I thought this feature that I’ve just found was very tasty… and
must involve a heck of a lot of work behind the scenes:
Make an HTML box
Put some text inside; a few lines will do nicely
Go to the Inspector palette’s Appearance section, open the Graphic
Effect panel, and click on the ‘drop shadow’ icon.
An HTML container with a proper drop shadow. Nice.
Now, if you haven’t already, choose to make that item have an
‘undefined height’. This is a handy thing in its own right, but it
allows it to grow in the browser if/when the text is rendered larger.
(If you need to, do this by un-hilighting the Height button in the
Inspector’s Dimensions panel. This removes any specific height value
and collapses the container down to the height of the content.)
Now preview in a browser. And increase the text size. See how the
shadow holds together, and grows as required as the container is
enlarged by the text?
That would have been a major PITA to achieve in Freeway 4! And yet it
is a casual couple of clicks here.
Not only that, but you can attach a PSD file as a div/HTML background, and Freeway converts it - to JPEG (but. I don’t see controls to select the files type conversion e.g png, gif)
On 15 Jan 2008, at 16:52, Keith Martin wrote:
An HTML container with a proper drop shadow. Nice.
David Owen
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Unrelated to above comments, but still something worth pointing out is the fact that div dimensions set in the tool palette can now be any value regardles of content. I added a comment about this in the tutorials section for Custom Scrollbar as it relates to setting a specific height for the scrolling area.
This is big improvement over previous version that would not accept a height smaller than content within the div.
Sometime around 15/1/08 (at 15:16 -0500) chuckamuck said:
div dimensions set in the tool palette can now be any value
regardles of content. I added a comment about this in the tutorials
section for Custom Scrollbar as it relates to setting a specific
height for the scrolling area.
Oh wow, this is so, so cool. And using an HTML box to contain
multiple ‘child’ objects means it is possible to make actual layouts,
not just runs of text, that scroll within their own sections.
This isn’t a technique I’d advise everything to do… but it can
sometimes be VERY useful. And it means I no longer have to use the
iFrame action to do this with multiple pages and no design-stage view
of my work.
Standards-friendly, validator-friendly, accessibility-friendly, and
search engine-friendly, too.
Things are starting to become apparent… this upgrade is rather more
important than some seem to think!
For some reason this does work when publishing for me. I better report this as a bug.
On 15 Jan 2008, at 20:16, chuckamuck wrote:
Unrelated to above comments, but still something worth pointing out is the fact that div dimensions set in the tool palette can now be any value regardles of content.
David Owen
Freeway Friendly Web hosting and Domains ::
If you expected a scrollbar to show up on a div just by making the height shorter, that does not work. You need to add some javascript to add that functionality.
If you make a div shorter than its contents, AND set its overflow to
Auto or Scroll, then you will see a scrollbar in any CSS-2 valid
browser.
Walter
On Jan 16, 2008, at 11:17 AM, chuckamuck wrote:
What exactly were you trying to do?
If you expected a scrollbar to show up on a div just by making the
height shorter, that does not work. You need to add some javascript
to add that functionality.
Why bother? You can preview in FW5 and change the size of the text in Preview. The trick here is that the Text Size buttons are not in the tool bar by default (what’s up with that?). You can add them by going to View - Customize Toolbar…
I think this new preview is pretty killer just by itself.
Walt has spotted it, (sorry I missed it) you’ve got to set the overflow from the drop down in the inspector palette.
On 16 Jan 2008, at 16:17, chuckamuck wrote:
If you expected a scrollbar to show up on a div just by making the height shorter, that does not work. You need to add some javascript to add that functionality.
David Owen
Freeway Friendly Web hosting and Domains ::
This is not just to see the overflow i.e. if someone resizes text in a browser, you can set a defined height of a div, or set the overflow then drag the div in Freeway to you desired height, a little overflow box shows there is overflow content. But the overflow content can have other child items into it. Just cannot to that in FW4. Very good.
On 16 Jan 2008, at 16:39, Joe Muscara wrote:
Why bother? You can preview in FW5 and change the size of the text in Preview. The trick here is that the Text Size buttons are not in the tool bar by default (what’s up with that?). You can add them by going to View - Customize Toolbar…
David Owen
Freeway Friendly Web hosting and Domains ::
If you make a div shorter than its contents, AND set its overflow to
Auto or Scroll, then you will see a scrollbar in any CSS-2 valid
browser.
Walter
On Jan 16, 2008, at 11:17 AM, chuckamuck wrote:
What exactly were you trying to do?
If you expected a scrollbar to show up on a div just by making the
height shorter, that does not work. You need to add some javascript
to add that functionality.
Can I ask you folks a question about the Beta 5 version? I noticed that the link styles has been touted as being expanded in 5.0 etc. So I DLd the beta to give it a try… Since I seem to have so much problem getting my “link” styling to work from page to page I was excited about this. So I fired it up, set the styles on a page, master, and tried it on individual html text. Er, same unreliable results (as FW4) in Camino, Safari, and Firefox? Sometimes the color works, the underline works, but rarely they both reflect what I’ve set??? Short of adding extended attributes, why can’t I get this to work as stated? I realize this is maybe a small thing to “big picture” issues, but I’d love for this to work so I could move on to bigger things. Maybe there is something I’m missing…
Sometime around 17/1/08 (at 11:12 -0500) dhrose said:
I fired it up, set the styles on a page, master, and tried it on
individual html text. Er, same unreliable results (as FW4) in
Camino, Safari, and Firefox? Sometimes the color works, the
underline works, but rarely they both reflect what I’ve set??? Short
of adding extended attributes
I’ve not examined this aspect of Freeway 5 so I couldn’t yet say
whether it has changed or by how much. Did you try this on a brand
new document or one that you converted from a Freeway 4 site? Could
you describe the process that you used, step by step?
Can I ask you folks a question about the Beta 5 version? I noticed that the link styles has been touted as being expanded in 5.0 etc. So I DLd the beta to give it a try… Since I seem to have so much problem getting my “link” styling to work from page to page I was excited about this. So I fired it up, set the styles on a page, master, and tried it on individual html text. Er, same unreliable results (as FW4) in Camino, Safari, and Firefox? Sometimes the color works, the underline works, but rarely they both reflect what I’ve set??? Short of adding extended attributes, why can’t I get this to work as stated? I realize this is maybe a small thing to “big picture” issues, but I’d love for this to work so I could move on to bigger things. Maybe there is something I’m missing…
Hi,
if this can be repeated from a brand new document, then so much the better. Use the feedback form on the Beta 5 page at to report this issue. http://www.softpress.com/freeway5beta.php
If it’s a bit moreelongated, keep a copy of the errant file to one side and report the issue on the form. Say there is a file that will illustrate your problem more fully, and someone will ask you for it.
In both cases, please be as exact as you can about what you are doing and what you expect to happen as opposed to what IS happening. Somone will try to repeat your problems, and will follow the steps as you have written them, so clarity is paramount.
Setting the link styles (color, underline, etc.) from the page inspector
Previewing page in browser(s)
Repeated for Master page, with no styles on “the” page
Repeated for html text blocks with no style for page or Master etc.
All variations seem to produce varied results… either no underline, no bold, etc. refresh, reapply master, force republish… same?
Weird because if you do this in Dreamweaver, i.e. no decoration, bold etc. it just works? I’m not complaining. If I have to create a style from the menu, and apply extended attributes to it, o.k. But, it would be nice if the feature just worked.
Some of you who are here via email only may not have seen that there is a new list/area for discussing the public beta of FW5. Go to http://freewaytalk.net/ check it out and sign up!
