Link Weirdness

My links are behaving very strangely. They are not showing up the same in different browsers. It’s the underlines that are the problem. They have been known to change appearance without me re-uploading the site. I will set the link preferences for a page, but they won’t “stick” consistently. I can’t for the life of me figure out what I’ve done wrong. Everything works, but I want the links to look consistent throughout the entire site.

http://www.roxannerenee.com

What I’m shooting for is a green, non-underlined link that turns orange and underlined when hovered. Some of the links are working properly, but many are not.

Thanks for any help with this mystery.

Doty


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Whenever I have seen problems with link styles, it has always come
down to the order in which you apply things. Try removing the links
entirely, then styling the text, then re-applying the link. I find
that if you add a link and then style the text, the styling gets
“split” across the link, and that breaks any styling that might be
applied to the link itself (through the page or item Inspector).

Walter

On Jun 5, 2008, at 1:02 PM, Doty wrote:

My links are behaving very strangely. They are not showing up the
same in different browsers. It’s the underlines that are the
problem. They have been known to change appearance without me re-
uploading the site. I will set the link preferences for a page, but
they won’t “stick” consistently. I can’t for the life of me figure
out what I’ve done wrong. Everything works, but I want the links to
look consistent throughout the entire site.

http://www.roxannerenee.com

What I’m shooting for is a green, non-underlined link that turns
orange and underlined when hovered. Some of the links are working
properly, but many are not.

Thanks for any help with this mystery.

Doty


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Walt,

I’m trying, but it doesn’t seem any better to me. It is very hard to diagnose what is happening, as “preview in browser” and the uploaded versions are different. Once I start checking different browsers the inconsistencies just multiply. In almost all cases, it is the underlining that is driving me crazy. I’ll keep fiddling, but I hope I can make some sense of this soon!

Thanks,
Doty


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The problem may come from this: the little “U” buttons in the “Links” part of the inspector pane have three possible states:

  • If the button is grey, the link is sure to be underlined.
  • If the button is white, the choice of whether the link is underlined or not is left to the browser.
  • If the button is light grey, it is sure that the link will not be underlined.

It can be difficult to distinguish between the “light grey” state and the “white” state. I think the Freeway designers could make this clearer.


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Hi Doty

td height=26><p class="style65 f-lp"><span class="style3"><span class="style23">home</span>

I am looking a snippet of code from your site that relates to the ‘home’ link

As you can see there are 2 span styles applied to this link

<span class="style3">

and

<span class="style23">

Firstly it would be helpful to you if you gave the styles that you create/freeway generates for you proper names rather than leave them as style3 etc.

Then when you use them you will be able to see in the inspector exactly what they are rather than relying on your memory to tell you that style3 means verdana 12pt - or similar.

This will also allow you to see exactly what styles are applied.

In the text inspector palette have you set the preference to Permanent Styles Only or Temporary Styles? Temporay Styles will allow you to see all styles where Permanent will only show the Permanent ones you have created.

As Walter as already said once you have these styles created make sure that your links are unstyled, then unlinked, then relink them and apply your style or in the case of your menu items it is best practice to create link styles such as

a:link
a:visited
a:hover
a:active

And apply them to your menu links.

Does this help?

David


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To add to my previous message: you need to set the “Visited” style to never underline (“U” button light grey). At present the “Visited” style is leaving underlining to the discretion of the browser, which is why you’re seeing such apparently inconsistent behaviour.

Oh, and there’s a “style 3” that is forcing all the links to be white. You need to remove this from the links if you want the actual link text to show green or orange.


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Thanks for the help guys! Dave, I highly suspect that I have a problem with styles. Every time I go in to try to understand how to do them I get confused and move on to something else. Is there a tutorial on this somewhere? I’ve looked, just last night I reviewed some of my “freeway moments” podcasts, but I still feel lost when it comes to how to apply styles.

Michael, thank you for explaining the three different states of the U button. I’ve been trying to figure that one out for a while now. Just downloaded the new FW5 manuel, but not had a chance to look.

Thanks again,
Doty


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Thanks to Michael, I’m making a lot of headway now that I understand the three different states of the U button. But that has created another problem.

The main links at the top of the page are behaving as I want them to (with the different color underline than the text color). When I apply the link style change to the page, it applies it to this as well and I don’t want that. I’ve tried locking it, and cutting and pasting after I’ve made the changes, but neither of those seem to be working.

Thanks again everyone!
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Is there a way to copy & paste styles? What I mean is, can I copy the FORMATTING of a particular piece of text without changing the text itself? I looked in the help with the terms “copy styles” and received no hits. I’ve wanted this feature for a long time. Does it exist?

Thanks,
Doty


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No, but you can rename styles and that goes a long way to making it
easier to apply them later.

If you don’t already have it open, open the Colors and Styles
palette. Click on the left-most tab to see the text styles. Whenever
you have a piece of text (or any object for that matter) selected,
all of the applied styles are highlighted in the list. If you Control-
click on a style name, you will see the option to edit that style. In
the Edit Style dialog, you will see options to rename the style,
restrict the tag it can apply to, and change every blessed thing
about it.

If you rename a style, all instances of it in your document will
magically update.

If you delete a style, you will be asked if you want to replace it
with a different style wherever it is applied.

Using these tools, you can drastically simplify your design experience.

Walter

On Jun 6, 2008, at 1:54 PM, Doty wrote:

Is there a way to copy & paste styles? What I mean is, can I copy
the FORMATTING of a particular piece of text without changing the
text itself? I looked in the help with the terms “copy styles” and
received no hits. I’ve wanted this feature for a long time. Does it
exist?

Thanks,
Doty


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I am learning a lot. I think with Michael’s help, I can get the main links on the page to do what I want.

The problem is now with the links at the bottom & top of the page. I don’t want the same style link as the rest of the page. How can I copy the style of this link & apply it to another link.

For example, on the main page http://www.roxannerenee.com , on the bottom links “email roxanne” and “terms of service” look the way I want. I go into these & create a new style, then try to apply that style to “back to top” and it just picks up the main link style of the page.

Does that make any sense?

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The only time I’ve done this is with a rollover item where I can apply each
style to each different item. My menu links are not rollovers, but I can’t
seem to copy the style and then reapply it to another menu link.

Doty

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Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 04:39:52 -0400
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Subject: Re: Link Weirdness

relink them and apply your style or in the case of your menu items it is best
practice to create link styles such as

a:link
a:visited
a:hover
a:active

And apply them to your menu links.


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