I am very new in this.
And Danish - 57 woman!!
But I have someone to help me, who knows a bit more.
We are trying to make my homepage www.elsebaden-jensen.dk. How can I define my headlines with h1 and h2 in the HTML codes - for SEO. I am using Freeway Pro 5 - Can anyone help me - please explain as to a 5 years old!
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Sometime around 22/3/09 (at 03:34 -0400) else baden-jensen said:
I am very new in this.
And Danish - 57 woman!!
But I have someone to help me, who knows a bit more.
We are trying to make my homepage www.elsebaden-jensen.dk. How can I
define my headlines with h1 and h2 in the HTML codes - for SEO.
H styles are paragraph-level ones, so they apply to entire paragraphs
at once - you can’t apply them only to individual words within a
paragraph.
In your Styles palette you should see three ready-made H styles; h1,
h2 and h3. To apply those, just click into the relevant text and then
click the style name in the list.
To make those styles look nice rather than the old and tired “Times
bold and a bit big” appearance, right-click or control-click one of
the styles and choose to edit it. Add font, size, and whatever other
settings you want.
Leave the ‘bold’ style in place as browsers assume h styles are meant
to be bold and render them that way. Removing the bold style will
make it look ‘unbold’ in Freeway, but browsers will still render it
as bold. (You can override this browser behaviour but it takes a
little more effort. That’s not for this lesson.)
How does this work for you?
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That you for your answer. I am relieved that it seems possible.
But - sorry - I can not find the styling pallette - sigh.
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sorry - I can not find the styling pallette - sigh.
There are two ways to open this palette window. Either:
or:
You should see a short list of ready-made styles:
em
h1
h2
h3
p
strong
The “em” style adds ‘emphasis’, which in standard visual terms means
italic. (It also has semantic meaning which helps accessibility.)
The h1, h2 and h3 tags simply wrap paragraphs of text in
HTML-standard ‘h’ (header) tags. If you edit those and give them
custom style settings then you’ll override the browser-default
rendering. Which is generally a Good Thing, as Times New Roman Bold
in web pages is typographically fugly stuff.
The p style cannot be applied to text, but it does provide control
over all text that is wrapped in the ‘p’ tag in the output code -
which is almost everything. So if you edit this style you set up the
default style that your site’s text will have. This can save a lot of
fiddling with custom styles.
The “strong” style is another semantic style. It makes the text
‘stronger’ in conceptual terms, which means bold in visual terms.
By the way, it is a good idea to try making some basic styles here
(click the cog icon and choose ‘New Style’) and applying them by
selecting your text and clicking the appropriate style name. This
will end up keeping things that bit more under control, for one thing.
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Tank you SO much - we will work on it next weekend - it seems much easier now - thanks again.
May be i will return with new questions.
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Great explanation, Keith. My html self-education has recently brought me to this issue, and you’ve answered my questions perfectly. Thanks!
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The p style of course, cannot be applied to a box, so what is the work around?
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Sorry - did not understand the p style with that comment ! Got it under control now!
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Sometime around 24/3/09 (at 20:22 -0400) John-Paul Kernot said:
The p style of course, cannot be applied to a box, so what is the work around?
I see you’ve already nailed this, but for those who might read this later on…
The “p” style shown in the Styles palette is what’s known as a ‘tag’
style. It isn’t meant to be applied by you to something… instead,
it will automatically be applied to any text that is wrapped in
paragraph tags, in the code that Freeway generates.
This means almost all text - the exceptions being text in lists, and
text wrapped in header (h1 etc.) tags.
This provides an effective way to set up base-level default type
formats for your site. Edit the p style, give it whatever settings
you like (font, size, colour, and so on), and hey presto! All the
otherwise unformatted text (except for lists and header text) will
magically take on those attributes. You don’t have to go around
applying styles, it just works.
Better still, if you want to have styles for different chunks of text
then just add the style parameters that are different from your p
style. If you want to keep the same typeface and size but change the
colour, simply make a new style with the different colour. It will
override the ‘default’ p style for that attribute but leave
everything else (font, size etc.) intact.
There’s one further thing you can do. If you would like to have a tag
style (one that isn’t applied by you) that controls ALL the HTML text
in your document, including header and list text, do this with a
style called “body”. In the Edit Style dialog type body into the Tag
field and delete whaever’s in the Name field. Apply your desired
settings to that style, click OK, and you’re done. The same effect as
with a p style, but the body style encompasses everything within the
opening and closing tags - which is everything in the body
of the page.
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This information is wonderful and right when I need it.
I seem to have trouble “removing styling” to start from scratch. I use the p and body as indicated, I cannot get text to apply or “un-apply”. In other words, I have to start with fresh, new text in a box and cannot mix and match within one html box.
What am I doing wrong?
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When you modify p or body, you are setting defaults for the entire
page. You cannot apply those styles to individual elements of text,
you can only modify the settings of those tags for the current page.
If you want to make local (not global, page level) changes to
individual elements of text, simply make a new style and apply it
either to the parent element (the box the text is in) or a selected
block of text.
CSS is wonderfully flexible, but also quite hard to wrap your head
around. A lot of the mystery comes directly from the flexibility. You
can apply a style to the body, and all other styles will “inherit” the
choices made in that style. So that’s like saying it’s sunny outside
today. Locally, you could put up a pink awning over your porch, and
your porch would be shady and pink. (The local change would trump
aspects of the global change.) But it would still have the sun shining
on it, as opposed to it being dark out.
Walter
On Mar 25, 2009, at 11:45 PM, Beatrice wrote:
This information is wonderful and right when I need it.
I seem to have trouble “removing styling” to start from scratch. I
use the p and body as indicated, I cannot get text to apply or “un-
apply”. In other words, I have to start with fresh, new text in a
box and cannot mix and match within one html box.What am I doing wrong?
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Dear Beatrice
I always use the T (in the dark circle) in the Inspector palette.
Because the styles pallette for me does not reliably work as a means of
removing or changing styles. If I do use the styles pallette I have the
Inspector open and check that all is correct.
I love and use Freeway - but if I had to log all the weirdness that I often
have to work around I wouldn’t get my work done.
Some of this is no doubt due to Freeway letting me do things the wrong way -
and some due to not really knowing the correct relationships and approaches
to applying styles.
But the Inspector shows what is applied and though crude - one can work from
there as I think you desire.
You may well also find there that you inadvertently applied a style to a
container - such as an HTML box - and you will have the trouble you speak of
if that is so. Once you know how to see that it is so it is easier to stay
clear as you go.
all the best
Brian
Beatrice said recently:
This information is wonderful and right when I need it.
I seem to have trouble “removing styling” to start from scratch. I use the p
and body as indicated, I cannot get text to apply or “un-apply”. In other
words, I have to start with fresh, new text in a box and cannot mix and match
within one html box.What am I doing wrong?
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Echoing what Brian says, if you have trouble with styles it usually
pays to “un-style” both text and container. Even an unseen space
character can play tricks on you and, though it’s a pain, completely
clearing both usually works for me.
Colin.
On 26 Mar 2009, at 11:57, Brian Steere wrote:
You may well also find there that you inadvertently applied a style
to a
container - such as an HTML box - and you will have the trouble you
speak of
if that is so.
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You have a real gift Walter - in being able to communicate well - as well as
being very knowledgeable.
Can you let me know of your books, online courses and guides?
I’ll put you in touch with the Softpress CEO.
here goes…
Hey Richard! - give this guy everything he needs to make Freeway sweet for
its users
Seriously - with the new ways of working Freeway needs to provide extra
resource if it is to stay within its original ethos of enabling simpler
design orientated approaches to web development.
And this is reflected also in your recent note of taking longer to document
than to effect. This is often why so much can be done but so few know how to
do it or indeed why they might want to do it.
Of course to the guys that develop it is obvious.
Walter has a genuine willingness to listen and patience.
Am I going round in circles here!
all the best
Brian
Walter Lee Davis said recently:
When you modify p or body, you are setting defaults for the entire
page. You cannot apply those styles to individual elements of text,
you can only modify the settings of those tags for the current page.If you want to make local (not global, page level) changes to
individual elements of text, simply make a new style and apply it
either to the parent element (the box the text is in) or a selected
block of text.CSS is wonderfully flexible, but also quite hard to wrap your head
around. A lot of the mystery comes directly from the flexibility. You
can apply a style to the body, and all other styles will “inherit” the
choices made in that style. So that’s like saying it’s sunny outside
today. Locally, you could put up a pink awning over your porch, and
your porch would be shady and pink. (The local change would trump
aspects of the global change.) But it would still have the sun shining
on it, as opposed to it being dark out.Walter
On Mar 25, 2009, at 11:45 PM, Beatrice wrote:
This information is wonderful and right when I need it.
I seem to have trouble “removing styling” to start from scratch. I
use the p and body as indicated, I cannot get text to apply or “un-
apply”. In other words, I have to start with fresh, new text in a
box and cannot mix and match within one html box.What am I doing wrong?
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On Mar 26, 2009, at 10:05 AM, Brian Steere wrote:
Hey Richard! - give this guy everything he needs to make Freeway
sweet for
its users
He already did that once or twice.
I’ve been on this list since 1997, which is right around the time that
Freeway launched to the public, and right around the time that
discovering that product saved my job and started a new career for me.
Something I’ve not forgotten, am eternally thankful for, and give back
for on a daily basis.
As long-time members of this list already know, I served as
Softpress’s expatriate Webmaster from 2003 to 2006. I built their
store system, the FreewayTalk mailing list Web archive, the
ActionsForge, the FreewayCast screencast-sharing site, wrote and
produced a dozen or more print ads, and demonstrated Freeway at the
Softpress booth at Macworld SFO several years running (designed the
booth, too). Whew!
I haven’t written a book – don’t have the discipline to do so,
frankly – but the archives of this list are searchable, and you could
compile such a book by clicking on my name at the top of anything I’ve
written here. Well, clicking, and then being a damned good editor.
Walter
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I haven’t written a book – don’t have the discipline to do so, frankly
If only we were next-door neighbors, eh?
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Sigh…
On Mar 26, 2009, at 12:55 PM, Keith Martin wrote:
If only we were next-door neighbors, eh?
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