shouldn’t it be possible to set a frameset as master? the option is greyed out for me - (I’m in Express - does that make a difference? and I did not have sources assigned for all frames yet - would that affect anything?) - thanks - ROlf in MA
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Why do you want to use a Frameset?
It is not search engine friendly, makes bookmarking pages difficult (if not impossible) and is generally frowned upon as being very old hat.
David
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it was the only way I could think of to do this e-book - correct me if I’m wrong (I probably am), but I need the main ‘frame’ to scroll - it’s the main text of each chapter - but I also need the side and top links (parts, sections, chapter, appendix, footnote links) to ‘stay with’ the scrolling text - how do I do that without frames??
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Are you a Pro or Express user?
In Pro a layered HTML item can have its content set to scroll.
http://www.deltadesign.co/examples/scroll_content.html
D
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rats - I’m Express - also, main text needs to be GIF, not HTML
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How much text are you talking about - 100 words, 500, more?
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each page between 200 and 1000 words
with pics
300+ pages
(!)
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I think that you are pushing Express as being the tool of choice here.
Would this one site not pay for the investment?
But a major flaw in the plan is the use of Gif text.
If your client doesn’t want it stolen then he shouldn’t be putting it on the internet!
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I guess you’re right - and I’d go for Pro if it could definitely do what I need it to do - but he’s firm on the graphic text — is there really no way to scroll a graphic item and keep side links alongside? look at this page, for example - why not keep the header, footer, and side links stationary, and scroll the conversation? (on the other hand, this layout would work OK for the book, and it’s pretty simple to shoot to the top or bottom…) - but while I’m at it, is there any way to write a thinner, more-rectangular scroll-bar? that Aqua thing is OK on the edge of the screen, but it looks pretty coarse in the middle of a frame - regards, thanks for the replies, - Rolf in MA, US
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I don’t know, I think I can make this work in frames - don’t care about bookmarking or text searching, we just want people to be able to read the thing
(unrelated text, and the links aren’t active and the colors suck, but this is what I’m trying to do)(I think it’s good enough):
http://frames.vagus.4u2bu.org/
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There is another option in Pro
It uses the position:fixed in window attribute
You could have all your section headers, navigation etc. fixed while the central area with the readable graphic text can scroll - and no scroll bars or Frames.
You could also have all your sections, headers,navigation etc in HTML text and be nice and indexable by Google - and bookmarkable too.
http://www.deltadesign.co/examples/fixed.html
My example is just your graphic text stolen though - I wasn’t going to retype all that!
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I’ve been following this discussion out of interest in something possibly similar in what I want to do.
This solution, given the discussion that came before, is simply brilliant - or elegant in its simplicity as the chess players amongst us would say.
Thanks, David.
Martin
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On Mar 25, 2011, at 4:58 PM, DeltaDave wrote:
There is another option in Pro
It uses the position:fixed in window attribute
You could have all your section headers, navigation etc. fixed while the central area with the readable graphic text can scroll - and no scroll bars or Frames.
You could also have all your sections, headers,navigation etc in HTML text and be nice and indexable by Google - and bookmarkable too.
http://www.deltadesign.co/examples/fixed.html
My example is just your graphic text stolen though - I wasn’t going to retype all that!
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excellent! will that also keep the footers fixed? or will they be at the bottom of the scroll? I notice they are missing in your example - thanks again! - R
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I notice they are missing in your example
Did you want me to duplicate your entire site - or just show you what can be done?
But seriously - if you made the footer fixed as well then your ‘text’ would scroll behind it and would probably look odd. And probably cut off some text.
Revisit the example.
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this is how Google Books does it - is this the same thing as Pro? and I DL’d the Pro Trial, but can’t find ‘position:fixed in window’ attribute - where is that? - thanks, - Rolf in MA
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With the layered item selected on the FW page - look in the inspector
And yes - Google appears to use a series of images. But a bit more sophisticated code-wise.
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cool, thx 
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