How quick do you find FW Pro 5?
I’m using OS X 10.5.2, on a 1.67GHz PowerBook, and it’s very slow,
especially when publishing/previewing pages, even when I’ve shut down
all the big Adobe apps.
jeff
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I haven’t noticed a big difference in speed of general operation or
publishing but I was thinking of asking the same question about
other’s experience with saving so you beat me to it. Saving seems to
take much longer. I wondered if it was just the result of more going
on under the bonnet/hood.
I’m running Tiger on an Intel 2 Ghz Mac Mini. Leopard is more
resource hungry so maybe that would have a bearing too…?
Pete
On 15 Feb 2008, at 10:47, Jeff wrote:
How quick do you find FW Pro 5?
I’m using OS X 10.5.2, on a 1.67GHz PowerBook, and it’s very slow,
especially when publishing/previewing pages, even when I’ve shut down
all the big Adobe apps.jeff
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Runnin Leopard on MacBook Pro and I haven’t noticed any speed difference yet.
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On 15 Feb 2008, at 11:27, Pete MacKenzie wrote:
I haven’t noticed a big difference in speed of general operation or
publishing but I was thinking of asking the same question about
other’s experience with saving so you beat me to it. Saving seems to
take much longer. I wondered if it was just the result of more going
on under the bonnet/hood.I’m running Tiger on an Intel 2 Ghz Mac Mini. Leopard is more
resource hungry so maybe that would have a bearing too…?Pete
On 15 Feb 2008, at 10:47, Jeff wrote:
How quick do you find FW Pro 5?
I’m using OS X 10.5.2, on a 1.67GHz PowerBook, and it’s very slow,
especially when publishing/previewing pages, even when I’ve shut down
all the big Adobe apps.
jeff
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I am on a mac pro with 2gb memory. When I opened my small website created with Pro 4 in the beat pro 5 it popped up much quicker. I have found the preview working much faster as well. The publish time doesn’t seem to make a huge difference, but I tend to publish frequently with changes so it is not one massive site publish. I find the whole beta to be a bit snappier and more responsive on my mac.
On Feb 15, 2008, at 6:34 AM, Nathan Garner wrote:
ny speed difference
On 15 Feb 2008, at 11:27, Pete MacKenzie wrote:
I’m running Tiger on an Intel 2 Ghz Mac Mini. Leopard is more
resource hungry so maybe that would have a bearing too…?
Publishing my 20-page site is taking 5 minutes or so!
I should have mentioned the rest of my specs: PowerBook G5, 1.67GHz,
1.5GB memory, 16GB hard drive space free.
Leopard has slowed this machine down quite a bit in other areas.
Reading a few forums it shouldn’t have done and I will try a clean
install of 10.5, spend £20(!) on an upgrade to 2GB of RAM and see how
FW copes then.
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On 15 Feb 2008, at 11:27, Pete MacKenzie wrote:
I’m running Tiger on an Intel 2 Ghz Mac Mini. Leopard is more
resource hungry so maybe that would have a bearing too…?Publishing my 20-page site is taking 5 minutes or so!
I should have mentioned the rest of my specs: PowerBook G5, 1.67GHz,
1.5GB memory, 16GB hard drive space free.
Leopard has slowed this machine down quite a bit in other areas.
I don’t recall there ever being a G5 Powerbook… That would be faster than the Powerbook 12" 1.33 G4 that I have 10.5.2 running on. Although somethings are slower, mostly related to the Finder, I find that Leopard is very peppy for such an old processor.
Reading a few forums it shouldn’t have done and I will try a clean
install of 10.5, spend £20(!) on an upgrade to 2GB of RAM and see how
FW copes then.
Highly, highly recommend you do that. With any flavor of OSX more ram = better performance.
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On 15 Feb 2008, at 16:39, chuckamuck wrote:
I don’t recall there ever being a G5 Powerbook.
Sorry, typo. G4 Powerbook. Did you do a clean install?
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No, but it wouldn’t hurt. I did do a full duplication backup first. If you feel up to it, I would recommend changing out the hard drive also. I was forced to, but since I put in the Hitachi 120gb replacement the laptop seems much happier.
The OSX install was straight forward without issue for me once I did install. There was a general slow down in system performance afterward, but this is primarily do to the slower processor. However, subsequent system updates since then have ironed out the major problems and runs pretty much on par with how it first did. There does seem to be more stress on the hard drive as it gets quite warm at times. Processor also gets quite warm on heavy processing apps like Photoshop which is to be expected, but seems to happen more quickly under 10.5.2.
I have an issue with the FW5 beta not allow dragging of items around hierarchy in the object listing in the left pane. I also get the occasional crash but that can be attributed to beta in general. Seems ok on MacPro running 10.4.
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On 15 Feb 2008, at 19:10, chuckamuck wrote:
I have an issue with the FW5 beta not allow dragging of items
around hierarchy in the object listing in the left pane. I also get
the occasional crash but that can be attributed to beta in general.
I had an occasion where all worked apart from that objects on the
page refused to budge. One could select them, change content etc but
not reposition them. Quitting FW and restarting sorted it. Moving
items in Page pane not affected and I do get the odd crash too. I’ve
sharpened up on regular saving as a result but that’s when I notice
how long it seems to take.
One thing I have noticed - if I import an image into a graphic item,
resize it by Scale and Trim and then change my mind and import a
second image I end up with a tiny lo-res image in the top left corner
of the graphic item. Re-importing produces the same result. If I then
do a fit to frame type command the result is massively pixellated but
fills the frame. However, import again, after this resize and the
result is a properly rendered image. A bug?
I can’t find a way to delete an image without deleting the frame
which is annoying if the frame happens to be part of a complex
construction of frames or a group. It would be nice if one could
select content separate from the container as in InDesign for example.
Cheers
Pete
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On 16 Feb 2008, at 01:09, Pete MacKenzie wrote:
I can’t find a way to delete an image without deleting the frame
Try Edit menu, Delete content (command-B).
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Nice one. Thanks. Funny, I know I looked through the menus but much
was greyed out when I had the frame selected. I’ll look for this choice.
Cheers
Pete
On 16 Feb 2008, at 02:02, Jeff wrote:
On 16 Feb 2008, at 01:09, Pete MacKenzie wrote:
I can’t find a way to delete an image without deleting the frame
Try Edit menu, Delete content (command-B).
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Sometime around 16/2/08 (at 01:09 +0000) Pete MacKenzie said:
One thing I have noticed - if I import an image into a graphic item,
resize it by Scale and Trim and then change my mind and import a
second image I end up with a tiny lo-res image in the top left corner
of the graphic item. Re-importing produces the same result. If I then
do a fit to frame type command the result is massively pixellated but
fills the frame. However, import again, after this resize and the
result is a properly rendered image. A bug?
Actually no - this is all quite logical when you examine all the
details of how things work. It is also the way Freeway 4 and earlier
has worked.
First of all, when Freeway imports an image it will, unless told
otherwise, pay attention to the embedded ‘per inch’ resolution
setting. An image set to 300ppi for print work will import at the
same relative scale on your Freeway page. You can of course scale it
up, and the result will be recalculated from the full original image
data, from the file on your hard disk.
This recalculation isn’t done until you either ask for it explicitly
(click the Resample button in the Modify dialog) or preview/publish
(at which point Freeway checks the original imported image files).
Until then, a scaled-up image will just show the embedded preview
image data, enlarged and pixellated. Double-click and click Resample
for the quickest way to sort this out.
Why isn’t this done on the fly? Well, you may have large original
images placed on the page, which could cause significant lag if every
scale and crop action required reimporting fresh pixel data.
When you scale an image in a graphic box in Freeway, the box
remembers the scale. If you import another image right over the top
of that one, the scale settings are preserved. This is a subtle but
wonderful thing, as you can have a whole set of image files ready
for use, set up a box with the desired scale, then duplicate it and
drop in a new image… presto, it is scaled just the same!
If you don’t want the image scale to be remembered, clear the image
before importing a new one. When the image is removed, so is any
scaling setting. And as Jeff said, the way to do this is to choose
Edit > Clear Content, or type command-B.
(I really should start writing this stuff up in one document.)
It would be nice if one could
select content separate from the container as in InDesign for example.
We have something similar to that without needing the two-tool
approach. Content can be dragged around in a frame, transformed
together with or independently of the frame, and with the Clear
Content command there’s little more that we really need. It is more a
matter of slightly different approaches than major difference in
ability.
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Thanks Keith, nicely explained. The Command-B routine is so obvious
now it’s been pointed out. Course, it had to be there somewhere.
Can’t think how I missed it but I did.
The ready scaled content I understand from ID so although I was
working against Freeway in this instance I can see its usefulness as
you point out. I had also discovered the delights of the drag handle
in the graphic frame.
Anyway, thanks for setting me straight.
cheers
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I noticed the same thing. I usually end up making a new graphic item to start from scratch.
On Feb 15, 2008, at 8:09 PM, Pete MacKenzie wrote:
One thing I have noticed - if I import an image into a graphic item,
resize it by Scale and Trim and then change my mind and import a
second image I end up with a tiny lo-res image in the top left corner
of the graphic item. Re-importing produces the same result. If I then
do a fit to frame type command the result is massively pixellated but
fills the frame. However, import again, after this resize and the
result is a properly rendered image. A bug?
And selling it…
Walter
On Feb 16, 2008, at 7:06 AM, Keith Martin wrote:
(I really should start writing this stuff up in one document.)
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Sometime around 16/2/08 (at 10:55 -0500) Walter Lee Davis said:
And selling it…
When I finished my CS3 Integration book last Sprint my wife said “no
more books”… but I never agreed with that. But how to find the
time, that’s the biggest problem. Oh, other than finding a publisher
first of course.
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Earlier today I said:
When I finished my CS3 Integration book last Sprint
Sprint? I meant Spring of course…
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On 16 Feb. 2008, 5:04 pm, thatkeith wrote:
Earlier today I said:
When I finished my CS3 Integration book last Sprint
Sprint? I meant Spring of course…
k
Sprint is certainly how your wife would like it to proceed. 
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