WebYep... future thoughts and wish list

I know this really should go on the off topic area but I could do with the biggest amount of people seeing it and adding there input so hence why I have put it in this area.

The basic question is what do people really want to be added or changed within the webyep cms to improve it and also improve the freeway integration.

To get the ball rolling these are a few thoughts and ideas:

  1. Complete upgrade of the visual look and usability of the CMS system
  2. icon upgrades.
  3. A proper WebYep richtext editor with its own upload image facility rather than using a third party system like TinyMCE and ckEditor.
  4. A proper menu system in the longtext editor. although I have started on that one.
  5. A search facility like Freeway Simple Site Search but to include webyep content

Anyway thats a few thoughts that others have talked about and mentioned so if anyone else wants to chip in, please feel free…

I look forward to hearing how webyep may be improved to work better with freeway and ultimately your clients.

all the best Max


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I would agree with the look and usability suggestion. At roughly the
same cost MojoMotor has a much nicer UI and is a more capable system.
Apples and oranges, I know, but I find the WY “look” to be less than
professional.

The dependency on plug-in editors for video uploads is a real
stumbling block and is something that desperately needs a more robust
solution.

I would also like to see a move away from flat-file storage then the
power of a MySQL db could be leveraged for things like a proper search
feature and much more. Just because a CMS requires a MySQL db doesn’t
mean it has to be overly complicated to install and I’m sure obdev
could come up with a slick installer. The MojoMotor and MODx installer
are good examples.

I know the point of WY is to keep things lean and simple but apps like
MM have raised the bar in terms of flexibility and user-experience
while still maintaining ease-of-use for in-page CMSs.

Todd


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If you buy the White label version can’t you adjust the WebYep CSS and create your own icons to much improve the WebYep interface? It looks a doodle of a job to do.

David

On 25 Mar 2011, at 19:49, “max” email@hidden wrote:

  1. Complete upgrade of the visual look and usability of the CMS system
  2. icon upgrades.

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Search Friendly URLs (I can understand why this could cause issues)

David

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The basic question is what do people really want to be added or changed within the webyep


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Max

What do you mean by a menu system in the long text editor?

David

On 25 Mar 2011, at 19:49, “max” email@hidden wrote:

  1. A proper menu system in the longtext editor. although I have started on that one.

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A method of creating blog like pagination on pages for simple blogs.

David

On 25 Mar 2011, at 19:49, “max” email@hidden wrote:

I know this really should go on the off topic area but I could do with the biggest amount of people seeing it and adding there input so hence why I have put it in this area.

The basic question is what do people really want to be added or changed within the webyep cms to improve it and also improve the freeway integration.

To get the ball rolling these are a few thoughts and ideas:

  1. Complete upgrade of the visual look and usability of the CMS system
  2. icon upgrades.
  3. A proper WebYep richtext editor with its own upload image facility rather than using a third party system like TinyMCE and ckEditor.
  4. A proper menu system in the longtext editor. although I have started on that one.
  5. A search facility like Freeway Simple Site Search but to include webyep content

Anyway thats a few thoughts that others have talked about and mentioned so if anyone else wants to chip in, please feel free…

I look forward to hearing how webyep may be improved to work better with freeway and ultimately your clients.

all the best Max


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Hi todd I agree on the user interface front it does look dated
and as far as video upload again yep I see a lot of requests for that
and HI David
yes what I have done is created a menu for the long-text box that appears once you have selected some text so you are able to apply bold or links or in fact any other style to that selection. If you are interested let me know and I will sent you the plugin.

speak soon max


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Hi Max

Yes I would like a look

David

On 25 Mar 2011, at 21:34, “max” email@hidden wrote:

If you are interested let me know and I will sent you the plugin.


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One major thing WebYep has got going for it is image re-sizing, other CMS’s expect you to have an understanding of image size resolution etc, prior to uploading WebYep does this for you.

Many clients we build web sites for have no understanding of images and just want this to happen.

David Owen

On 25 Mar 2011, at 20:24, Todd wrote:

I know the point of WY is to keep things lean and simple but apps like MM have raised the bar in terms of flexibility and user-experience while still maintaining ease-of-use for in-page CMSs.


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I agree with an interface upgrade.

Perhaps other ideas would be to avoid pop-up’s for editing windows and instead try and use overlays to make changes. Sort of like palette’s or even how Mojo does it with a slimmed down control panel mounted at the top.


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Hi all, still pretty much a novice with WebYep, but my shout would be
for the video uploads and an inbuilt richtext editor - just one less
link to go wrong. Great little CMS though Max, thanks.
I don’t have a problem with the look of it!
Trev

On 25 Mar 2011, at 19:49, max wrote:

I know this really should go on the off topic area but I could do
with the biggest amount of people seeing it and adding there input
so hence why I have put it in this area.

The basic question is what do people really want to be added or
changed within the webyep cms to improve it and also improve the
freeway integration.

To get the ball rolling these are a few thoughts and ideas:

  1. Complete upgrade of the visual look and usability of the CMS
    system
  2. icon upgrades.
  3. A proper WebYep richtext editor with its own upload image
    facility rather than using a third party system like TinyMCE and
    ckEditor.
  4. A proper menu system in the longtext editor. although I have
    started on that one.
  5. A search facility like Freeway Simple Site Search but to include
    webyep content

Anyway thats a few thoughts that others have talked about and
mentioned so if anyone else wants to chip in, please feel free…

I look forward to hearing how webyep may be improved to work better
with freeway and ultimately your clients.

all the best Max


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There was one more thing, and this may be asking the impossible, but
anyway of incorporating a slideshow with the gallery or picture
uploads rather than just having a single window open up, close it,
then onto the next pic?
Trev
On 28 Mar 2011, at 07:47, Trevor Reaveley wrote:

Hi all, still pretty much a novice with WebYep, but my shout would
be for the video uploads and an inbuilt richtext editor - just one
less link to go wrong. Great little CMS though Max, thanks.
I don’t have a problem with the look of it!
Trev

On 25 Mar 2011, at 19:49, max wrote:

I know this really should go on the off topic area but I could do
with the biggest amount of people seeing it and adding there input
so hence why I have put it in this area.

The basic question is what do people really want to be added or
changed within the webyep cms to improve it and also improve the
freeway integration.

To get the ball rolling these are a few thoughts and ideas:

  1. Complete upgrade of the visual look and usability of the CMS
    system
  2. icon upgrades.
  3. A proper WebYep richtext editor with its own upload image
    facility rather than using a third party system like TinyMCE and
    ckEditor.
  4. A proper menu system in the longtext editor. although I have
    started on that one.
  5. A search facility like Freeway Simple Site Search but to include
    webyep content

Anyway thats a few thoughts that others have talked about and
mentioned so if anyone else wants to chip in, please feel free…

I look forward to hearing how webyep may be improved to work better
with freeway and ultimately your clients.

all the best Max


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Trev,

Are you putting a lightbox script folder in the “opt” folder in the webyep-system to create a slicker photo gallery?

Like this (see lower on the page)…
http://www.printlineadvertising.co.uk/print/digital-business-cards.php

(use the right/left arrow keys to navigate the photo gallery ~ esc close)

BTW the latest WebYep 1.6 can now also use Fancybox ~ and its got a multiple file upload for the photo gallery.

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On 28 Mar 2011, at 08:34, Trevor Reaveley wrote:

but anyway of incorporating a slideshow with the gallery or picture uploads rather than just having a single window open up, close it, then onto the next pic?


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Hi David, thanks for this.
No, I didn’t realise you could do that, in fact I’ve never used
Lightbox before. At the moment I’m just using the built in Freeway
slideshow, but I’d like to be able to keep uploading new work without
the hassle of opening slideshow, importing, exporting, then Freeway,
importing, publishing and uploading, so this sounds like a perfect “on
the fly” solution for me.

I’ll also look into Fancybox, which I’ve never heard of!
Trev

On 28 Mar 2011, at 11:09, David Owen wrote:

Trev,

Are you putting a lightbox script folder in the “opt” folder in the
webyep-system to create a slicker photo gallery?

Like this (see lower on the page)…
Digital Business Cards

(use the right/left arrow keys to navigate the photo gallery ~ esc
close)

BTW the latest WebYep 1.6 can now also use Fancybox ~ and its got a
multiple file upload for the photo gallery.

David Owen { Freeway Friendly Web hosting and Domains }

http://www.ineedwebhosting.co.uk | http://www.PrintlineAdvertising.co.uk

On 28 Mar 2011, at 08:34, Trevor Reaveley wrote:

but anyway of incorporating a slideshow with the gallery or picture
uploads rather than just having a single window open up, close it,
then onto the next pic?


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That’s why I opted for some content on the Printline site to use a CMS ~ to save a lot of time

Luckily Obdev has thought about this carefully and kindly left plenty of CSS classes in the gallery function to target (style the gallery)

In this example the thumbnails are cropped by the surround div .WebYepGalleryImage overflow:hidden to create a standard size attractive letterbox shape no matter if the picture uploaded by the client is portrait or landscape

http://www.craggwoodtreecare.co.uk/craggwood-tree-surgeons-photo-gallery-leeds.php

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, but I’d like to be able to keep uploading new work without the hassle of opening slideshow


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Ah, gotcha, keeps it all looking nice and tidy, in fact some would say
‘pruned’.
Trev

On 28 Mar 2011, at 11:28, David Owen wrote:

That’s why I opted for some content on the Printline site to use a
CMS ~ to save a lot of time

Luckily Obdev has thought about this carefully and kindly left
plenty of CSS classes in the gallery function to target (style the
gallery)

In this example the thumbnails are cropped by the surround
div .WebYepGalleryImage overflow:hidden to create a standard size
attractive letterbox shape no matter if the picture uploaded by the
client is portrait or landscape

http://www.craggwoodtreecare.co.uk/craggwood-tree-surgeons-photo-gallery-leeds.php

David Owen { Freeway Friendly Web hosting and Domains }

http://www.ineedwebhosting.co.uk | http://www.PrintlineAdvertising.co.uk

On 28 Mar 2011, at 11:16, Trevor Reaveley wrote:

, but I’d like to be able to keep uploading new work without the
hassle of opening slideshow


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Hi Max
How about more in-depth tutorials so we can all get the most from WebYep - Possibly video tutorials with sound. For example showing how to use the slideshow mentioned above.
Regards
Kevin


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Dan!

David

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How about more in-depth tutorials so we can all get the most from WebYep - Possibly video tutorials with sound


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Yes, David? :slight_smile: My WebYep series has been a monster success. I built an entire site from Photoshop into a Freeway document into a live server set up for an actual client. I use the Actions from Max and run the whole gambit of using box-model design to plan for unknown sizes in content to gallery creation and Google maps.

I dedicated an entire episode to the gallery action and how to set one up and how to customize it to hide captions and so on.

The screencasts didn’t use Max’s latest SEO action pack however, but none the less it covers the essentials of building a site.

On file here Johannes from Objective Development bought all of them and has an account on file on my site.


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Hi all,

I wrapped a few thoughts that I came across into a graphic, cause it’s the better and shorter way to express myself:

I divided it into three parts:

  1. Buttons, Login, Backend
  1. View in a browser:
  1. Some details RichText Editor

This as a basic would be the way I’d like to have WY. I tried to include your thoughts here as well (include the overlay-thought of Dan - it was not better to illustrate :slight_smile:

Excited about your thoughts.

Cheers

Thomas


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