Polygon issues

A path is any shape consisting of lines…

OK, but i wanted to give the polygon rounded curves.
In the Stroke Inspector there are only 3 alternatives:

Miter Join, Round Join, Bevel Join.

But this is obviously not the right place,
Question:
Where to make the corners rounded?

  • I can do it manually with the Bezier tool, but this will not be even & equal for all corners,

BW, Omar K N


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In version 3 the polygon tool allows you to adjust curvature at the points.


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Well,
I may be on the wrong track - and with vs. 3 - but as can
be seen here:
http://mac.abc.se/home/onesr/pic/intgl/polygon.jpg

I still cannot make it work (rounded corners in polygons).

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Intaglio 2.9.8:
To create a polygon with rounded corners, draw the shape with either the Rectangle, Polygon or Path tools and in the Stroke palette, click Round Join (the centre icon).

To increase the size (diameter) of the rounded corners, make the stroke wider.


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Well, I may be on the wrong track - and with vs. 3 - but as can be seen here: mac.abc.se/home/onesr/pic/intgl/polygon.jpg

I still cannot make it work (rounded corners in polygons).

I’ve looked at your screen capture. The first thing to mention is that you’re selecting the round stroke “join” option. This will give you rounded (instead of mitered) corners in the stroke where two path lines meet. I’d say that’s what you’re getting for the six sided polygon (although the effect is subtle on lines that thin). For the triangle you’re not getting the round join, but due to the white flecks in the corners where the stroke isn’t completely filling I’d guess this isn’t a normal path anymore so that probably explains it. If you set the polygon tool to draw a three sided polygon and use the same stroke width and join settings you should see round corners.

Since you’re using version 3 you can double click on the polygon tool icon to open the polygon tool adjustment window and move the slider labeled “Curves On Points” to get rounded corners on polygons.


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NIck,

I think there is a problem with the polygon tool and the strocke
options :

with the 3 stroke option I have the same result : only round
corners ; sometimes I could change the option, but now I cannot any more

with the polygon tool I can change the sides of the polygon, but not
the corners !

jacques

intaglio 3.0.1, mac os 10.4.11

Le 7 oct. 08 à 16:37, Nick a écrit :

Well, I may be on the wrong track - and with vs. 3 - but as can be
seen here: mac.abc.se/home/onesr/pic/intgl/polygon.jpg

I still cannot make it work (rounded corners in polygons).

I’ve looked at your screen capture. The first thing to mention is
that you’re selecting the round stroke “join” option. This will
give you rounded (instead of mitered) corners in the stroke where
two path lines meet. I’d say that’s what you’re getting for the
six sided polygon (although the effect is subtle on lines that
thin). For the triangle you’re not getting the round join, but due
to the white flecks in the corners where the stroke isn’t
completely filling I’d guess this isn’t a normal path anymore so
that probably explains it. If you set the polygon tool to draw a
three sided polygon and use the same stroke width and join settings
you should see round corners.

Since you’re using version 3 you can double click on the polygon
tool icon to open the polygon tool adjustment window and move the
slider labeled “Curves On Points” to get rounded corners on polygons.


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Hi,
Just wanted to wave the green (?!) flag and tell everyone that it is working now:
Rounded corners can be applied no problems for the triangles & other polygons with the Stroke → Join / Inspector.

(It did not want to do it yesterday, I have no idea why not ,
maybe because it was a Monday?
or is my computer?)

Than you all for the help!
BW, Omar K N


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To Jacques:

with the polygon tool I can change the sides of the polygon, but not the corners

As Nick was saying, with version 3 “you can double click on the polygon tool icon to open the polygon tool adjustment window and move the slider labeled “Curves On Points” to get rounded corners on polygons.”

Please tell us again if you have a similar issue, where something in the application works but sometimes refuses to do what is expected!

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Le 8 oct. 08 à 16:17, Nick Nallick a écrit :

On Oct 8, 2008, at 2:27 AM, Jacques Villars wrote:

I don’t find the pref’s or cache of Intaglio, so I cannot delete
them ; I have deleted the whole intaglio repertory in application
supports, but with no effect ; in one of my mac os sessions every
thing is ok, but in my ordinary session not ; I send you screen
copies of the two resultings strokes, bad ones and right ones :

(2 folders : intaglio bad and intaglio ok)

(I don’t know the e-mail adress of Omar : the bad resulting
strokes in triangles are the same as yours, comic lines and white
flecks in the corners)

There’s no specific cache. As you note, there’s a folder within
your user home folder at Home > Library > Application Support >
Intaglio. The preferences file is Home > Library > Preferences >
com.PurgatoryDesign.Intaglio.plist.

The images you sent look like a bug in the Mac OS X drawing library
called Quartz. If you’re using Intaglio version 3 on Leopard this
may be a bug in a new Quartz feature called QuartzGL that uses your
graphics card to attempt to accelerate 2D drawing. You can disable
this from the terminal while Intaglio isn’t running by entering the
following command:

defaults write com.PurgatoryDesign.Intaglio UseQuartzGL -bool NO

This change is stored in the preferences file so if you delete the
file you’ll undo the change above (or you can change NO to YES to
revert to the original setting).

If this makes a difference for you please let me know.

I have tried the command above, but with no result ! I have Panther,
not Leopard, is that command usefull ?
I tried also to delete the .plist file in the preference folder ; no
difference

here again my configuration :

iMacG5 20" MacOS X 10.4.11 Intaglio 3.0.1

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The terminal contains now :

Welcome to Darwin!
Ordinateur-Jacques:~ jacques$ defaults write
com.PurgatoryDesign.Intaglio UseQuartzGL -bool NO
Ordinateur-Jacques:~ jacques$

but when I open the .plist file (in TextEdit) and search for the
command I cannot find :

com.PurgatoryDesign.Intaglio UseQuartzGL -bool NO

What is wrong ?

jacques

Le 8 oct. 08 à 19:57, Jacques Villars a écrit :

Le 8 oct. 08 à 16:17, Nick Nallick a écrit :

On Oct 8, 2008, at 2:27 AM, Jacques Villars wrote:

I don’t find the pref’s or cache of Intaglio, so I cannot delete
them ; I have deleted the whole intaglio repertory in application
supports, but with no effect ; in one of my mac os sessions every
thing is ok, but in my ordinary session not ; I send you screen
copies of the two resultings strokes, bad ones and right ones :

(2 folders : intaglio bad and intaglio ok)

(I don’t know the e-mail adress of Omar : the bad resulting
strokes in triangles are the same as yours, comic lines and white
flecks in the corners)

There’s no specific cache. As you note, there’s a folder within
your user home folder at Home > Library > Application Support >
Intaglio. The preferences file is Home > Library > Preferences >
com.PurgatoryDesign.Intaglio.plist.

The images you sent look like a bug in the Mac OS X drawing
library called Quartz. If you’re using Intaglio version 3 on
Leopard this may be a bug in a new Quartz feature called QuartzGL
that uses your graphics card to attempt to accelerate 2D drawing.
You can disable this from the terminal while Intaglio isn’t
running by entering the following command:

defaults write com.PurgatoryDesign.Intaglio UseQuartzGL -bool NO

This change is stored in the preferences file so if you delete the
file you’ll undo the change above (or you can change NO to YES to
revert to the original setting).

If this makes a difference for you please let me know.

I have tried the command above, but with no result ! I have
Panther, not Leopard, is that command usefull ?
I tried also to delete the .plist file in the preference folder ;
no difference

here again my configuration :

iMacG5 20" MacOS X 10.4.11 Intaglio 3.0.1

jacques


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QuartzGL is only a feature of Leopard so turning it off if you’re running an earlier OS won’t make any difference.

Not that it matters at all but Mac OS X 10.4.x is Tiger not Panther. Panther is 10.3 (proceeded if I recall correctly by Jaguar, Cheetah and Puma).


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A plist (property list) file isn’t a standard text file so opening it in TextEdit isn’t always helpful. Various tools are available to read these. If you’ve installed the developer tools there’s an application called “Property List Editor” which is designed to read plists. Otherwise any XML reader can do it.


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Le 9 oct. 08 à 17:56, Nick a écrit :

Not that it matters at all but Mac OS X 10.4.x is Tiger not Panther.

of course :wink:

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but the bug is still there on my imac !

on my principal account I have the bug, on another one there is no
bug : why the difference ?

jacques

Le 9 oct. 08 à 18:01, Nick a écrit :

A plist (property list) file isn’t a standard text file so opening
it in TextEdit isn’t always helpful (…)


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Jacques, have you tried trashing both sets of preferences?

I just tried to repeat this (rounded polygon corners), but it works as
expected here

Secondly, I can’t recommend 10.5 more.
IMO, Leopard is so much better than Tiger or Panther (especially
Panther).

On 9 Oct 2008, at 20:27, Jacques Villars wrote:

why the difference ?


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Le 9 oct. 08 à 22:41, Tom Fenn a écrit :

Jacques, have you tried trashing both sets of preferences?

what are the both sets ? the two files : Home/Library/Preferences/com.PurgatoryDesign.Intaglio.plist. in my two accounts on the imac ?; I think it is your suggestion, so I just have deleted them both, and now I have again the rounded corners again :slight_smile: but I don’t understand why an altered prefs file in one account can produce a bug in another account !

thank you Tom

jacques

what are the both sets ? the two files : Home/Library/Preferences/com.PurgatoryDesign.Intaglio.plist. in my two accounts on the imac ?

Yes!

but I don’t understand why an altered prefs file in one account can produce a bug in another account !

Because creating another account is like having another computer on the same machine. If set-up preferences become corrupt on one account, they won’t mess up on another. For example my wife and children have their own set-ups- all on my wife’s computer. The kids can have a totally chaotic desktop whereas, my wife’s, can be ordered and clear of clutter. If the kids’ account messes up, it won’t effect other users on the computer.

I also use my MBP here for home stuff- such as writing this mail to you, and I also take my MBP to work with me- opening up another account. FWIW, 10.5 Leopard takes this to a new level altogether, and having ‘cover-flow’ and ‘spaces’ is a godsend! :¬) :¬) :¬) %¬)

Try it! :smiley:

On 10 Oct 2008, at 09:40, Jacques Villars wrote:

Le 9 oct. 08 à 22:41, Tom Fenn a écrit :

Jacques, have you tried trashing both sets of preferences?

what are the both sets ? the two files : Home/Library/Preferences/com.PurgatoryDesign.Intaglio.plist. in my two accounts on the imac ?; I think it is your suggestion, so I just have deleted them both, and now I have again the rounded corners again :slight_smile: but I don’t understand why an altered prefs file in one account can produce a bug in another account !

thank you Tom

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Le 11 oct. 08 à 13:53, Tom Fenn a écrit :

but I don’t understand why an altered prefs file in one account can produce a bug in another account !

Because creating another account is like having another computer on the same machine.

it is exactely what I think ! …and wrote, or not ?

my principal account is J

my experimental account is Z

on J I couldn’t have proper rounded or mitered or bevelled corners, but only strange exotic ones

on Z I had no problems

1° on J I trashed the prefs, but without success

then

2° after your suggestion, I also deleted the prefs on Z… and as a result of that it was suddenly OK on the… J account !

excuse me for my poor english language, perhaps it was not clear in my previous post :wink:

jacques

Jacques, just a guess, but I reckon things worked out because J is your admin account, and therefore would directly affect your main prefs?

Dunno? But for what I do know is that one of the questions apparently once asked, if you wanted a job with Apple was; “have you ever taken LSD?”!

I think in this case, that statement must be true! %~)

Tom

On 11 Oct 2008, at 14:10, Jacques Villars <email@hidden> wrote:

Le 11 oct. 08 à 13:53, Tom Fenn a écrit :

but I don’t understand why an altered prefs file in one account can produce a bug in another account !

Because creating another account is like having another computer on the same machine.

it is exactely what I think ! …and wrote, or not ?

my principal account is J

my experimental account is Z

on J I couldn’t have proper rounded or mitered or bevelled corners, but only strange exotic ones

on Z I had no problems

1° on J I trashed the prefs, but without success

then

2° after your suggestion, I also deleted the prefs on Z… and as a result of that it was suddenly OK on the… J account !

excuse me for my poor english language, perhaps it was not clear in my previous post :wink:

jacques


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