On 15 Jul 2011, at 13:15, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:
THank you Richard,
I do like that… I have tryed it before. The only time it really is a problem is with the detailed chains of the jewlery .
I will keep playing with that and other ways too.
Julie
ps So, yes Paul I have tried it and liked it.
Having seen Richard’s youtube link, it’s very different to the Extract feature in CS4, nothing like it at all. Looks good.
A word of warning though: it’s been a long time since I last saw the example image you posted. Any chance of seeing it again? The reason I’m saying that is that I seem to remember that the shot was lit quite harshly from one side, with pronounced shadows. In my experience (which is not inconsiderable; I spent twenty years photographing jewellery) if you cut out an object that has been lit from the side, it looks like rubbish on a plain background. The lighting-from-one-side suggests, subconsciously, that there should be a shadow of some sort, and it it’s missing, your brain thinks it very odd. I’d suggest that if you do end up cutting them out, that you leave some of the shadow intact if possible, or at least drop in a fake one in Photoshop afterwards. I do hope you’re charging quite a lot of money for doing it; it’s got nothing to do with web design after all …
I am charging a good bit. But, if you have any suggestion on how to do this “easier” than the quick mask, I will be open.
Julie
On Jul 17, 2011, at 8:57 AM, Paul Bradforth wrote:
On 15 Jul 2011, at 13:15, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:
THank you Richard,
I do like that… I have tryed it before. The only time it really is a problem is with the detailed chains of the jewlery .
I will keep playing with that and other ways too.
Julie
ps So, yes Paul I have tried it and liked it.
Having seen Richard’s youtube link, it’s very different to the Extract feature in CS4, nothing like it at all. Looks good.
A word of warning though: it’s been a long time since I last saw the example image you posted. Any chance of seeing it again? The reason I’m saying that is that I seem to remember that the shot was lit quite harshly from one side, with pronounced shadows. In my experience (which is not inconsiderable; I spent twenty years photographing jewellery) if you cut out an object that has been lit from the side, it looks like rubbish on a plain background. The lighting-from-one-side suggests, subconsciously, that there should be a shadow of some sort, and it it’s missing, your brain thinks it very odd. I’d suggest that if you do end up cutting them out, that you leave some of the shadow intact if possible, or at least drop in a fake one in Photoshop afterwards. I do hope you’re charging quite a lot of money for doing it; it’s got nothing to do with web design after all …
On 18 Jul 2011, at 14:42, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:
I am charging a good bit. But, if you have any suggestion on how to do this “easier” than the quick mask, I will be open.
It’s not as complex a shape as I’d remembered. I’d use the pen tool if it was me, at quite high magnification (before resizing down for the web). Another thing you could try (although it doesn’t work brilliantly on this one) is:
Openin Photoshop, duplicate the layer twice
Select the first copy (middle layer) and add a layer mask
Select the second (top) copy and run the Threshold adjustment on it, adjusting the slider until you have the cleanest black and white high-contrast image you can get.
Touch it up a bit if necessary using the brush tool and switching between white/black with the X key, until you have as clean a result as you can get. Add a tiny bit of Gaussian Blur. Select all, and copy.
Go to the middle layer and Option-click on the Layer mask so you can view it, then paste in what you copied from the top layer. Hit Apple-I to Invert.
Turn off the bottom (main, original) layer and see what you get. How well it works depends on how suitable the subject is in the first place …
Thank you for those directions. I will work on that asap
J
On Jul 18, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Paul Bradforth wrote:
On 18 Jul 2011, at 14:42, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:
I am charging a good bit. But, if you have any suggestion on how to do this “easier” than the quick mask, I will be open.
It’s not as complex a shape as I’d remembered. I’d use the pen tool if it was me, at quite high magnification (before resizing down for the web). Another thing you could try (although it doesn’t work brilliantly on this one) is:
Openin Photoshop, duplicate the layer twice
Select the first copy (middle layer) and add a layer mask
Select the second (top) copy and run the Threshold adjustment on it, adjusting the slider until you have the cleanest black and white high-contrast image you can get.
Touch it up a bit if necessary using the brush tool and switching between white/black with the X key, until you have as clean a result as you can get. Add a tiny bit of Gaussian Blur. Select all, and copy.
Go to the middle layer and Option-click on the Layer mask so you can view it, then paste in what you copied from the top layer. Hit Apple-I to Invert.
Turn off the bottom (main, original) layer and see what you get. How well it works depends on how suitable the subject is in the first place …
Thank you for those directions. I will work on that asap
J
On Jul 18, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Paul Bradforth wrote:
On 18 Jul 2011, at 14:42, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:
I am charging a good bit. But, if you have any suggestion on how
to do this “easier” than the quick mask, I will be open.
It’s not as complex a shape as I’d remembered. I’d use the pen tool
if it was me, at quite high magnification (before resizing down for
the web). Another thing you could try (although it doesn’t work
brilliantly on this one) is:
Openin Photoshop, duplicate the layer twice
Select the first copy (middle layer) and add a layer mask
Select the second (top) copy and run the Threshold adjustment on
it, adjusting the slider until you have the cleanest black and
white high-contrast image you can get.
Touch it up a bit if necessary using the brush tool and switching
between white/black with the X key, until you have as clean a
result as you can get. Add a tiny bit of Gaussian Blur. Select all,
and copy.
Go to the middle layer and Option-click on the Layer mask so you
can view it, then paste in what you copied from the top layer. Hit
Apple-I to Invert.
Turn off the bottom (main, original) layer and see what you get.
How well it works depends on how suitable the subject is in the
first place …
Thank you for those directions. I will work on that asap
J
On Jul 18, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Paul Bradforth wrote:
On 18 Jul 2011, at 14:42, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:
I am charging a good bit. But, if you have any suggestion on how to do this “easier” than the quick mask, I will be open.
It’s not as complex a shape as I’d remembered. I’d use the pen tool if it was me, at quite high magnification (before resizing down for the web). Another thing you could try (although it doesn’t work brilliantly on this one) is:
Openin Photoshop, duplicate the layer twice
Select the first copy (middle layer) and add a layer mask
Select the second (top) copy and run the Threshold adjustment on it, adjusting the slider until you have the cleanest black and white high-contrast image you can get.
Touch it up a bit if necessary using the brush tool and switching between white/black with the X key, until you have as clean a result as you can get. Add a tiny bit of Gaussian Blur. Select all, and copy.
Go to the middle layer and Option-click on the Layer mask so you can view it, then paste in what you copied from the top layer. Hit Apple-I to Invert.
Turn off the bottom (main, original) layer and see what you get. How well it works depends on how suitable the subject is in the first place …
Hi Julie,
Depending on the budget, timing and how much control you need over this it may be worth looking into outsourcing the cutouts. There are a number of services that will do this work for you relatively reasonably and within 24Hrs. For example; http://www.metrodesk.com.bd/pages/clipping-path-service
Regards,
Tim.
On Jul 18, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Tim Plumb email@hidden wrote:
Hi Julie,
Depending on the budget, timing and how much control you need over this it may be worth looking into outsourcing the cutouts. There are a number of services that will do this work for you relatively reasonably and within 24Hrs. For example; http://www.metrodesk.com.bd/pages/clipping-path-service
Regards,
Tim.
The pen tool is pretty invaluable. If I’m ever giving anyone Photoshop
lessons it’s one of the things I insist they practise - after all, it
comes in useful for Illustrator also.
Go for it Julie. Just keep playing with it, it’ll catch on and become
second nature.
Trev
On 18 Jul 2011, at 16:43, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:
Thanks tim. I will look into it.
I also want to learn this more too.
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On Jul 18, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Tim Plumb email@hidden
wrote:
Hi Julie,
Depending on the budget, timing and how much control you need over
this it may be worth looking into outsourcing the cutouts. There
are a number of services that will do this work for you relatively
reasonably and within 24Hrs. For example; http://www.metrodesk.com.bd/pages/clipping-path-service
Regards,
Tim.
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On 18 Jul 2011, at 16:43, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:
Thanks tim. I will look into it.
I also want to learn this more too.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 18, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Tim Plumb email@hidden wrote:
Hi Julie,
Depending on the budget, timing and how much control you need over this it may be worth looking into outsourcing the cutouts. There are a number of services that will do this work for you relatively reasonably and within 24Hrs. For example; http://www.metrodesk.com.bd/pages/clipping-path-service
Regards,
Tim.
On Jul 18, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Trevor Reaveley email@hidden wrote:
The pen tool is pretty invaluable. If I’m ever giving anyone Photoshop lessons it’s one of the things I insist they practise - after all, it comes in useful for Illustrator also.
Go for it Julie. Just keep playing with it, it’ll catch on and become second nature.
Trev
On 18 Jul 2011, at 16:43, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:
Thanks tim. I will look into it.
I also want to learn this more too.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 18, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Tim Plumb email@hidden wrote:
Hi Julie,
Depending on the budget, timing and how much control you need over this it may be worth looking into outsourcing the cutouts. There are a number of services that will do this work for you relatively reasonably and within 24Hrs. For example; http://www.metrodesk.com.bd/pages/clipping-path-service
Regards,
Tim.
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On 18 Jul 2011, at 16:43, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:
Thanks tim. I will look into it.
I also want to learn this more too.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 18, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Tim Plumb email@hidden wrote:
Hi Julie,
Depending on the budget, timing and how much control you need over this it may be worth looking into outsourcing the cutouts. There are a number of services that will do this work for you relatively reasonably and within 24Hrs. For example; http://www.metrodesk.com.bd/pages/clipping-path-service
Regards,
Tim.
I just got an offer from the makers of Parallels which I just upgraded a short time ago. Apparently my version will not work with Lion, but the $49 upgrade will. I didn’t see that on that long list - would not have caught it.
Frank H.
On 8 Jul 2011, 9:47 am, Paul wrote:
Hmm - interesting list. Hooray - Photoshop CS3 works
Boo - Illustrator CS3 doesn’t.
For the cost, it’s going to be worth grabbing a copy eventually to install on my MBP (hereby designated “stunt Mac”) to see what the impact would be on other software.
Lion may not be an “on the day” upgrade for me, though.
