On 3 Jul 2011, 10:38 pm, Ginjg wrote:
Nice. But why Joomla? Were you not able to create this website in FWP?
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Yes, I could have done it exclusively in freeway with many hours more
work to implement all the functionality and tie into a database in a
useful way. I forgot that the power of a CMS isn’t visible from the
frontend - done right, it looks like an ordinary webpage.
Though I can’t give you access all of the features, that one site
incorporates “in house” nearly all the features of regonline,
constantcontact, surveymonkey and a members only forum. It took mere
minutes to install and configure the functions for each of the
components.
I also explored webyep, expression engine and wordpress and decided
that joomla gave me more flexibility overall.
On Jul 3, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Kelly Crossley wrote:
On 3 Jul 2011, 10:38 pm, Ginjg wrote:
Nice. But why Joomla? Were you not able to create this website in FWP?
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I think with Webyep the database is stored on their website. Where is the database stored in Joomla?
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Also, using FWP as an example, comparatively speaking, how hard was Joomla to learn?
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WebYep stores its database in text files on your server. Joomla! uses MySQL, also on your server, to store all the content, users, and permissions and other settings.
Walter
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for me it was about 3 hours for basic, and then “as needed”, I’d say
all together adding up to several days. I don’t claim to be more
than a novice, (even in freeway). I did take advantage of the free
tutorials at http://www.buildajoomlawebsite.com/joomla-tutorial/
On Jul 3, 2011, at 5:48 PM, Kelly Crossley wrote:
Also, using FWP as an example, comparatively speaking, how hard was
Joomla to learn?
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What about the learning curve for Freeway Pro?
How is that?
Lets say I want to get to fairly fluid web design ability?
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I think the key argument of using Joomla, Drupal or Expression Engine is their templates and their easy use of it (after you invested a few months of understanding the front- and backend functions) and of course their huge number of extensions.
But using templates all in one is making projects often look one like the other - although there are a trillions out there.
Freeway itself (and dreamweaver of course too) is forcing you, to build pages from the basics, needs a bit of Sophistication (in all meanings of this word) to have finally an individual design.
WebYep is perfect to inject a few editable areas and from my experience more than enough for the most of my clients (and the truth is, that WebYep can do much more than the most know).
The learning curve in dealing with CMS (WebYep) was massive, cause it brought me to rethink my complete Constructional Attitude within freeway.
The drop and drag way as the basic thought of freeway is regarded the needs within CMS sometimes suboptimum cause you there deal with unknown amount of text. It was really hard to deal with so called inline content but I took advantage of Dan Jasker’s Boxmodel Screencast.
These was before the times of relative page layout but I’m still taking advantage of this layout technique as the most flexible and recommendable one if it comes to external content - regardless o from where this content is coming from (MySQL or simple Textfiles).
Another point is the attitude of your customers that normally starts with:
“Hi - I need a website that gives me all I need. I like to add everything by my own - Images, Texts, Colors - absolutely all”.
I normally tell them:
Have a look at 1&1 easy webpage solutions.
“… Hi we looked at 1&1 but we really don’t come through with it - it needs to study several days but we heard of Joomla”
Then you’ll need to study a few days more.
“… OK - we finally decided, that the changes we like to make is on only one page monthly updating”
Cool - here we are.
But I must admit, that my clients are far away from being global players and massive big companies. But if you have one of them, I’m unsure if the dreamweaver or freeway-solution is really the best.
Finally I once started (for whatever reason I can’t remember - by accident?) and I was so impressed how easy and quick it could be to build webpages. I step by step understood some basics (I never understood before). I came once to a point when someone else wrote in a forum (not here):
FW is nice to build a layout, but if it comes to an order I take advantage of dreamweaver. And that was the point where my ambitions awoke - and I never regret that step.
Cheers
Thomas
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