What’s the best way to create a Log In page in FW5, so the user has to log in first, to access certain content? Is this done with PHP, and if so can this be done fairly easily?
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Easiest way is to do it on the server. Password Protected Folder.
If you have CPanel or similar you can create a password protected folder so that anything accessed within that folder will require user/pass to get in.
Once in that folder you don’t have to reuse user/pass
So your_site.com then your_site.com/protected_folder and then your content at your_site.com/protected_folder/mypage.html
Folders can be set up in FW and then protected after upload (or before if you use the exact same names)
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My current hosting company is HaveHost. I have a multi-host account, so I do have access to c-panel (I think). So can I create the sign-on screen myself… i.e. one that looks good like it’s part of a site, or does the password protected folder pop up a generic screen for access?
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Yes you have direct access with HaveHost - remember to log in to the CPanel of the particular site you want to set up the PPFolder for.
Yes a generic login box is displayed but that is what people recognise anyway so nobody will think twice whether it is pretty or not.
Login in to yoursite.com/cpanel with your username and password for that site or go in through WHM (Web Host Manager) and then select the Cpanel link in the List Accounts section.
Once you are in Cpanel you will find the settings under Security>Password Protect Directories
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If you want a fancy login screen, you will need to authenticate the
users yourself. There is a way within PHP to use the server-level
(Basic) authentication with a pretty form for login. but it’s almost
as much work as adding a database, and you start having to split your
time between cPanel and your site scripting in order to administer and
change it.
Walter
On Jan 2, 2009, at 9:46 PM, dhrose wrote:
So can I create the sign-on screen myself… i.e. one that looks
good like it’s part of a site, or does the password protected folder
pop up a generic screen for access?
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So the sites that have a Log In — user name and password — are linked to a database? In which case the database is checked for verification, and the user is passed to a new area of the site…
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— are linked to a database?
In that you enter the user/pass combo in the Password Protected Directories section and then when someone tries to access a file within tht PPD it checks the submitted user/pass combo against the ones you have set up. Not so much a database as a list of valid user/pass combinations.
Go into your Cpanel and have a play - create a folder within your FW site with an index.html page in it. Upload it.
Password protect it in Cpanel (which includes setting up user/pass combo(s) and then try accessing yoursite.com/ppd/ from your browser.
If you enter the correct user/pass combo in the dialogue box which you are presented with then you will see the index.html page that you created there.
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But if you wanted to have a list of approved or registered users, with each user creating a password and user name, it would have to be tied to a database? I guess you could send people a user name and password in an e-mail or something, but I’m thinking more of having registered users, that get special content each month if they are a member or registered. Er, that sounds like a my SQL type thing. I wonder if that could be done with Filemaker and FW?
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There is a thing called Profile Manager (http://interlogy.com/) that
will allow you to have a database where people register or you
register them and they log in, each with his/her own username and
password. The Basic version is free, and the Premium version is $199.
Naturally, the Premium version has lots more bells and whistles, but
if you just want people to be able to log in to a protected area, this
works really well. Actually, I should say if you JUST want them to do
that, because it implies that that is all you can do with Profile
Manager Basic, and that’s simply not true. There are tons of things
you can do with it.
I am using the Premium version on three different sites and the Basic
version on a couple of other sites. They are all being used for Member
Directory pages and any other password protected documents for the
organization. It takes a little time to wade through it, but once you
get it set up, it pretty much takes care of itself.
Robin Stark
On Jan 3, 2009, at 3:49 PM, dhrose wrote:
But if you wanted to have a list of approved or registered users,
with each user creating a password and user name, it would have to
be tied to a database? I guess you could send people a user name and
password in an e-mail or something, but I’m thinking more of having
registered users, that get special content each month if they are a
member or registered. Er, that sounds like a my SQL type thing. I
wonder if that could be done with Filemaker and FW?
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On 3 Jan 2009, 8:49 pm, dhrose wrote:
But if you wanted to have a list of approved or registered users, with each user creating a password and user name, it would have to be tied to a database?
If you set up a bunch of names and passwords in cpanel, then that is a kind of database, albeit a very simple one. If all you want is to restrict an area of your site so that only authenticated people may enter it, then this is the simplest way to go. If you want to do more clever things, like show the logged-in person’s name at the top of the page or show a list of users, or other nice things like that, then you really want a database and all that goes with it.
A word about Filemaker–it’s a database, but not likely to be running on your webserver and thus available for scripting unless you have paid a serious premium and found a specialized hosting provider.
Walter
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So does profile manager work well with FW? I mean could an experienced FW user, but NOT a programmer figure this out fairly easy? I’ve done a few sites in FW, but I’m not a programmer… I’d just like to be able to do something like this, but without having to do it in SQL. Thanks…
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I am not a programmer either. There is no way I could do any of this
on my own, and I searched and searched for this kind of thing that did
not require an online service, monthly/yearly fee, etc. The first time
I set this up, it took me a good 10 hours, yes. But, I was setting up
a member directory with a lot of forms, photos, etc. The second time I
did it, it took me less time, and so on.
The installation comes with a lot of templates. They are nice enough
looking, and you can use them if you want to. If you want to tie them
into the look of your site, you just take the HTML snippets and put
them into your own page. It’s not quite as cut and dried as that
sounds – or, it wasn’t for me – but it does all start to make sense
as you go through it. Walter could to it in 20 minutes, I’m sure.
I would recommend downloading the free version and jumping in. Their
forum is good/active and searching for posts from the developer is a
huge help. It’s the kind of thing that once you get it going on one
site, you can use it on other sites, too, feeling more and more
comfortable with the set-up as you go along. I made a lot of notes on
the first one, copied and pasted text that I changed in the admin area
so that I would know what I would need to change for future sites.
At one point, somebody asked me about it for another person who was
working on a site, and I told him all of this, and he told her … the
gist of which is that she emailed me a couple of months later to say
yes, it did take her a while to get it set up because she didn’t know
what she was doing, but she said it was worth every minute she spent
on it. So, if people who don’t know what they’re doing – me included
– can do it, there you go.
And, with the free version, you don’t have anything to lose but your
tie – which is extremely important, I know, but isn’t it fun to learn
new stuff!?!?
Robin Stark
On Jan 3, 2009, at 6:46 PM, dhrose wrote:
So does profile manager work well with FW? I mean could an
experienced FW user, but NOT a programmer figure this out fairly
easy? I’ve done a few sites in FW, but I’m not a programmer… I’d
just like to be able to do something like this, but without having
to do it in SQL. Thanks…
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Also have a look at Locked Area http://www.locked-area.com/
Same idea and also a FREE version available.
This will deffo do what you need
Locked Area Lite is everything you need to setup a secure member's area on your web site.
Fully automated online registration form, comprehensive administration panel and powerful user account manager tools are all included free of charge.
And the automated installation wizard enables you to have everything setup in a matter of minutes.
David
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Thanks guys… I’ll check em’ out and see if I can get them working.
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Yes we have have this script in the control panel. One of the many available to install on our hosting.
http://www.ineedwebhosting.co.uk/web-hosting-control-panel.html
On 4 Jan 2009, at 10:42, DeltaDave wrote:
Also have a look at Locked Area http://www.locked-area.com/
Same idea and also a FREE version available.
This will deffo do what you need
David Owen
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I would like to know just where in a website I have done in FW 7.0, I should put a script that makes ”private log in” possible…?
And the password, where should put in the script…?
yes, I know it is Sunday tmw, but my life is hanging on a string if I cannot deliver tmw ar noon…
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Put the pages you want to protect into a sub-folder in Freeway (use the cog menu at the bottom of the left column to create a folder, then drag the pages into it one at a time), then upload to your server. On your hosting provider’s control panel, use the “Password Protected Folders” feature to create a security realm for that subfolder, and add users to that realm. This is not something that Freeway can do for you directly, it’s something that your hosting provider will offer (well, most do) and every host’s admin system looks a little different, so you’ll have to hunt around until you find it.
Walter
On Mar 28, 2015, at 4:16 PM, Arne Gustafsson email@hidden wrote:
I would like to know just where in a website I have done in FW 7.0, I should put a script that makes ”private log in” possible…?
And the password, where should put in the script…?
yes, I know it is Sunday tmw, but my life is hanging on a string if I cannot deliver tmw ar noon…
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On 28 Mar 2015, at 21:51, Walter Lee Davis email@hidden wrote:
Put the pages you want to protect into a sub-folder in Freeway /…/ On your hosting provider’s control panel, use the "Password Protected Folders” /…/
For only one hour ago, I was ’there” and tried to do it, after chatting w. the support and the hoopla had quieted down, it became clear that the number of;
and add users to that realm.
… is FIVE….!
So, I better look f. a highly sophisticated
software that requires some kind of education…
Can you think of a freeware to do the job….?
Many great thanx f. your answer!
Cheers, Arne
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You can easily add 5 users through your cPanel
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