Dan,
I checked this - each page is 960 x 1000
I don’t understand why that is happening, Any help would be gratefully appreciated.
Julie
On Feb 23, 2011, at 3:56 AM, Dan J wrote:
- Your page lengths, height wise, are inconsistent. For example the Why Choose, and Welcome pages have a healthy white gap underneath it but none of the other pages do.
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The brown background stretched out, I’m 50/50 on it. I think it’s missing something and that might be the graphic stretched out at the top or to tile it using just the grass and the brown.
Here’s a thumbnail of something I saw on another site that was more like what I was thinking.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3640378/bramnicholson.jpg
Not including the white background, just the grass tiling and background setting.
As far as your page length issue the browser will only wrap itself around the content that exists and the height of the page in Freeway makes no difference in the browser. You could set it to 1 million and it wouldn’t make a difference. What I typically do is set a floating HTML item at the bottom, layered, and just leave it empty with no color or type settings. Set it to be about 35px from your bottom-most content (not the FW page) and then publish it. If this was an authentic box-model you’d set either padding or margin, but I typically set padding as I haven’t had great success with margin in IE.
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On 23 Feb 2011, at 19:13, Dan J wrote:
Set it to be about 35px from your bottom
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Set it to be about 35px from your bottom
That would be ‘fanny’ for our US readers which means something totally different over here!
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I will try these. and post when I see something good.
Thank you
J
On Feb 23, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Dan J wrote:
The brown background stretched out, I’m 50/50 on it. I think it’s missing something and that might be the graphic stretched out at the top or to tile it using just the grass and the brown.
Here’s a thumbnail of something I saw on another site that was more like what I was thinking.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3640378/bramnicholson.jpg
Not including the white background, just the grass tiling and background setting.
As far as your page length issue the browser will only wrap itself around the content that exists and the height of the page in Freeway makes no difference in the browser. You could set it to 1 million and it wouldn’t make a difference. What I typically do is set a floating HTML item at the bottom, layered, and just leave it empty with no color or type settings. Set it to be about 35px from your bottom-most content (not the FW page) and then publish it. If this was an authentic box-model you’d set either padding or margin, but I typically set padding as I haven’t had great success with margin in IE.
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I really have to say I appreciate all of you…
I know I am not awesome yet…
but, I will tell you while looking and working with a site (now needs some info changed) that I did 2 years ago,
I have to say I have greatly improved.
sorry had to say it.
and these things that all of you are mentioning - are wonderful tips ideas tweaks. but it still is better than my old site.
Thank you again for helping me get from - crappy to at least decent.
J
On Feb 23, 2011, at 4:49 PM, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:
I will try these. and post when I see something good.
Thank you
J
On Feb 23, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Dan J wrote:The brown background stretched out, I’m 50/50 on it. I think it’s missing something and that might be the graphic stretched out at the top or to tile it using just the grass and the brown.
Here’s a thumbnail of something I saw on another site that was more like what I was thinking.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3640378/bramnicholson.jpg
Not including the white background, just the grass tiling and background setting.
As far as your page length issue the browser will only wrap itself around the content that exists and the height of the page in Freeway makes no difference in the browser. You could set it to 1 million and it wouldn’t make a difference. What I typically do is set a floating HTML item at the bottom, layered, and just leave it empty with no color or type settings. Set it to be about 35px from your bottom-most content (not the FW page) and then publish it. If this was an authentic box-model you’d set either padding or margin, but I typically set padding as I haven’t had great success with margin in IE.
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Easy Dave. If you look there’s a hyphen in there as sadly I read the same thing before I posted it.
Expect the unexpected.
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Dan,
here is the site with the background you are suggesting.
I used the action full background. I tried it with adding it to the page - but the tiling was off due to the fading of the yellow on top - you could see a definite line. maybe I shouldn’t gradient - but I do like that look…
the only issue I am seeing - and maybe I am doing something wrong - but since the header is so dictated by positioning with the grass - that if the browser causes this to go past the “edges” and you have to scroll, the background stays but all moves out of alignment.
let me know what you think. please. (and everyone else too)
I want to get this done before the html box insert.
http://www.grassrootsweb.net/grw
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J
On Feb 23, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Dan J wrote:
The brown background stretched out, I’m 50/50 on it. I think it’s missing something and that might be the graphic stretched out at the top or to tile it using just the grass and the brown.
Here’s a thumbnail of something I saw on another site that was more like what I was thinking.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3640378/bramnicholson.jpg
Not including the white background, just the grass tiling and background setting.
As far as your page length issue the browser will only wrap itself around the content that exists and the height of the page in Freeway makes no difference in the browser. You could set it to 1 million and it wouldn’t make a difference. What I typically do is set a floating HTML item at the bottom, layered, and just leave it empty with no color or type settings. Set it to be about 35px from your bottom-most content (not the FW page) and then publish it. If this was an authentic box-model you’d set either padding or margin, but I typically set padding as I haven’t had great success with margin in IE.
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Ditch the FB action - doesn’t work with your header in landscape on iOS and just create a standard bg for the top of the page
I think I would use a relatively low res/compressed image 1920 wide
David
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Dave is right. You could have just the grass image tiling up top and then have your page background color be the brown color. Color value #2f1702.
Overall I like this a bit better than the white gap. Inevitably it’s up to you. I think once the graphic background is situated this should be ok. I’d also consider moving up the Grassroots logo and pushing down the opening hello and the menu system to let the space breathe a bit.
Do you like it with the full background or did you like the white stripes on the side and underneath?
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For what it’s worth, I think that having the background across the entire browser window looks a zillion times better. The impact is much greater. Also, I don’t know if all that brown is supposed to be underground, that is, where the grass roots go and grow, but if it is, I never realized that until I took a look at the full-screen background. If you didn’t mean that signification, it’s really not a bad one at all, given the site’s name.
Just my own aesthetic point of view.
Martin
Signal Mountain, TN
On Feb 23, 2011, at 10:40 PM, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:
Dan,
here is the site with the background you are suggesting.
I used the action full background. I tried it with adding it to the page - but the tiling was off due to the fading of the yellow on top - you could see a definite line. maybe I shouldn’t gradient - but I do like that look…
the only issue I am seeing - and maybe I am doing something wrong - but since the header is so dictated by positioning with the grass - that if the browser causes this to go past the “edges” and you have to scroll, the background stays but all moves out of alignment.
let me know what you think. please. (and everyone else too)
I want to get this done before the html box insert.
http://www.grassrootsweb.net/grw
original:
Thanks
J
On Feb 23, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Dan J wrote:
The brown background stretched out, I’m 50/50 on it. I think it’s missing something and that might be the graphic stretched out at the top or to tile it using just the grass and the brown.
Here’s a thumbnail of something I saw on another site that was more like what I was thinking.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3640378/bramnicholson.jpg
Not including the white background, just the grass tiling and background setting.
As far as your page length issue the browser will only wrap itself around the content that exists and the height of the page in Freeway makes no difference in the browser. You could set it to 1 million and it wouldn’t make a difference. What I typically do is set a floating HTML item at the bottom, layered, and just leave it empty with no color or type settings. Set it to be about 35px from your bottom-most content (not the FW page) and then publish it. If this was an authentic box-model you’d set either padding or margin, but I typically set padding as I haven’t had great success with margin in IE.
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Thank you Martin.
It is…that was my thought process. Glad you see that.
Ok Dan and Dave and all else:
how do you like it with the full background?
J
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On Feb 24, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Rice Martin wrote:
For what it’s worth, I think that having the background across the entire browser window looks a zillion times better. The impact is much greater. Also, I don’t know if all that brown is supposed to be underground, that is, where the grass roots go and grow, but if it is, I never realized that until I took a look at the full-screen background. If you didn’t mean that signification, it’s really not a bad one at all, given the site’s name.
Just my own aesthetic point of view.
Martin
Signal Mountain, TNOn Feb 23, 2011, at 10:40 PM, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:
Dan,
here is the site with the background you are suggesting.
I used the action full background. I tried it with adding it to the page - but the tiling was off due to the fading of the yellow on top - you could see a definite line. maybe I shouldn’t gradient - but I do like that look…
the only issue I am seeing - and maybe I am doing something wrong - but since the header is so dictated by positioning with the grass - that if the browser causes this to go past the “edges” and you have to scroll, the background stays but all moves out of alignment.
let me know what you think. please. (and everyone else too)
I want to get this done before the html box insert.
http://www.grassrootsweb.net/grw
original:
Thanks
J
On Feb 23, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Dan J wrote:
The brown background stretched out, I’m 50/50 on it. I think it’s missing something and that might be the graphic stretched out at the top or to tile it using just the grass and the brown.
Here’s a thumbnail of something I saw on another site that was more like what I was thinking.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3640378/bramnicholson.jpg
Not including the white background, just the grass tiling and background setting.
As far as your page length issue the browser will only wrap itself around the content that exists and the height of the page in Freeway makes no difference in the browser. You could set it to 1 million and it wouldn’t make a difference. What I typically do is set a floating HTML item at the bottom, layered, and just leave it empty with no color or type settings. Set it to be about 35px from your bottom-most content (not the FW page) and then publish it. If this was an authentic box-model you’d set either padding or margin, but I typically set padding as I haven’t had great success with margin in IE.
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Cheers!
Hi! I am a lurker, building a site for the first time. I just had to chime in and thank you all for your posts and insights. I have learned so much just following threads such as this one, and by the way, I really like the site, grassrootsweb!
Frank
On Feb 24, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Rice Martin wrote:
For what it’s worth, I think that having the background across the entire browser window looks a zillion times better. The impact is much greater. Also, I don’t know if all that brown is supposed to be underground, that is, where the grass roots go and grow, but if it is, I never realized that until I took a look at the full-screen background. If you didn’t mean that signification, it’s really not a bad one at all, given the site’s name.
Just my own aesthetic point of view.
Martin
Signal Mountain, TN
On Feb 23, 2011, at 10:40 PM, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:
Dan,
here is the site with the background you are suggesting.
I used the action full background. I tried it with adding it to the page - but the tiling was off due to the fading of the yellow on top - you could see a definite line. maybe I shouldn’t gradient - but I do like that look…
the only issue I am seeing - and maybe I am doing something wrong - but since the header is so dictated by positioning with the grass - that if the browser causes this to go past the “edges” and you have to scroll, the background stays but all moves out of alignment.
let me know what you think. please. (and everyone else too)
I want to get this done before the html box insert.
http://www.grassrootsweb.net/grw
original:
Thanks
J
On Feb 23, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Dan J wrote:
The brown background stretched out, I’m 50/50 on it. I think it’s missing something and that might be the graphic stretched out at the top or to tile it using just the grass and the brown.
Here’s a thumbnail of something I saw on another site that was more like what I was thinking.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3640378/bramnicholson.jpg
Not including the white background, just the grass tiling and background setting.
As far as your page length issue the browser will only wrap itself around the content that exists and the height of the page in Freeway makes no difference in the browser. You could set it to 1 million and it wouldn’t make a difference. What I typically do is set a floating HTML item at the bottom, layered, and just leave it empty with no color or type settings. Set it to be about 35px from your bottom-most content (not the FW page) and then publish it. If this was an authentic box-model you’d set either padding or margin, but I typically set padding as I haven’t had great success with margin in IE.
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Thank you Frank!
I do appreciate it.
Julie
On Feb 24, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Frank H wrote:
Cheers!
Hi! I am a lurker, building a site for the first time. I just had to chime in and thank you all for your posts and insights. I have learned so much just following threads such as this one, and by the way, I really like the site, grassrootsweb!
FrankOn Feb 24, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Rice Martin wrote:
For what it’s worth, I think that having the background across the entire browser window looks a zillion times better. The impact is much greater. Also, I don’t know if all that brown is supposed to be underground, that is, where the grass roots go and grow, but if it is, I never realized that until I took a look at the full-screen background. If you didn’t mean that signification, it’s really not a bad one at all, given the site’s name.
Just my own aesthetic point of view.
Martin
Signal Mountain, TNOn Feb 23, 2011, at 10:40 PM, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:
Dan,
here is the site with the background you are suggesting.
I used the action full background. I tried it with adding it to the page - but the tiling was off due to the fading of the yellow on top - you could see a definite line. maybe I shouldn’t gradient - but I do like that look…
the only issue I am seeing - and maybe I am doing something wrong - but since the header is so dictated by positioning with the grass - that if the browser causes this to go past the “edges” and you have to scroll, the background stays but all moves out of alignment.
let me know what you think. please. (and everyone else too)
I want to get this done before the html box insert.
http://www.grassrootsweb.net/grw
original:
Thanks
J
On Feb 23, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Dan J wrote:
The brown background stretched out, I’m 50/50 on it. I think it’s missing something and that might be the graphic stretched out at the top or to tile it using just the grass and the brown.
Here’s a thumbnail of something I saw on another site that was more like what I was thinking.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3640378/bramnicholson.jpg
Not including the white background, just the grass tiling and background setting.
As far as your page length issue the browser will only wrap itself around the content that exists and the height of the page in Freeway makes no difference in the browser. You could set it to 1 million and it wouldn’t make a difference. What I typically do is set a floating HTML item at the bottom, layered, and just leave it empty with no color or type settings. Set it to be about 35px from your bottom-most content (not the FW page) and then publish it. If this was an authentic box-model you’d set either padding or margin, but I typically set padding as I haven’t had great success with margin in IE.
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Julie - Spelling, spelling and more spelling!
You have heard me many times on this subject and still…
communication peices stationary
There may be others I didn’t read it all.
Also your grass bg image is far too big at nearly 900k (nearly a Meg)
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I did spell check and it did not catch those. I manually checked and fixed…
re ran and came up with nothing else…
I had saved it as a png. then I went back and re saved it for web and devices = brought it down to 227k
Thanks for catching that.
how do you like the full background?
J
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Julie - Spelling, spelling and more spelling!
You have heard me many times on this subject and still…
communication peices stationary
There may be others I didn’t read it all.
Also your grass bg image is far too big at nearly 900k (nearly a Meg)
D
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Hello,
I’m stumped on how to get this sort of thing into a specific spot (would like to use make item into page footer - in html box), let alone get it there at all. I have the same trouble with CSS scrits, I’m just lost with them.
But for now, here is the code:
++++++++++++++++
TIPS FOR A SUCCESSFUL IMPLEMENTATION:
• To ensure that you have all of the code, verify that it begins with the tag “
How’s that again!?!?
I have tried to paste into html boxes, direct paste and every paste in the menu.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Frank
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I did spell check and it did not catch those.
Stationary and Stationery are both legitimate words and a spell check would not flag them. Unfortunately, they’re not interchangeable.
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The one you need is called Insert / Markup Item. Choosing that item
from the main menu will open a dialog where you can paste in your code
– everything except the part at the end with the instructions. When
you okay that dialog, you’ll see a 100px square box on the page with
the emblem < H > in the corner. Click once on that box, and you can
move it, change its dimensions, etc. If you preview, you should see
the code rendered (since Freeway’s preview uses the same WebKit engine
as Safari). If you don’t, at least you can start fiddling from there.
Some of these systems require you to have a unique key (I didn’t look
closely enough to say for sure that this one does) and if that’s the
case, then you may not be able to preview it locally – you may have
to upload it to the same server that you entered when you registered
for your key.
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I have tried to paste into html boxes, direct paste and every paste
in the menu.
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