Form Page moving down in Safari 3?

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Does anyone know why this page moves down in Safari 3?

This page is using WebYep, and a form, The form items are in a div with height deleted. The whole page is Freeway Centred.

http://www.greenygrey.co.uk/test.php

Its seems OK in Firefox / I.E. etc

David

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Hi David
Just had a quick look at the code, just in case it was something webyep was causing the problem and I am struggling to see any webyep items on this page, Where did you say you put the webyep item?

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max

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Max,

I don’t think its the WebYep item causing the problems. (WebYep items are the text above and below the form, and the right hand column)

But somehow when the form items are added, the whole page drops about 18px in Safari 3. Take out the form items, and its OK. :-/

On 14 Jan 2008, at 11:04, max wrote:

Hi David
Just had a quick look at the code, just in case it was something webyep was causing the problem and I am struggling to see any webyep items on this page, Where did you say you put the webyep item?

Cheers
max

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I believe FW adds a margin or padding (I don’t recall) to form tags which can cause problems like this. I always add the below style as a matter of course to every FW site. Perhaps it’ll help.

Create a new Tag style:

Tag: form
*Be sure there’s nothing in the Name field (important).

now click the Extended button and add these attributes:

Name: margin
Value: 0

and

Name: padding
Value: 0

Todd

On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:48 AM, ineedwebhosting wrote:

Does anyone know why this page moves down in Safari 3?

This page is using WebYep, and a form, The form items are in a div with height deleted. The whole page is Freeway Centred.

http://www.greenygrey.co.uk/test.php

Its seems OK in Firefox / I.E. etc

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When you add a form to the page using Freeway, I believe it adds this
“zero” style. But if you are using a CMS to add the form to a
template page which was designed without a form, then you run into
this issue, because you are going around Freeway’s “back”.

Just to be clear, this is not Freeway’s fault, but rather that of the
individual browsers. Each browser has a sort of invisible stylesheet
which sets default display properties for EVERYTHING. Each element
that a browser can draw has some sort of “normal” display properties
in this scheme. And anything that you style in your page overrides
this normal set of properties. But anything you leave out of your
stylesheet will take on the defaults.

The issue that comes up here and in lots of other places, is that
this “normal” is different on each browser. So when you look at form
elements or the form itself in one browser, you may see one set of
dimensions, and in another browser it will be entirely different.

Walter

On Jan 14, 2008, at 9:31 AM, Todd wrote:

I believe FW adds a margin or padding (I don’t recall) to form tags
which can cause problems like this. I always add the below style as
a matter of course to every FW site. Perhaps it’ll help.

Create a new Tag style:

      Tag: form
      *Be sure there's nothing in the Name field (important).

now click the Extended button and add these attributes:

      Name: margin
      Value: 0

and

      Name: padding
      Value: 0

Todd

On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:48 AM, ineedwebhosting wrote:

Does anyone know why this page moves down in Safari 3?

This page is using WebYep, and a form, The form items are in a div
with height deleted. The whole page is Freeway Centred.

http://www.greenygrey.co.uk/test.php

Its seems OK in Firefox / I.E. etc

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Hi Walter et al

When you add a form to the page using Freeway, I believe it adds this “zero” style.

So this is not an issue that we should normally concern ourselevs about when using Freeway applied forms?

And Todd is just using a “belt & braces” approach.

Only wondering if it was something that should be included as a page action on a form page - or even rolled into form actions?

David

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I only mentioned it because for me (your mileage may vary) it was often an issue so I just got in the habit of creating the style by default…just in case.

Todd

On Jan 14, 2008, at 12:55 PM, DeltaDave wrote:

So this is not an issue that we should normally concern ourselevs about when using Freeway applied forms?

And Todd is just using a “belt & braces” approach.

Only wondering if it was something that should be included as a page action on a form page - or even rolled into form actions?

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Thanks Todd, adding the form tag style worked.

On 14 Jan 2008, at 14:31, Todd wrote:

I believe FW adds a margin or padding (I don’t recall) to form tags which can cause problems like this. I always add the below style as a matter of course to every FW site. Perhaps it’ll help.

David Owen
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http://www.printlineadvertising.co.uk/freeway
http://www.ineedwebhosting.co.uk