Nesting and Transition FX

Hi chaps - I think i have got my head a bit around nesting - I have drawn an html box and put a couple of graphics in it and an html text box - these now centre in the browser nicely when the window is stretched, however I want the text to fade up over a second or so when the page loads - the Transition effect did this perfectly before I ‘nested’ the html text box - does nestin ‘break’ the effect ? Thanks as ever Roger


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Thanks to Mr Paul Bradforth (one of the many helpful gods on this site) who answered another thread I was following solved the problem and for anyone else having this issue - (I hope I can explain this with the correct terminology) when you nest a little box in a big box use the INSERT menu - ie don’t just draw it ! So cool (sorry I don’t know why I just typed ‘cool’ it is not a word that I generally use) hey ho … Roger


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On 27 May 2008, at 13:48, Roger Burton wrote:

Thanks to Mr Paul Bradforth (one of the many helpful gods on this
site)

(sorry I don’t know why I just typed ‘cool’ it is not a word that I
generally use) hey ho … Roger

Well, me neither, but when someone calls me a helpful god online …
cool!

best wishes

Paul Bradforth

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Ahhh - I spoke too soon - not about the god thing but … So I have a big box, select it and ‘insert’ an html box, paste in some text and apply the transition effect (to fade up the text when the page loads) ‘preview’ it and it works well however if I select the big box again and insert another small box and add a graphic (as it happens an .swf) now when i preview the .swf plays but the text doesn’t fade up as it did previously. If I then delete the box with the .swf in it I’m afraid the old text still doesn’t fade-up. Sorry to be a pain Paul


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If you have Firefox there, please install FireBug and see what it
reports in the errors view. http://getfirebug.com

Walter

On May 27, 2008, at 9:01 AM, Roger Burton wrote:

Ahhh - I spoke too soon - not about the god thing but … So I have
a big box, select it and ‘insert’ an html box, paste in some text
and apply the transition effect (to fade up the text when the page
loads) ‘preview’ it and it works well however if I select the big
box again and insert another small box and add a graphic (as it
happens an .swf) now when i preview the .swf plays but the text
doesn’t fade up as it did previously. If I then delete the box with
the .swf in it I’m afraid the old text still doesn’t fade-up. Sorry
to be a pain Paul


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On 27 May 2008, at 14:01, Roger Burton wrote:

Ahhh - I spoke too soon - not about the god thing but … So I have
a big box, select it and ‘insert’ an html box, paste in some text
and apply the transition effect (to fade up the text when the page
loads) ‘preview’ it and it works well however if I select the big
box again and insert another small box and add a graphic (as it
happens an .swf) now when i preview the .swf plays but the text
doesn’t fade up as it did previously. If I then delete the box with
the .swf in it I’m afraid the old text still doesn’t fade-up. Sorry
to be a pain Paul

Hmm, must be something to do with the .swf, which is something I know
nothing of. I tried putting a little photo in the blank right side of
that little test site, and then applied the ‘Transition’ effect to
the left hand box, and it worked fine.

best wishes

Paul Bradforth

http://www.paulbradforth.com


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Hi waltd - I don’t seem to be able to get to the getfirebug site for the download … I’ll keep trying and thanks again Paul, yes I tried a couple of different nested boxes and they worked fine so I guess it is a .swf issue - I’ll keep fiddling because the nested idea is so good for the look of my particular site (and probably most others) best Roger


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Well well well - I rebuilt the page this morning and it all worked until I added transparency to the header .swf using “extended” and interestingly I was trying to build some graphic rollover buttons yesterday and they were not doing what they should do and they worked on the newly built page this morning and now are broken. Here’s the test page if you wouldn’t mind having a glance (it’s very early days and I’m really using it to learn freeway so forgive the clumsiness) Roger

http://www.rogerburton.co.uk/test/


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On 28 May 2008, at 07:07, Roger Burton wrote:

Well well well - I rebuilt the page this morning and it all worked
until I added transparency to the header .swf using “extended” and
interestingly I was trying to build some graphic rollover buttons
yesterday and they were not doing what they should do and they
worked on the newly built page this morning and now are broken.
Here’s the test page if you wouldn’t mind having a glance (it’s
very early days and I’m really using it to learn freeway so forgive
the clumsiness) Roger

I’m far from an expert in this sort of troubleshooting but I had a
look in Firefox using the Firebug extension and it reported nine
errors which are summed up by these three:

Event.observe is not a function
fwLoad is not defined
fwRestore is not defined

Oh, and nothing appeared on the site in Firefox, at all. whereas in
Safari, a rotating graphic, a headline and a link were there. Perhaps
someone here who knows more about it could comment on the errors
above …

best wishes

Paul Bradforth

http://www.paulbradforth.com


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Event.observe is not a function fwLoad is not defined fwRestore is not defined

These errors mean that the JavaScript library code was not loaded. Event.observe is defined in prototype.js, so if you ever see an error like that, it means that the Prototype stuff was not loaded at the time that the function was called.

I had a look at the code in your page, and the Prototype code is indeed missing. Look at the very top of the page code:

<script src="" type="text/javascript">
</script>

This causes a syntax error right at the start, and thus all the rest of the JavaScript fails. There’s a long-standing bug in file handling within Actions. Perhaps having a swf file on the page (which causes Freeway to load the Flash handling JavaScript) is triggering it. I have seen this before in interactions between the Favicon Action and External JavaScript Action. In that case, you can end up with a Favicon being defined as a path to your JavaScript file.

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Thanks again waltd - you are totally correct (though I didn’t understand many of the words you used explaining it) - when I deleted the Transition FX all became normal - a pity though 'cause I liked the way the body text appeared after the page had loaded. I’ll either live with it or try and find a workaround. Here’s the latest version if you wouldn’t mind having a look:

http://www.rogerburton.co.uk/fway/video.html

The nav buttons don’t seem to change colour (though the only one that I’ve got going yet is “Motion Graphics”). Early days, I hope to find some time over the weekend and I’m really enjoying discovering just how clever (and fun) Fway is.

I’ve been a bit surprised by some odd files being generated eg there were several of the flvs on the server with .1 appended, I physically removed them just to be tidy, is this something Fway does ?

I’ve also been (because I’ve been buggering about so much) deleting the contents of the Site Folder and all the files on the server and then rebuilding the site and uploading a “clean” version, is this overkill ?

Thanks again for taking the time and I hope you and all the other chaps here have good weekends.

Roger


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