Can't get any GIF text to show any effects

No matter what, I just can’t ever get GIF text to show effects in FW7 - glow, drop shadow, etc.

Look at www.eyemack.co.uk/bodyarmour for a simple example.

All text should have ‘glow’ as set in FW. Looks fine in FW!


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Thats a strange one - works fine for me. http://www.deltadesign.co/FW7Test/graphic-text-with-glow.html

Unfortunately we cant tell anything from your online example as all graphics are created at publish time so there is no code to pore over.

All I can suggest is trying again on an otherwise empty page.

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On that link I’m not sure what is supposed to glow, but at the moment (11pm US-EST) the main lettering is not. The graphic looks like it may have glow around the letters but it’s not enough resolution to tell.

When you say “Looks fine in FW!” - does that mean in the layout mode - or in the browser preview?

Are you really saying it’s there in browser preview - but not after you upload it? → I just recently posted (with solution) about some hosting services default caching settings which cause changes to sites to not update immediately after new uploads.

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No matter what, I just can’t ever get GIF text to show effects in FW7 - glow, drop shadow, etc.

Look at www.eyemack.co.uk/bodyarmour for a simple example.

All text should have ‘glow’ as set in FW. Looks fine in FW!


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Karen, ignore the logo on the left. That’s a graphic. It’s the gif text in the middle and on the right. They should have a white glow.

Sorry, I meant it looks ok in layout mode, not in browser preview.

It’s not just that example, I can’t get ANY gif text to show effects like glow, shadow, etc. I will try some very simple tests later as David suggested.


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OK, guys. A very simple test.

Here is the link to simply putting in the word Softpress as gif text with glow into a new blank site.

www.eyemack.co.uk/test

and here is a grab of what it looks like in FW7

www.eyemack.co.uk/test/glowsg.jpg

As I said previously, no effects on gif text work for me in FW7. There must be a simple explanation for this!


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Just a little update.

Background, draw options and overlay work, but shadow and glow don’t.

I was wrong to say nothing works, but I guess that’s because I want to use glow and shadow most!


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Thanks for the clarification - I just wanted to make absolutely sure about what you were referring to.

I tested this as a new document in 7.0.1/Mavericks and a variety of browsers - glow doesn’t show up for me as well.

This is one you’ll likely want to report to Softpress support.

Meanwhile - a workaround - since you are choosing GIF (versus HTML text) would be to create your glowing text as a gif, transparent png or jpg graphic in an external image editing program - Photoshop - or if you don’t have Photoshop a free program for OSX with similar capabilities is Gimp.

Keep in mind that graphic text (no matter how it is created) is not web searchable, so use it sparingly. Hope this helps.


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Thanks a lot, Karen. Yes, I am aware of all that, I was just trying to demonstrate the problem.

I only use GIF text for headers and names when a particular font is required.

This is very annoying, as the beauty of gif text, is that if a change is needed (which is often with certain clients!) it is easy to change, but having to regularly redo graphic files in PS is a pain.

I’ll report the problem to SP.


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Had a play on it in FW7 (Mavericks) with this result:

http://backstage.kimmich-digitalmedia.com/playground/grafiktextisnotanoption.html

illustrated:

so it’s interesting that it doesn’t work for you.

Cheers

Thomas


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Thanks Thomas.

The thing is you are doing something different to what we are talking about. You are putting text into a graphic box, and that works OK for me.

What I am talking about is an HTML box with GIF text.


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I’m not doubting the merits of your suggestion which clearly is a better way of doing the effect, just wondering why the effect doesn’t work in FW as it should.

It’ll be interesting to see what SP support say.


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I’ve done the same site using text in graphics box, and it looks fine, but…

www.eyemack.co.uk/bodyarmour


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Aha - yes I see. OK it doesn’t work for me either. I have to admit that I never tried both ways (which are theoretically the same (output), practically not(workspace)).

Report back what SP says.

Cheers

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The same ‘glow’ effect can be achieved using HTML text and shadow. By using ‘0’ offset and adjusting the blur.

But the problem still remains that one is restricted in fonts and size using HTML text in FW.


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What I am talking about is an HTML box with GIF text.

Personally I cant see the logic of putting graphic text in an Html box.

Why not just create an html item and put your graphic container in that?

Besides it doesn’t work in 6 either.

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You’re probably right Dave, but still, it should work properly if the functionality is there.

Did you get a chance to look at my last 2 posts on our other recent thread on CSS menus?


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Did you get a chance to look at my last 2 posts on our other recent thread on CSS menus?

I don’t have an answer for you as I don’t know the inner workings of the Sticker action.

Did you drop Walter a line? Or post a comment on the Sticker page at ActionsForge Sticker - ActionsForge

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OK guys, here is the (very comprehensive) response from Keith at SP.

Seems like the simplest thing to do would be to remove the options for GIF text in a HTML box, as clearly they will never work in the future, and haven’t worked at all in the past for perfectly logical reasons.

'Hi Iain

The Background and Overlay do indeed work, but both of them throw the text off the baseline used by the HTML text, so they can never made to line up without all sorts of testing over and over with various offsets to see if the HTML text can be made to match (but even that may vary from one browser to the next).

I have been working in Support for six years and have never been asked this question before, so although I can see that it is confusing for the effects to show when they won’t have any effect, it still comes down to how you will ever be able to use GIF text with effects in an HTML item because the effect cannot be made to extend beyond the boundaries of the HTML item.

Using GIF text inside a graphic item is very different because a graphic item is a completely different type of item than an HTML item.

If you image using an HTML item with a mix of HTML and GIF text on the same line as an inflow item, if the effect of the GIF text is set with a Shadow of, say, 75%, then the shadow will be outside the boundaries of the HTML item if that item is used as an inflow item inside the text. As you can see in the sample file I’ve sent, the HTML shadow can display outside the boundaries of the inflow item because it uses a CSS shadow – but GIF text with a graphic effect (which is exactly that – it’s a graphic effect generated by Freeway and output as a graphic item) applied cannot possibly show that effect outside of the item’s boundaries. Graphic effects on GIF text don’t use CSS, so even if they did work when GIF text was used inside an HTML item there would be a good chance that they would be clipped at the edge of the item inside which they are being used.

As I said, I can put a request in to see if it can be included one day. I can also log a bug to ask if all graphic effects can be switched off for GIF text inside an HTML item in the Freeway interface so there is less confusion.

Best regards

Keith Rigley
Support Technician, Softpress Systems’


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