I am running a 350MHz PowerPC G4 with 768 MB SDRAM.
When I try to open a MDP file the system freezes. I may have to upgrade my system.
What System Profile should I target?
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Baron, to be honest, there shouldn’t really be a reason why you very
much need to upgrade your Mac, apart from the PPC architecture is no
longer supported. It may just be that your files are corrupted or
similar, because Intaglio, in theory should work on your very modest
system.
However, I upgraded to an Intel Mac, three or so years ago, from a G4
Ti 500MHz Powerbook, and It was worth every penny. I was immediately
struck with how faster the whole Mac experience became, especially
after adding more RAM.
regards,
Tom
On 28 Oct 2009, at 18:28, “Baron Whateley” email@hidden wrote:
I am running a 350MHz PowerPC G4 with 768 MB SDRAM.
When I try to open a MDP file the system freezes. I may have to
upgrade my system.
What System Profile should I target?Baron
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On Oct 28, 2009, at 4:44 PM, Tom wrote:
Baron, to be honest, there shouldn’t really be a reason why you
very much need to upgrade your Mac, apart from the PPC architecture
is no longer supported. It may just be that your files are
corrupted or similar, because Intaglio, in theory should work on
your very modest system.
In practice too: I am running a Dual 1 GHz Power PC G4 with 1MB L3
cache per processor and 2 GB DDR SDRAM (Half of which I added a year
ago on advice but, frank;y, …) under 10.4.11 and have no trouble
with Intaglio other than the very occasional quit in a haste. But
then other apps do that too and not always in quite as friendly a
manner. I don’t use Intaglio for very big drawings but I often have
twenty or thirty files open at the same time as well as their pdf
versions in order to Save A Copy As cropped pdf. All of that with a
full LaTeX installation running.
Don’t plan on changing anything
Regards
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I wouldn’t go that far! That’s a very Alain thing to say, because in
my mind, Alain, you are very conservative, but in my mind, change can
be a good thing. Getting a faster Mac was the best thing I did.
Intaglio, now, never wimps out on me, but it crawled and froze often
with both my G3 and G4 computers.
However, change may not necessarily solve your problem! 
regards,
Tom
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On Oct 28, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Tom wrote:
I wouldn’t go that far! That’s a very Alain thing to say, because
in my mind, Alain, you are very conservative,
Depends about what. I have been a card-carrying anarcho-syndicalist
for well over fifty years. But I have never had a new car.
but in my mind, change can be a good thing.
Take a look at Free Mathematics Texts
Getting a faster Mac was the best thing I did.
I am sure I would like to have one but, a big iMac plus a big screen,
we are talking more than I am willing to spend on the improvement.
Intaglio, now, never wimps out on me, but it crawled and froze
often with both my G3 and G4 computers.However, change may not necessarily solve your problem!
That was exactly my point: For what I do, which involves a lot of
LaTeX compiling, it’s not worth it: while it’s running, I just
scratch my head trying to figure out my next move and LaTeX is
usually done before I am.
Now if I were involved in stuff that involves the machine running for
a few days or even only a few hours, then I would run to the bank get
a loan to get the fastest mac I could lay my hands on plus another
one for the meantime.
So, depends too.
regards,
Tom
On 28 Oct 2009, at 22:16, Alain Schremmer
email@hidden wrote:Don’t plan on changing anything
Ah, now I understand: This was not advice, this was “I don’t plan
on changing anything”
If so, sorry about that.
Regards to all
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Success!
Transferred my MacDraw Pro files from a rather cramped 10 Gb disc to another disc with much more free space and what do you know - I can open and edit in Intaglio without any complaints. However there is one point that I am sure you are all aware of - the file size quadrupled from 68Mg to 268Mg
Thanks for staying with me now I have to learn the capabilities and limitations of Intaglio.
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Hooray!
I think you need a slightly more powerful computer too!! (10 GB hard
drive??!!) You could actually bag a bargain right now- especially in
the G4 department. You could even be really daring, and go for a
G5!! 
On 31 Oct 2009, at 02:08, Baron Whateley wrote:
Success!
Transferred my MacDraw Pro files from a rather cramped 10 Gb disc to
another disc with much more free space and what do you know - I
can open and edit in Intaglio without any complaints. However there
is one point that I am sure you are all aware of - the file size
quadrupled from 68Mg to 268MgThanks for staying with me now I have to learn the capabilities and
limitations of Intaglio.
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Success?
On Oct. 31 I reported success in opening MDP files. Now I find that opening them is a sometime thing. Like being able to open a file yesterday but not the same file today.
I have tried renaming a file and then trying to open it and I succeeded once but not any more. File size does not seem to make a difference. I can open a file with three drawings in it but if create a separate file for each drawing I can’t open any of them.
I have gone through the routine of Command S at startup to check the computer and everything seems to be in order.
Any ideas out there?
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Hi again Baron.
Have you tried repairing permissions?
It’s also worth noting that the early G4 (and G3) machines were
notoriusly unreliable. Many Apple users waited until 2nd generation
models arrived before purchasing them.
regards,
Tom
On 4 Nov 2009, at 22:07, “Baron Whateley” email@hidden wrote:
Success?
On Oct. 31 I reported success in opening MDP files. Now I find that
opening them is a sometime thing. Like being able to open a file
yesterday but not the same file today.I have tried renaming a file and then trying to open it and I
succeeded once but not any more. File size does not seem to make a
difference. I can open a file with three drawings in it but if
create a separate file for each drawing I can’t open any of them.I have gone through the routine of Command S at startup to check
the computer and everything seems to be in order.Any ideas out there?
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I have almost completed the project that I intended to use Intaglio for and it has been quite a ride - stop me if you have heard this before.
As I have previous reported I have been able to open 4 & 4 page MDP files (floor plans) but when I got into the detail drawings one or more pages Intaglio would not move and required a reboot.
I finally got results by progressively disassembling the drawing, object by object, and when I reached a point that could open them without further disassembly, I started pasting them together as Intaglio documents.
In the simplest case all I had to do was remove the title of the detail. In a more complicated case two dimensioned objects were separated and I could open one of them but not the other. In which case I removed the dimensions as an object, and I was able to open both of them. I then set about reuniting the object with it’s dimensions and reuniting the two objects with the drawing.
This process went on for some 25 out of 39 drawings. - tedious to say the least.
Any Ideas as to what went wrong? Size does not seem to be an issue, the last drawing I opened was over 500KB two pages with photographs, text and drawings and no problems.
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