in the browser preview. Does this change times on the files? Could that be the culprit?

Just seems odd…


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On 13 Aug 2008, 8:58 pm, Robert Bovasso wrote:

Also, I always have to Publish Everything in order to see changes in the browser preview. Does this change times on the files? Could that be the culprit?

GoLive uses a different metaphor for pages and publishing, much more “down to the metal” than Freeway. So I’m not surprised that it was seeing no changes on individual elements on the page. Freeway takes a different approach, and if anything changes on the page, the entire dependency tree for that page is re-built. Normally (that is to say, with web-sized graphics) this is a great approach and keeps things from getting messed up or becoming a combination of new dimensions and stale graphics. But if you have used Actions to link to large files, then this conservative approach will shoot you in the foot.

As to Publish Everything being the culprit, I would say enthusiastically, YES! That deletes all trace of your site in your local publish folder and builds everything again from scratch. Which would change the modification date (naturally) on every last thing in your site.

Best to get to the bottom of why you need to use this large gun, because that’s surely the root of problem you are experiencing here.

When you do Publish Everything, what sorts of changes are you trying to see, and failing to see?

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Well, my “partner in crime” is at another location and I send her the Site folder to look at it in a browser on her HD. Many times she has told me that things I changed weren’t changed even though she refreshed pages. I checked at my end and had the same problem. Once I Publish Everything, all is OK.

I did think it was odd that I had to do that all the time. Had to do that on the other site I finished in FW, also.


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That’s not normal, just so you know. There must be something unique about your situation that is forcing it to behave this way. The vast majority of Freeway users don’t have to do this. It would be good to get to the bottom of this, since clearly it impacts your workflow.

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Well, not sure what info I can provide that would be different than others.

I let FW set up the site in a folder. The FW file resides in the folder with all my elements. In there is the Site folder also. So the FW file is outside the Site folder and they both reside in another folder that contains all the elements that I place (which may also be in yet another folder, but IN the same folder as everything else).

Hopefully that makes sense…


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When you are forced into using Publish Everything, what are you trying to see and not getting in Preview or Preview in Browser? What sorts of changes are you making, and where in your site, and not seeing reflected in the previews?

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I know some were just text changes, but others were fairly major changes (adding, deleting, or moving images).


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And were you previewing using Freeway’s built-in preview view, or in a real browser?

Are you able to repeat this problem?

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Also, what version of Mac OS X, what hardware, and what version of Safari do you have installed?

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I never use FW’s preview. I preview in Firefox 2.0.0.16. Intel iMac running 10.4.11.

Well, it’s happened a few times during the creation of the to sites I was working on.

Eventually, I just automatically Published Everything after a few updates or before I sent it to my co-worker.

When should that normally be used?

Thanks for spending the time on this with me.


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Instead of using the ‘publish everything’ command why no just use the
“Force Publish” in the Page menu. This way your changes will be
published for the specific page and when you send the site file the
changes should be there.

Andy

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I never use FW’s preview. I preview in Firefox 2.0.0.16. Intel iMac running 10.4.11.

Well, it’s happened a few times during the creation of the to sites I was working on.

Eventually, I just automatically Published Everything after a few updates or before I sent it to my co-worker.

When should that normally be used?

Thanks for spending the time on this with me.


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On 13 Aug 2008, at 00:16, Robert Bovasso wrote:

Is there a way to make Freeway only upload what was changed?

There should be a way around this, maybe to have different folders .

I’m quite sure this question has been dealt with some time ago, good
luck,
important for me too…

BW; O K N


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Publish Everything is a big gun, to be brought out when nothing else seems to work. If you have Actions on your page that publish external files, then sometimes you will need to use that to “wake up” the Action and get it to publish updated information. But it’s hidden behind the Control key for a reason – it’s not a day-to-day thing that you need.

Often, especially when you are working locally, you will see an aggressive cache in your browser insist on holding on to the old version of the site and not showing you changes that you know you made.

One way around this is to add a question mark at the end of the URL. Then click Return to load the “new” URL.

Another is to hold down the Shift key while pressing the reload button.

Walter


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Thanks for the tips. I’ll try to remember those for the next site or site update.

Thanks again for all of your help!

Bob


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