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Want to have a bit of music playing through the site and keeping going without a break even when new pages are summoned. How?
Also - if this is possible, how can I cue the next bit of music to play automatically and seemlessly on completion of the first bit etc etc…

Happy new year by de way.


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Music is a very subjective thing for visitors to your site. Many people won’t appreciate it being present throughout your site without an OFF button.

There is A FW Pro action Background Sound which will loop a sound file for you but it is a Page action so would have to be applied to every page and would not be seamless from one page to another.

There are other ways including opening a link in a new window which could probably be selected as a Pop Under but it is an area where you should tread carefully - unless of course you are a musician and people are visiting specifically for your music content.

David


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Thanks Dave - such a prompt reply on such a major (hic) festive period in Scotland! Maybe you are a traditionalist and celebrate the old new year as we highlanders do e.g: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_the_clavie

I have used the background action in the past and am aware of the emotions introduced (some quite vociferous in this forum) when having to put up with olde worlde dire midi dirges and the like but many sites offend my eye as well as my ear. Music has its place to complement. Anyhows I don’t want to get too precious but this is sort of what I am after musically:-


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Another way to have music follow you around without using a popup is to have a hidden frame to hold the music player. You can still access it with javascript if you want to add a start stop button. Make a two pane frameset. Make the top pane 100% tall and the bottom leave as undefined height; this will make it disappear. Put your regular content in the top, and put your music in the bottom. This does have all of the usual problems that accrue to frames (no bookmarks or direct navigation to a single page, for example) but you can’t stop the music.

Walter


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Ooookaaayyyy - some compromises to consider. Thanks for the options chaps. I will explore the pop under route first.
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You might want to consider a pop-over player daughter window, with a big friendly stop button in the middle of it. That way those of us with nice speakers don’t have to pay the tax of music optimized for the traditional 3" PC speaker under the desk (bright and loud!).

Anyone who interacts with your site and likes the music will probably click on your page somewhere, instantly sending that daughter window behind the main window anyway. But pop-under is so over-used by spammers that it’s likely to have a negative karmic impact among those who care about that sort of behavior, which will get you marked down for Never Visit Again.

Walter


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I guess the answer so far then is:- not easily done.

NVA is not a concern and music content is irrelevant.

I’ll keep ferreting to find the answer - maybe even buy some sexy glass.


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BTW the Nichola Burns site is almost entirely done in Flash so if you want to go that route…and not be search engine friendly.

David


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Why do all the best things start with a ‘f’ ?

f lash!*?


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Fort of compromised using flideshow fudio component. Not ideal but better than a foke in the fye with the proverbial.


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Wow. That glass site is sick. I’m struggling with the whole music player thing myself. I have to admit. The frame thing that on http://www.brucejames.com/ is kind of cool and i’m thinking about it.


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On 15 Feb 2010, 10:56 pm, James Calandrella wrote:

I’m struggling with the whole music player thing myself. I have to admit. The frame thing that on http://www.brucejames.com/ is kind of cool and i’m thinking about it.

I’ve been put off by no global site music to the point my last website was flash, but I’m on another one and still looking for a work around as well. FWIW I’m no expert but that site you posted looks like flash to me, though the idea of the nav bar in the bottom of the window is interesting. What’s also very disconcerting is the loop/repeat in the audio - it’s very jumpy and stands out.


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On 15 Feb 2010, 11:25 pm, igirl wrote:

On 15 Feb 2010, 10:56 pm, James Calandrella wrote:

I’m struggling with the whole music player thing myself. I have to admit. The frame thing that on http://www.brucejames.com/ is kind of cool and i’m thinking about it.

I’ve been put off by no global site music to the point my last website was flash, but I’m on another one and still looking for a work around as well. FWIW I’m no expert but that site you posted looks like flash to me, though the idea of the nav bar in the bottom of the window is interesting. What’s also very disconcerting is the loop/repeat in the audio - it’s very jumpy and stands out.

You definitely know more than I do. I just assumed it as a frame as this site was on the example page of sites built with Freeway. It does look like some Flash to me, but in reality I know nothing about anything yet. I’m just learning. The loop thing on there is weird…20 seconds that just repeats kind of jerkily, but I thought that if you had one track of some length play that it would work nicely. I did like the design and like you said, the whole nav bar at the bottom was intriguing to me.


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BTW, your site is awesome igirl. Really slick. I love the player that only shows when you hover. Awesome. That’s similar to what I was thinking of maybe evolving into. The subject matter is quite nice as well. LOL.


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The first thing I do if I encounter music on a site that can’t be turned off (or if I can’t find a pause button immediately) is mute all sound, if I’m listening to something already then that gets upgraded to closing that browser window. End result: expect a high bounce rate on sites with global music, particularly those that don’t have an easily accessible pause/stop button.

Just my thoughts but as far as I can tell I am far from alone.

Joe

On 16 Feb 2010, at 01:08, James Calandrella wrote:

BTW, your site is awesome igirl. Really slick. I love the player that only shows when you hover. Awesome. That’s similar to what I was thinking of maybe evolving into. The subject matter is quite nice as well. LOL.


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Very far from alone!

Colin

On 16 Feb 2010, at 08:34, Joe Billings wrote:

The first thing I do if I encounter music on a site that can’t be
turned off (or if I can’t find a pause button immediately) is mute
all sound, if I’m listening to something already then that gets
upgraded to closing that browser window. End result: expect a high
bounce rate on sites with global music, particularly those that
don’t have an easily accessible pause/stop button.

Just my thoughts but as far as I can tell I am far from alone.


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Interesting. I have never found it to be disruptive. I’ll have to think more on this.


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