Just wondering?
When I use Freeway talk and I want to attach a file for anyone to view… do people have to download from another server or is it as easy as attaching a file here somewhere, I can’t see attach file.
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You need to put your file on a server (maybe your own hosting) and put
a link in your message to said file.
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On 15 Apr 2009, at 12:00, Pete wrote:
When I use Freeway talk and I want to attach a file for anyone to
view… do people have to download from another server or is it as
easy as attaching a file here somewhere, I can’t see attach file.
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Hi Pete
You will have to put it somewhere and offer a link to it as the list is web
and email based and doesn’t support this.
Maybe there could be a files section built in where things could be uploaded
all the best
Brian
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Just wondering?
When I use Freeway talk and I want to attach a file for anyone to view… do
people have to download from another server or is it as easy as attaching a
file here somewhere, I can’t see attach file.
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Thanks Dave,
for your quick reply, I’ve done that before but I was hoping that maybe that service could be possible here. I
gather it takes up a lot of server space… I would pay for that option, instead of having extra files in my Freeway doc.
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On 15 Apr 2009, 11:00 am, Pete wrote:
Just wondering?
When I use Freeway talk and I want to attach a file for anyone to view… do people have to download from another server or is it as easy as attaching a file here somewhere, I can’t see attach file.
I agree that this would be very helpful for anyone trying to help or asking the question. How many times have you clicked on links to images in forums from past posts only to find they are dead?
One of the problems here is the posts are sent out by email to many users, not sure if that would be acceptable to them but then an option for them to not receive image attachments would overcome that…
anyway, I am sure Walter will get back to you with his thoughts on this.
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On 15 Apr 2009, at 13:16, Mike B wrote:
not sure if that would be acceptable to them
Dang straight! ;o)
but then an option for them to not receive image attachments would
overcome that…
Possibly. We’ll have to see what Walter says.
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Totally agree Mike.
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Sometime around 15/4/09 (at 08:16 -0400) Mike B said:
not sure if that would be acceptable to them but then an option for
them to not receive image attachments would overcome that…
Please, no second-class citizenship! (And no bombarding with
attachments either. 
A Freewaytalk site-based storage area would help with the issue of
dead links, but to be honest I’ve not actually found that to be a
problem.
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And wouldn’t there be some sort of security problem letting all and
sundry be able to upload what they wanted?
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We’d need to filter the uploads, and admin the upload area, and
probably delete things after a time, further making this a useless
exercise. There are all sorts of ugly things that can be done to a Web
server if you allow uploads like this, and since we traffic heavily in
people’s e-mail addresses, I think this would be a cost outweighs the
benefit sort of thing. I may think up some way to stash these things
on S3, the way that I currently do for FreewayCast, but that’s still
not something I would want to just put up there and see how it goes…
Walter
On Apr 15, 2009, at 10:12 AM, Trevor Reaveley wrote:
And wouldn’t there be some sort of security problem letting all and
sundry be able to upload what they wanted?
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On 15 Apr 2009, at 15:43, Walter Lee Davis wrote:
We’d need to filter the uploads, and admin the upload area, and
probably delete things after a time, further making this a useless
exercise.
I use ImageWell for this sort of thing, posting screenshots and mini
tutorials on lists. You can get it here: <http://xtralean.com/IWOverview.html
It takes great screenshots, resizes them, sharpens them, puts borders
round them and drop shadows, allows you to annotate with text boxes
and arrows, and much more. And better still, you can set it to send
the result to a folder on your server with one click, AND it puts the
URL inside [IMG] tags and puts it on the clipboard so you can paste it
straight into a forum message.
Does the Freeway forum do [IMG] tags?
If it does, I’d rather keep it as is.
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If you mean then no, it doesn’t. The
forum uses Markdown syntax, which looks like this
If the forum interpreter gobbled that up, it goes like this:
exclamation point, left square bracket, alt text, right square
bracket, left parenthesis, full http path to image, right parenthesis.
And best to have that all on one line by itself (for layout reasons)
with two returns above and below.
Maybe your ImageWell can be configured to use the alternate syntax in
some hidden preference – you might want to ask.
Walter
On Apr 15, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Paul Bradforth wrote:
Does the Freeway forum do [IMG] tags?
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On 15 Apr 2009, at 16:02, Walter Lee Davis wrote:
If you mean
then no, it doesn’t. The
forum uses Markdown syntax, which looks like this
If the forum interpreter gobbled that up, it goes like this:
exclamation point, left square bracket, alt text, right square
bracket, left parenthesis, full http path to image, right
parenthesis. And best to have that all on one line by itself (for
layout reasons) with two returns above and below.Maybe your ImageWell can be configured to use the alternate syntax
in some hidden preference – you might want to ask.
Does this work? (I’m using email, so can’t see the result)
I made an abbreviation in TypeIt4Me so if I type ‘fwpic’ I get your
string above. I can then paste ImageWell’s URL instead of ‘path to
image’. I still have to delete the [IMG] tags, but if it works, it
works.
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Does this work? (I’m using email, so can’t see the result)
What I see here in my email is the raw code: the exclamation mark,
square bracketed text, then the URL in parentheses. For me, a plain
URL to the image is better. Does that trick actually show the image
within the web-based post?
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Yup. If it’s a valid URL, then it just works. Note that if you are
sending in through e-mail, it is possible to break this syntax on long
URLs, and then it just fails, as my daughters are fond of saying.
bit.ly or another shortening service can help there.
Walter
On Apr 15, 2009, at 11:33 AM, Keith Martin wrote:
Does this work? (I’m using email, so can’t see the result)
What I see here in my email is the raw code: the exclamation mark,
square bracketed text, then the URL in parentheses. For me, a plain
URL to the image is better. Does that trick actually show the image
within the web-based post?k
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On 15 Apr 2009, at 16:33, Keith Martin wrote:
What I see here in my email is the raw code: the exclamation mark,
square bracketed text, then the URL in parentheses. For me, a plain
URL to the image is better. Does that trick actually show the image
within the web-based post?
It worked on the forum; I went and checked. Seemed to work perfectly.
I’ll remember it for the future. It’s possible to set ImageWell to
surround it in various tags, and one of them is ‘none’, so if I know
I’m sending to the Freeway forum, I could choose that in ImageWell
when I upload it. Bit of a drag though, as I’ll leave it set that way
because I’ll forget all about it and the next time I post to another
forum, I’ll curse 
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There are a couple of tools out there that you can use to automate the screen grabbing & uploading process.
One is Little Snapper from RealMac Software (http://www.realmacsoftware.com/littlesnapper/share/index.php). You can have the application upload the snap to your server or Flickr or their own QuickSnapper site. Onceiploaded you can then copy the link into your email.
The other solution is a preference pane called GrabUp (http://www.grabup.com/) that is even easier. Once you doa screen shot it grabs it and throws it online on it’s own site. It then copies the URL to the clipboard ready to be pasted in your email.
I did experience some issues with the user interface (http://www.grabup.com/uploads/f90ac8f78ce51f82ea03c614643e8047.png) but generally it works well. You can also upgrade the free version for $20 and have it FTP the images into your own server.
Regards,
Tim.
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I think attaching an image by simply pressing a button and browsing to the file is the most simple way for an inexperianced user to attach an image of the problem they have… I personally don’t have an issue with that, unfortunately I know it is never that simple server space, application side or other users side.
Some people who use Freeway actually select Freeway because they are looking for something that is simple to use, in many cases because they don’t actually have much know how on dealing with internet things, again an upload attachment button being simple.
I can remember some threads in the past which actually took several posts to get to understand what the actual problem was, while a simple attached screen shot would have shown the problem… right away in most cases, not only helping the user that needed help but also those trying to help. It would also help where people ask about a problem, then after several posts it is finally understood what the person ‘actually’ means rather than what they are actually asking!
As I mentioned before, having a user inserted link to an image ‘off site’ can be a pain, I know I have picked up on threads on some forums through searches or otherwise ‘where the images are not on the server’ then just getting to what was interesting by finding a link to an image and… 404 error. OK this is normally because the post is out of date but just because they are out of date doesn’t mean they are of no use to others and it still doesn’t make it any less of a pain when you click the link to find there is nothing there. I also know that this could and would happen for any URL’s but that doesn’t mean that we should just throw in the towel on images.
Obviously there are many things to be considered on this but if it makes things easier for the less experianced and it is possible to do without too much complication then why not? even if it means ‘some of us’ bending over a bit, but if something is done to allow this then I think it needs to be really easy for the user to do.
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