Carousel problems with IE6?

I’ve successfully used the carousel action. It is a great piece of work, thanks to Walter!
Interesting problem I encountered when showing my beta-website to my client: In Explorer the page ‘drops’ a bit when using the tabs. It works fine when using the arrows. Could you guys have a look at this beta? No problem with Safari or Firefox though: www.portret-art.nl/hsa

Thanks!

Paul


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I had a look at your code, but I haven’t looked at it in Windows yet (I’m not at the computer that has access to BrowserCam right now).

There are a lot of elements on your page which are set to non-rounded dimensions or positions. One which leaps out to me is top:326.522px;. Browsers are all different about what they do in the case of such a thing, since they can’t display anything except whole pixels.

Perhaps this is the issue for you. Another thing which can cause this is having a form on the page, but that doesn’t seem to be the case for you.

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Hi Walter,
I am not sure what you mean by ‘non-rounded dimensions or positions - top: 326.522px’. It is a fact that people like me ‘only’ design and try to do it as clean as possible; within our limitations. I would love to do a better job with that but it is hard work. :wink:

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I’m not knocking you, I believe that this is a Freeway bug. If you click on each element in your design, you will see the dimensions and position reported in the Inspector. Try nudging them or manually entering the “rounded” dimensions. I’m not at all sure that this will fix things, but it’s sure looking odd to me, and might be confusing the poor feeble Windows browser.

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I got it! Sorry, my lack of maths-english :wink: Had my maths terminology in Dutch when I was younger…
I’ll work on that and see if that causes the problem. I hope so, because that would be an easy solution to a anoying problem.
Thanks!


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Would it have been clearer if I had called them “non-integer” dimensions? I was puzzling for a while how best to describe the problem I saw.

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Actually Walter, I uploaded your coda example to a server and checked with IE6 as well… and there we have the same problem :frowning:
if you have a chance on a pc… check this: www.portret-art.nl/coda

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N.B. Funny enough… I got it on my Mac as well now! In Firefox and Safari with my own website! Oh dear… oh dear… ;-(


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Check to be sure you have the latest version of Carousel loaded in
Freeway. Click on the group of panes and look in the Actions palette.
In the lower right, you should see 0.7.2b

If not, please update here:

http://freewaypro.com/actions/downloads/

I can’t see any reason for this behavior otherwise. Oh, and be sure
to update your copy of Freeway, this one appears to be 4.3.3, which
is a bit behind the times.

Walter

On Jan 28, 2008, at 8:44 AM, paulvw wrote:

Actually Walter, I uploaded your coda example to a server and
checked with IE6 as well… and there we have the same problem :frowning:
if you have a chance on a pc… check this: www.portret-art.nl/coda

Cheers,

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OK, I got Freeway updated, but what I don’t get is the 0.7.2b. When I install your newest Protaculous from your link, my Carousel action field shows 0.5b
I really don’t get it…


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I got it, indeed, the panes… :wink:
Still have problems; but I won’t give up…


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Sorry, I’m updating the FTP site right now. I don’t know how it could
be that old!

Here are the latest versions of all of the actions within the bundle:

Protaculous - 0.3
SmoothScroll - 0.3
Carousel - 0.7.2b
Carousel Button - 0.5b
Carousel Tab - 0.5b

Walter

On Jan 28, 2008, at 10:47 AM, paulvw wrote:

OK, I got Freeway updated, but what I don’t get is the 0.7.2b. When
I install your newest Protaculous from your link, my Carousel
action field shows 0.5b
I really don’t get it…


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I got it all ‘renewed’. On the Mac no problem. On the pc with Firefox no problem. IE6 on the pc: yes, there is the problem…
your coda example website and also the one I made:

Yours: http://www.portret-art.nl/coda
The one I made: http://www.portret-art.nl/hsa

So, I guess it is IE6 related, but that is a major problem since many people are using it…

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Try deleting the bottom carousel on my example page, and re-creating
it with a drag-copy. There’s something fundamentally messed up on
your example which is not there on mine.

I will look into the layout issues in IE6 later tonight.

Walter

On Jan 28, 2008, at 11:41 AM, paulvw wrote:

I got it all ‘renewed’. On the Mac no problem. On the pc with
Firefox no problem. IE6 on the pc: yes, there is the problem…
your coda example website and also the one I made:

Yours: http://www.portret-art.nl/coda
The one I made: http://www.portret-art.nl/hsa

So, I guess it is IE6 related, but that is a major problem since
many people are using it…

Cheers,

Paul


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Hi Walter, yep I noticed thatit was all messed up. After deleting the 2nd carousel and putting it on a new page I found the IE6 problem!!! IE6 doesn’t like the window to be smaller that our designs… So whenever you make the IE-window bigger (than thedesign) the problem won’t occur… Firefox Windows has no problems with it. IE6 does… I noticed that my beta design had some DIVs ‘sticking out’ at the bottom! After deleting/adjusting that the problems was gone, but when making the window smaller it occured again. So, I assume it is a IE6 ‘bug’ we can’t do anything about?
At least it is interesting that we know what it is! I hope it will help you in your search for perfectionism, hahahaha!
Thanks again!

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I think that there might be an element in the parent layer sandwich
that doesn’t have position:relative set. This should be easy to fix
if that’s the issue. I’ll fiddle with it later on tonight.

Walter

On Jan 28, 2008, at 12:14 PM, paulvw wrote:

At least it is interesting that we know what it is! I hope it will
help you in your search for perfectionism, hahahaha!


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The issue with the tabs and IE6 is fixed. I had to rename a variable,
because IE’s Jscript engine can’t chew gum and walk at the same time.
It gets confused if you name a variable inside an anonymous function
(which should be a virgin namespace) the same as a public function,
and then call that function, passing it the variable. Every other
browser on earth knows that moveTo (the string) is not the same thing
as moveTo (the function).

Sigh…

Walter

On Jan 28, 2008, at 12:14 PM, paulvw wrote:

Hi Walter, yep I noticed thatit was all messed up. After deleting
the 2nd carousel and putting it on a new page I found the IE6
problem!!! IE6 doesn’t like the window to be smaller that our
designs… So whenever you make the IE-window bigger (than
thedesign) the problem won’t occur… Firefox Windows has no
problems with it. IE6 does… I noticed that my beta design had
some DIVs ‘sticking out’ at the bottom! After deleting/adjusting
that the problems was gone, but when making the window smaller it
occured again. So, I assume it is a IE6 ‘bug’ we can’t do anything
about?
At least it is interesting that we know what it is! I hope it will
help you in your search for perfectionism, hahahaha!
Thanks again!

Paul


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Forgot to add – Carousel Tabs is now version 0.5.1b

Walter

On Jan 28, 2008, at 12:14 PM, paulvw wrote:

Hi Walter, yep I noticed thatit was all messed up. After deleting
the 2nd carousel and putting it on a new page I found the IE6
problem!!! IE6 doesn’t like the window to be smaller that our
designs… So whenever you make the IE-window bigger (than
thedesign) the problem won’t occur… Firefox Windows has no
problems with it. IE6 does… I noticed that my beta design had
some DIVs ‘sticking out’ at the bottom! After deleting/adjusting
that the problems was gone, but when making the window smaller it
occured again. So, I assume it is a IE6 ‘bug’ we can’t do anything
about?
At least it is interesting that we know what it is! I hope it will
help you in your search for perfectionism, hahahaha!
Thanks again!

Paul


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Wow… I am speechless… you did it… Thanks! The fact that the action is working in any browser without ‘instructions’ makes is a very ‘mature’ one.
But I can imagine your frustration with browsers like IE.

I am somewhat suprised that other users of the action haven’t come across this particular issue yet when checking their websites on a pc.

Solving this particular issue also opens up more options to work with the action: what creative ideas we can thing of now like vertical applications etc. We’ll see. I would like to explore new effects.

Thanks again Walter!

Paul


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