How print image over several pages ?

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Usually I use A3+ format for my Ahnentafel, but this time I neede more space and decided to create it, so that it goes over 3 A3+ pages - one whole page in the middle and one half on each side.

In my mind it would be like when you print a document - it starts with the first page and then the second etc.

But Intaglio does not seem to do that :frowning: It only wants to print one page.

Now you may say that I just have to move the image to make it take the next part, but it is not that easy, because ut has to fit 100% and that is kind of difficult to achive.

Any advice ??? Pleeeeaaase…

I have spent hours and hours designing the image !

Thanks :slight_smile:


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Hi Litta.

Have you tried “Tiler”?

http://www.mindcad.com/tiler.html

It’s free!

On 12 Oct 2011, at 15:23, Litta wrote:

Hi

Usually I use A3+ format for my Ahnentafel, but this time I neede more space and decided to create it, so that it goes over 3 A3+ pages - one whole page in the middle and one half on each side.

In my mind it would be like when you print a document - it starts with the first page and then the second etc.

But Intaglio does not seem to do that :frowning: It only wants to print one page.

Now you may say that I just have to move the image to make it take the next part, but it is not that easy, because ut has to fit 100% and that is kind of difficult to achive.

Any advice ??? Pleeeeaaase…

I have spent hours and hours designing the image !

Thanks :slight_smile:


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Regards

Tom Fenn

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Hi Tom

Thanks for the link -

Unfortunately, I cannot use PDF, because the image quality gets very bad when exporting the image as PDF.

TIFF is the same.

I can use BMP and PNG format and keep the resolution.

I did save it in both these formats and opened it in Photoshop, but I only get one page printed there as well. I guess it is possible in Photoshop, but I am not an expert :wink:


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It should be fine, because afaik, you are dealing with a vector, a mathematical model and not an image file.

:slight_smile:

On 12 Oct 2011, at 17:23, Litta wrote:

Unfortunately, I cannot use PDF, because the image quality gets very bad when exporting the image as PDF.

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I hear what you say, but I have tried printing PDFs instead of Intaglio and it just does not look good.

Made an example (left PDF - right Intaglio): http://www.loslekt.com/misc/PDFtest.jpg

It becomes even more obvious when the magnification is lower. This is at 400%.


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I actually think the pdf looks better!

Perhaps you’re looking too hard? Designers get so involved in what an image looks like. From experience
most people just aren’t concerned.

Have you set the resolution in Intaglio at 600dpi+? I’ve printed off amazing looking posters in A2 with intaglio (TIFF)

On 12 Oct 2011, at 22:39, Litta wrote:

I hear what you say, but I have tried printing PDFs instead of Intaglio and it just does not look good.

Made an example (left PDF - right Intaglio): http://www.loslekt.com/misc/PDFtest.jpg

It becomes even more obvious when the magnification is lower. This is at 400%.


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I do not agree !

Here an example using the size it will be when printed: http://www.loslekt.com/misc/pdftest2.jpg

It gets hard to read!


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It gets hard to read!

Of course it looks poor, you are showing me a low resolution (compressed) jpeg! A vector is completely different. Even a 600 dpi png or tiff would be a vast improvement.

Have you tried printing from tiler or increased intaglio’s default output resolution yet?

regards,

Tom

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It gets hard to read!


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On 13 Oct 2011, 8:00 am, Tom Fenn wrote:
Of course it looks poor, you are showing me a low resolution (compressed) jpeg! A vector is completely different. Even a 600 dpi png or tiff would be a vast improvement.
Have you tried printing from tiler or increased intaglio’s default output resolution yet?

Yes, this is a jpg, but it does show the difference between the 2 formats. I did change the resolution to 600 dpi. I have not tried to print from a tiler. I use art paper and it is quite expensive, so I might have to reformat an example to fit in ordinary A3 paper.

As I said before, I did try to print the pdf and I can assure you that it is not my imagination that makes it look poorly :wink:

I would be happy to send you a part of my image in Intaglio format, if you want to look at it ‘live’. Maybe there are some setting that need to be changed ?

Thanks for trying to help - by the way !


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@ Tom: How you get 600dpi images out of Intaglio? Thought 300 is the max.

@ Litta. There are few reasons possible for this varieties; mix of CYMK+RGB colors or transparent colors that don´t translate well to PDF. At least there shouldn´t be any noticeable difference. To your printing question. What do want to receive at the end? I mean you have to glue it together no? There´s no LED/Laser printer which prints full size of sheet paper for instance. I´d overlay a page raster to the image smaller than the default printing size and move it print-by-print to the next frame (hiding it of course) and cut all sheets in the end for assembly - no?

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Hi Frank.

I may be mistaken, as it has been a long time since I set resolution (I leave it on high as default),
But I seem to remember that you have 3 options, each of which can be tweaked. Perhaps I’m
confusing it with another software?

Tom

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@ Tom: How you get 600dpi images out of Intaglio? Thought 300 is the max.

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It shouldn’t make any difference. Tiler will still do the job.
On 13 Oct 2011, at 09:10, Litta wrote:

I use art paper and it is quite expensive

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Frank

<How you get 600dpi images out of Intaglio? Thought 300 is the max.

To your printing question. What do want to receive at the end? I mean you have to glue it together no?>

600 DPI: One can manually set the high resolution to higher than 300 DPI

End result: Do not want to print with an overlap, because it is hard to cut 100% exact. So my plan was to print continously and afterwards connect the parts edge to edge using a paper tape on the backside. The picture is going to be framed profesionally afterwards and although I am aware that one will see a line where the sheets meet, I think is is better than cutting or even overlapping.

I have an idea that I can print one sheet at a time in Intaglio and use guidelines to indicate the next page. Do you see what I mean ?

I have downloaded Incubator and will try to print an exmple on A4 paper.

You mentined CMYK and RGB being a problem. How do I find out if that is the case and what should I do ? I am afraid that when it comes to color systems, I am very confused :slight_smile:


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I meant Mindcad Tiler :wink:


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Hi Frank.

I’ve just brought Intaglio. Yes it is possible to output 600dpi. You can probably go even higher too!

Just select resolution from the menu bar, then press the arrow button, which brings a hidden window
up. There you can set whatever resolution you like (unless the resolution limit is 300, and I’ve just
been shortchanged all these years?!)

I can’t believe I’m explaining this to the great Beckmann himself! :wink: hehe :smiley:
On 13 Oct 2011, at 09:20, Frank wrote:

@ Tom: How you get 600dpi images out of Intaglio? Thought 300 is the max.

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Hi Litta.

It can be very confusing! We will treat you well- with some cocoa and blankets! :slight_smile:

It looks like you have an image in the background? What is the resolution of that,
and where did it come from?

On 13 Oct 2011, at 10:24, Litta wrote:

I am afraid that when it comes to color systems, I am very confused :slight_smile:

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So my plan was to print continously and afterwards connect the parts edge to edge

That won´t work - believe me (or not) - there are so many traps on your way like non 100% even paper feed - no 100% frameless printing. If it has to be perfect I´d go for a full service provider - most Copy-Shops can print on canvas for example.

@ Tom : Resolution. Yeah - got it. But never went higher than 300 dpi - so I skipped the little triangle button.

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Fantastic !

I have imported the image into Mindcad Tiler and at least the preview looks fantastic.

I might have to take the chance of printing on my 5 USD / sheet paper…


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Did not get the last posts before I replied…

Tom: The image in the background is from this fantastic site: http://www.cgtextures.com/

Frank : I get your point and it has been in my mind…

I will let you now what happens :wink:

Thank you both for great help so far !


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Good luck with your project. Hope everything will turn out as expected.

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